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Old February 25th, 2019, 01:32 AM   #261
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I'm guessing we're all heading to the Coffee Shop soon, but to reply directly:

Pro-density folks will probably like what they're hearing from Logan Bowers:

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/201...e-logan-bowers

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I thought the state recently approved taller mid-rise and highrise wood up to 18 floors.
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I thought the state recently approved taller mid-rise and highrise wood up to 18 floors.
The state, and soon all of America, has approved cross laminated timber building up to 18 stories. But from what I understand CLT is still way more expensive that stick built wood buildings. It is price and speed competitive with concrete and steel construction. But if you want to build very cheap housing, building made with conventional wood framing are still the way to go. Also worth noting that CLT, and wood construction in general, is also a carbon negative/low carbon building material, because trees take CO2 out of the atmosphere and sequester it in the form of wood, while steel and concrete production are both very CO2 intensive industries.
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Old February 26th, 2019, 09:16 AM   #263
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CLT is legal but there is zoning/land use/etc regulations in the way of the "missing middle" between single family zoning and midrise or highrise construction. Olympia just did a bunch of work on the missing middle in their city; check it out here: http://olympiawa.gov/city-government...ng-middle.aspx
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I moved the HQ2 discussion to the HQ2 thread.
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Old March 5th, 2019, 05:55 PM   #265
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I drove down Fifth Ave. on the east side of Macy’s, and there were 5 development/demolition boards up. When do Macy’s and JCPenney close?
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Old April 4th, 2019, 05:45 PM   #266
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Macy*s Northgate closing this summer, not 2020

The ST is reporting that Macy*s is closing in July, not 2020 as reported earlier.

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...mmer-not-2020/

This jibes with needing to get the NHL practice facility up and running. JCPenney is also closing this year, and Nordstrom’s and Forever 21 are being replaced with a grocery and other uses. No announcement from Nordstrom about their plans, but the preliminary site plan doesn’t include space for them.
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Northgate Nordstrom was always in a bit of a weird place. The flagship store is not too far away downtown, and Alderwood is a much larger regional mall not too far away to the North.

With the opening of the light rail line, Northgate will only be 5 stops away from the flagship store, too.
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Old April 4th, 2019, 05:55 PM   #268
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That’s why I think they’ll close. And if they want to maintain a presence anywhere near there they’d be welcomed at UVillage.
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Old April 4th, 2019, 09:16 PM   #269
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Light rail can feed customers into Downtown, but it can also feed Downtown's customer base to malls. This was a risk of Link to Northgate.

It appears the risk is avoided...until Link gets to Alderwood or Redmond Town Center, there's not much regional-scale retail. Those two spots are also pretty far rides for people in the center of town. For a system that's often along freeways, that's notable. Downtown will be stronger because of it.

This might become a discussion of whether Link shoulda added hundreds of millions in expense and minutes to every trip by taking a side trip to Southcenter...I certainly don't think that.
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Old April 4th, 2019, 11:14 PM   #270
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It’s just startling how quickly retail is contracting.
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It’s just startling how quickly retail is contracting.
I'm surprised it's not contracting quicker. I haven't shopped in a *real* store in years.
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Old April 8th, 2019, 05:22 PM   #272
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From todays DJC.

https://www.djc.com/news/ae/12120634.html

April 8, 2019

Two hotels take shape for next Northgate design review

By BRIAN MILLER
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The massive Northgate renovation plan continues to grind through the permitting process.

Owner Simon Property Group has filed demolition plans for Macy's, which will close this July. JCPenney previously announced it will close and not return. Nordstrom is still undecided about its future at the 69-year-old mall, where light rail service will begin in 2021.

New to the team is DLR Group, now apparently designing the west hotel, which is closest to the freeway and north of an existing structured parking garage (which is itself north of the future light rail station).

The second east hotel isn't as far along in design development. That seven-story building will have 175 rooms, retail and a rooftop bar. It will be a few steps northwest from the NHL facility (projected to open in 2021 or earlier). GGLO says of the hotel that it “envisions heavy pedestrian activity back and forth with the NHL practice facility.”





The west hotel will be seven stories with 155 extended-stay rooms.





The east hotel will be seven stories with 175 rooms, retail and a rooftop bar.
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Old April 8th, 2019, 06:58 PM   #273
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The current plans show the portion of the mall to the north of Nordstrom and Macy’s pretty much intact, as well as the food court. It seems like these hold over elements will be a wrench in the plans of the overall development.
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New Northgate Mall redevelopment photos? New photos!

https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/...mall-will.html
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Old April 14th, 2019, 06:03 PM   #275
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Looks like some mass timber will be going into the ice rink structures. Those could be really cool!
I know there are some people who are disappointed that the Northgate rebirth will be home to a relatively low-intensity use like skating rinks but, personally, I think putting what is sure to be a community and tourist draw so close to light rail and other amenities/services/transportation options will serve the area very well. Yes, we miss out on probably 500+ residential units but I'd rather have this than a practice facility somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
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It would be nice to have a lot more density on the rest of the site as well as nearby. On the bright side, the ST TOD is going for at least stubby highrises. Along with everything else, there will be SOME density over a fairly large district.

The mix of uses shows some promise. Offices, hotels, quite a bit of retail, housing, the hockey rinks...each will bring a different cross-section of activity. It'll have some 18x7 activity.
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Old April 14th, 2019, 09:26 PM   #277
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Looks like some mass timber will be going into the ice rink structures. Those could be really cool!
I know there are some people who are disappointed that the Northgate rebirth will be home to a relatively low-intensity use like skating rinks but, personally, I think putting what is sure to be a community and tourist draw so close to light rail and other amenities/services/transportation options will serve the area very well. Yes, we miss out on probably 500+ residential units but I'd rather have this than a practice facility somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
NHL practices definitely draw a decent crowd (Esp in the playoffs and during training camp and such). Vegas was standing room only during their Stanley Cup Run last season. Would be a good consistent flow of people to the area.

Which also leads to another possibility that's come up in the last few weeks:

There were 2 top flight women's professional hockey leagues in North America (Canadian Women's Hockey League CWHL, and the National Women's Hockey League NWHL). There had been talk of mergers for the last little while, but that changed when the CWHL abruptly folded last week. The NWHL then announced they were planning on adding teams in 2 former CWHL cities (Montreal and Toronto). So the merger sortof happened by default, and it seems the women's hockey world is charging forward with just the NWHL. With that settled, there's lots of discussion about if/where to expand the league, and Seattle has definitely been getting a mention. Most of the teams in the league have the arrangement of playing in the practice facilities of the local NHL teams, and the new Seattle NHL facility certainly meets the bill. Since the league is pretty low budget, travel costs are a concern. So a Seattle franchise would require other teams clustered in the area to also come into the league at the same time (So Vancouver, LA, Calgary, etc). But the possibility of 20 games at the facility with ~1000 fans each time would be a boon to the area.

And even on top of that:

The UW club hockey team currently plays well off campus at Olympicview Ice Arena in Mountlake Terrace. They draw a decent crowd (Maybe ~200 ppl/game), but its tough getting more with students having to drive 20 minutes out of town to get to games. Having a facility a 10 minute light rail ride away from campus would be a boon to their attendance, and playing in an NHL quality facility would also be a boon to recruiting players as well. They have definitely been exploring the possibility.
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All I can say is if you are not a particular fan of hockey it sure is worth the time to go see a game to see what makes it fun to watch. When I was growing up Howie Young of the Red Wings lived on the next street and he would play street hockey us. Lots of fun, but when I turned 21 would go to games after work, so much fun. It is loud, rowdy and a great way to let go of the days stress. The biggest rivalry at that time was between the Wings and the Canadians. Whenever the Canadians or Maple Leafs played they had a lot of fans show up since they were only a bridge crossing away. Fun times.
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Old June 24th, 2019, 05:25 PM   #279
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From todays DJC.

https://www.djc.com/news/re/12122881.html

June 24, 2019

Wallace Properties opens Prism apartments in Northgate

By BRIAN MILLER
Real Estate Editor

Wallace Properties last week announced the recent opening of its new 138-unit Prism, at 10711 Eighth Ave. N.E., one block east of Northgate Mall.

Wallace says that Prism is already 40% leased. Units run from studios to two-bedrooms. Twenty percent are affordable to those making 65% to 85% of area median income. Rents begin at around $1,235 for a studio, and run up to around $2,570 for a two-bedroom with 977 square feet. Amenities include a roof deck, business center, community lounge with kitchen, and a bicycle storage room.

Prism is the third of a cluster of new Wallace apartments, also including the Enclave and Park, which total 712 units and 79,000 square feet of retail/commercial space. (Tenants in the latter include 24 Hour Fitness and Total Wine.) All are a short walk to Northgate Station, where light-rail service will begin in 2021.

Meanwhile, Wallace is preparing a third apartment project near Green Lake on the last portion of the old Vitamilk property (which still belongs longtime family owners). That seven-story building, designed by CollinsWoerman, could have 155 units. Now called Green Lake North, it'll be at 420 N.E. 72nd St.




The seven-story building has 138 units. Wallace has now created 712 apartments in three new buildings near Northgate Mall.
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Those rents are significantly cheaper than new projects downtown/CH/FH. With link access to those neighborhoods I can see how Northgate will be a more desirable area when the mall area is redeveloped.
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