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Old May 10th, 2019, 07:15 AM   #14341
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Yes, i'm aware of that, and I do call out the BS on this thread now and then.

But what would you say if 6E eventually ended up serving maybe four-five Chinese cities from CCU using A321LRs? Wouldn't it effectively make CCU an Eastern Gateway for 6E? At-least for Chinese flights??

I want to re-iterate that this post is not about the "potential of CCU". It is an observation based on the aggressive ambitions of an airline that commands 40% of all departures from this airport. They're looking to heavily expand their regional-international foot-print, and China cannot be ruled out. The himalayas prevent them from using DEL as a transit hub for Chinese connections, so CCU makes sense.
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Old May 10th, 2019, 07:59 AM   #14342
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You are mistaken. IndiGo does not yet fly to London.

They do, however fly to Istanbul and offer one-stop, same PNR itineraries to IST from its entire Indian network via DEL. Since it is code sharing with Turkish Airlines (TK), Turkish's IST-BOM/DEL is also being sold by IndiGo, and I saw transit pax at BOM flying in from IST on TK and carrying onward to LKO on 6E.
Can Indigo planes fly this much long distance to London or passengers will be carried from Istanbul to London by Turkish? But Turkish is FSC, how will they be compatible with Indigo in terms of seat configuration?

On another note, Indigo can think of Kolkata-Istanbul route to catch budget passengers travelling to London and other places in Europe.
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Old May 10th, 2019, 09:07 AM   #14343
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Can Indigo planes fly this much long distance to London or passengers will be carried from Istanbul to London by Turkish? But Turkish is FSC, how will they be compatible with Indigo in terms of seat configuration?

On another note, Indigo can think of Kolkata-Istanbul route to catch budget passengers travelling to London and other places in Europe.

By definition, An A321NEOLR(the ones that Indigo is getting) is 6700 km, while the plane's range is 7400 km at full payload.

It should, but it is very risky to even try with such an aircraft simply because should there be any weather issue, or need to divert, they will be walking a thin line in regards to fuel.

Istanbul, Warsaw, Cairo, Tel Aviv, Almaty, Rome are viable options. London isn't.

All being said, Indigo is already in the process of making an order by the end of this year, for either the A321XLR or the A330NEO. They are the only airline managing to navigate through this non conducive market, so let's hope for the best.
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Old May 10th, 2019, 11:28 AM   #14344
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Can Indigo planes fly this much long distance to London
No. IndiGo didn't intend to fly non-stop revenue flights.
But there were news reports that IndiGo was planning to offer flights to the UK on the A321LR aircraft with a "technical halt" somewhere along the way. Istanbul was on of the contenders at that time. Now that Turkish and IndiGo are working together, it can be assumed that the 'tech-halt (essentially a stop for re-fuelling) will be at IST itself.
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or passengers will be carried from Istanbul to London by Turkish? But Turkish is FSC, how will they be compatible with Indigo in terms of seat configuration?
Currently it is possible to book DEL-LHR via IST. Both, on 6E as well as on TK itself. The differentiation will be in the fares. Flying 6E to IST and then on TK to LHR (or any destination on the TK network that is code shared with 6E, will be considerably cheaper than booking the entire itinerary from DEL on TK.
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On another note, Indigo can think of Kolkata-Istanbul route to catch budget passengers travelling to London and other places in Europe.
The Turkey-India Bilateral Air Services Agreement (BASA) only allows for 14 weekly frequencies each between the two countries. Turkish flies daily to BOM and DEL and has exhausted the quota from the Turkish side, while IndiGo plans to deploy its second daily frequency also on DEL-IST, which will result in the exhaustion of quota from the Indian side as well.

For IndiGo to think of adding any more routes to IST, the BASA will have to be reviewed first. But there are some Diplomatic-level issues with that.
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Old May 11th, 2019, 01:03 PM   #14345
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For IndiGo to think of adding any more routes to IST, the BASA will have to be reviewed first. But there are some Diplomatic-level issues with that.
Very true.

Turkey and China are probably the last 2 nations on the BASA expansion priority list at MoCA.

Turkey is seen as a hostile power that often takes anti-India stances at international forums and diplomatic circles. Won't be easy to get GoI to open up the markets to them, especially with a bully like Erdogan in power.
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Old May 13th, 2019, 09:35 AM   #14346
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Very true.

Turkey and China are probably the last 2 nations on the BASA expansion priority list at MoCA.

Turkey is seen as a hostile power that often takes anti-India stances at international forums and diplomatic circles. Won't be easy to get GoI to open up the markets to them, especially with a bully like Erdogan in power.
True, Turkey has frequently taken pro-Pakistan stance in recent times. They should have kept their commercial interest first rather than political. This is the problem with dictators, they understand politics but they have poor knowledge of economics. More flights to Turkey would have boosted tourism revenue also for them.
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Old May 13th, 2019, 01:08 PM   #14347
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Air Asia to commence flights between Kolkata & Chennai from 1st June.
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Old May 13th, 2019, 10:35 PM   #14348
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True, Turkey has frequently taken pro-Pakistan stance in recent times. They should have kept their commercial interest first rather than political. This is the problem with dictators, they understand politics but they have poor knowledge of economics. More flights to Turkey would have boosted tourism revenue also for them.
Ergodan is having wet dreams of being the Caliph of an Islamic Caliphate, he would always be pro Pakistan.

However, the distance from CCU to IST is around 3,600 miles which is exactly the range of a A321. Since they are so close, it'd be hard for 6E to operate a CCU-IST flight. It "may" work from an economic perspective because it'd be a all economy flight but it's a bit of a stretch. CCU's best bet is to have a couple of flights to China and if the airlines try to get a little adventurous, maybe one to Vietnam. I doubt CCU has enough O&D traffic to Vietnam but since there are no flights between India and Vietnam, they might be able to get connecting traffic.
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Old May 15th, 2019, 01:37 PM   #14349
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Ergodan is having wet dreams of being the Caliph of an Islamic Caliphate, he would always be pro Pakistan.

However, the distance from CCU to IST is around 3,600 miles which is exactly the range of a A321. Since they are so close, it'd be hard for 6E to operate a CCU-IST flight. It "may" work from an economic perspective because it'd be a all economy flight but it's a bit of a stretch. CCU's best bet is to have a couple of flights to China and if the airlines try to get a little adventurous, maybe one to Vietnam. I doubt CCU has enough O&D traffic to Vietnam but since there are no flights between India and Vietnam, they might be able to get connecting traffic.
He is dreaming about Ottoman Turk empire which is long gone. Even China dropped Pakistan's hand regarding designation of Masood Azhar as global terrorist, as it saw India as a bigger market for its goods.

Indigo can think of Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing. For Vietnam, CCU is ideally situated. It requires political will nothing else. There is too much lobbying for DEL and BOM which are overburdened with illogical routes. Its time to segregate the traffic according to geographical locations.
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Old May 15th, 2019, 05:04 PM   #14350
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He is dreaming about Ottoman Turk empire which is long gone. Even China dropped Pakistan's hand regarding designation of Masood Azhar as global terrorist, as it saw India as a bigger market for its goods.

Indigo can think of Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing. For Vietnam, CCU is ideally situated. It requires political will nothing else. There is too much lobbying for DEL and BOM which are overburdened with illogical routes. Its time to segregate the traffic according to geographical locations.
Unfortunately the major share of India's premium traffic is from DEL and BOM... followed by BLR after a huge gap!!
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Old May 16th, 2019, 04:34 AM   #14351
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Effective July 20, IndiGo will operate daily non-stop flights on Shillong-Kolkata and Raipur-Kolkata route with its ATR aircraft

Here is a list of "new flights".

6E 6318 Kolkata Gorakhpur 14:40 16:00 A320 30-Apr-19 1st Frequency
6E 7988 Kolkata Prayagraj 6:45 9:25 ATR 28-Jun-19 1st Frequency
6E 7234 Kolkata Jabalpur 16:45 19:05 ATR 28-Jun-19 1st Frequency
6E 7268 Kolkata Raipur 9:15 11:10 ATR 20-Jul-19 3rd Frequency
6E 7987 Kolkata Raipur 19:00 20:55 ATR 20-Jul-19 4th Frequency
6E 7986 Kolkata Shillong 14:45 16:25 ATR 20-Jul-19 1st Frequency

6E 7993 Prayagraj Kolkata 14:10 16:10 ATR 28-Jun-19 1st Frequency
6E 7235 Jabalpur Kolkata 19:50 22:10 ATR 28-Jun-19 1st Frequency
6E 7986 Raipur Kolkata 12:00 14:25 ATR 20-Jul-19 3rd Frequency
6E 7986 Raipur Kolkata 12:00 14:15 ATR 20-Jul-19 3rd Frequency
6E 7265 Raipur Kolkata 21:15 23:15 ATR 20-Jul-19 4th Frequency
6E 7987 Shillong Kolkata 16:45 18:30 ATR 20-Jul-19 1st Frequency
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Old May 16th, 2019, 06:14 AM   #14352
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IndiGo Airlines is set to launch three new flights from Kolkata from July 20. This includes a flight to Meghalaya’s capital Shillong under the regional connectivity scheme. Of the three new flights that will be operated with ATR aircraft, two will connect Kolkata with Raipur— one in the afternoon and the other in the evening. The first flight will depart Raipur at 12 noon and reach Kolkata at 2.25pm. The second flight will depart Raipur at 9.15pm and reach Kolkata at 11.15pm. There is, however, only one return flight connecting Kolkata with Raipur, which will depart at 7pm daily to reach Raipur at 8.55pm.


The third flight will connect Kolkata with Shillong. It will take off from Kolkata at 2.45pm and reach Shillong at 4.25pm. The return flight will take off at 4.45pm and reach Kolkata at 6.30pm. The flight will reduce travel time to Shillong by at least 2 hours. At present, one has to take an hour and 20 minutes flight to Guwahati from Kolkata and then travel for three hours by road to reach Shillong. The airport is around 30 km from the capital.

IndiGo chief commercial officer William Boulter said, “We are strengthening our network from Kolkata with six new flights, including a new RCS route. Kolkata-Shillong-Kolkata, our next RCS route, will significantly increase connectivity and tourist traffic in the northeast region. Shillong will be the 54th domestic destination in our network. With this expansion, we hope to create more affordable, point-to-point connectivity for our passengers.”
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Old May 16th, 2019, 01:59 PM   #14353
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Effective July 20, IndiGo will operate daily non-stop flights on Shillong-Kolkata and Raipur-Kolkata route with its ATR aircraft

Here is a list of "new flights".

6E 6318 Kolkata Gorakhpur 14:40 16:00 A320 30-Apr-19 1st Frequency
6E 7988 Kolkata Prayagraj 6:45 9:25 ATR 28-Jun-19 1st Frequency
6E 7234 Kolkata Jabalpur 16:45 19:05 ATR 28-Jun-19 1st Frequency
6E 7268 Kolkata Raipur 9:15 11:10 ATR 20-Jul-19 3rd Frequency
6E 7987 Kolkata Raipur 19:00 20:55 ATR 20-Jul-19 4th Frequency
6E 7986 Kolkata Shillong 14:45 16:25 ATR 20-Jul-19 1st Frequency

6E 7993 Prayagraj Kolkata 14:10 16:10 ATR 28-Jun-19 1st Frequency
6E 7235 Jabalpur Kolkata 19:50 22:10 ATR 28-Jun-19 1st Frequency
6E 7986 Raipur Kolkata 12:00 14:25 ATR 20-Jul-19 3rd Frequency
6E 7986 Raipur Kolkata 12:00 14:15 ATR 20-Jul-19 3rd Frequency
6E 7265 Raipur Kolkata 21:15 23:15 ATR 20-Jul-19 4th Frequency
6E 7987 Shillong Kolkata 16:45 18:30 ATR 20-Jul-19 1st Frequency
Does Raipur have so much passengers flying from Kolkata?
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Old May 18th, 2019, 11:23 AM   #14354
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Kolkata Shillong was long needed. I used to miss flights a lot of times due to bad roads and truck/lorry traffic on the Guwahati - Shillong highway. this sector has a lot of potential to grow. Plus it will also reduce the load of Guwahati Airport which is saturated in its present capacity.
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Old May 21st, 2019, 12:23 PM   #14355
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Air India To Operate Domestic Boeing 747 Flights

The Queen of the Skies will soon be flying additional routes in India. In the wake of the collapse of Jet Airways, Air India sees an opportunity to increase capacity on key domestic routes ahead of rivals. For this, Air India will be putting Boeing 747 aircraft into regular use. Starting from June 1st, Air India will deploy Boeing 747s to Kolkata and Mumbai from Delhi.

Routes Online reports that Air India’s 747s will fly from Delhi to Kolkata and Mumbai starting on June 1st. Both routes will see once daily operation of 747-400s. Currently, the 747-400 is scheduled on these routes until July 1st.

https://simpleflying.com/air-india-d...c-747-flights/
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Air India schedules Boeing 747 domestic routes from Delhi in June 2019

Air India in recent schedule update once again scheduled Boeing 747-400 service on domestic routes, to/from Delhi.

From 01JUN19 to 01JUL19, 747-400 to operate following routes on daily basis.

Delhi – Kolkata 01JUN19 – 01JUL19 AI020/701

Source: Airlineroute.net
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Old May 21st, 2019, 01:42 PM   #14357
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Air India schedules Boeing 747 domestic routes from Delhi in June 2019

Air India in recent schedule update once again scheduled Boeing 747-400 service on domestic routes, to/from Delhi.

From 01JUN19 to 01JUL19, 747-400 to operate following routes on daily basis.

Delhi – Kolkata 01JUN19 – 01JUL19 AI020/701

Source: Airlineroute.net
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Old May 21st, 2019, 02:36 PM   #14358
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State government is considering kalyani(nadia) for setting up an airport


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https://www.sangbadpratidin.in/benga...-up-a-airport/
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Old May 21st, 2019, 03:15 PM   #14359
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State government is considering kalyani(nadia) for setting up an airport





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https://www.sangbadpratidin.in/benga...-up-a-airport/
As far as I know Navi Mumbai airport has nothing to do with the new airport that may come up around Kolkata. There is no competition between the two. The former has already made some tangible progress whereas the latter is still a distant possibility.
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State government is considering kalyani(nadia) for setting up an airport


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How can an airport over 1500 acres be the second largest in the country? Bangalore is over 4000 acres. Delhi is 5000 acres.
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