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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:05 PM   #201
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Im curious how that works with the E34 in Antwerpen. Is it routed over the R1 and the Kennedytunnel, or through the city center?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:17 PM   #202
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I don't know. I guess that you can see it on the signs. If the R1 and E34 overlapse than you will see both numbers on the signs. I think they overlapse.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:33 PM   #203
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what does that black 1 in the yellow field left above the overhead-sign mean?




no number at all here near the Kennedytunnel

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I believe that "1" (there was also a "2") were meant to sign the 2 different ways around Antwerp during the grand roadworks on the R1. (via Kennedy and Liefkenshoek tunnels).
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Old August 1st, 2008, 01:39 PM   #205
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no number at all here near the Kennedytunnel
Well instead of the number it says: "Ring Antwerpen" So you are on the ring R1. I suppose the numbers will be on the milestones.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 02:19 PM   #206
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I believe that "1" (there was also a "2") were meant to sign the 2 different ways around Antwerp during the grand roadworks on the R1. (via Kennedy and Liefkenshoek tunnels).

Not only during the roadworks, but they are definitive routings now on the Ring of Antwerpen. 1 is clockwise and 2 is anti-clockwise (those numbers are also used in traffic information). I have seen signs in which theses numbers are ingerated (near Beveren at the junction with the A11).
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Old August 1st, 2008, 06:07 PM   #207
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This sign:

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Old August 1st, 2008, 06:07 PM   #208
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That's a lot of information.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 07:40 PM   #209
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Then this would be the best solution in my opinion for that spot:

could you live with that?
Now I'm home and I can see your picture. I agree that it's much better than the original one! Well done!
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Old August 1st, 2008, 07:50 PM   #210
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so then ViaMichelin is wrong aswell?
It seems to me that this map is correct. Your green arrow is the place where the photo is taken. It's on the R0 and the intersection ahead is with the E40.
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This sign:

This sign makes me think of Polish signs indicating road works
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I believe there is a European rule that states that the original name has to be mentioned between brackets for foreign destinations.
That's a Belgian rule, not a European one. Eg, in the Netherlands we sign Liège, not Luik.
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german mess:


Liège, but Brüssel with Umlaut.

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That's a Belgian rule, not a European one. Eg, in the Netherlands we sign Liège, not Luik.
That's what we should under our own rules, not what we actually do ...

As to the Germans signposting Brüssel and Liège, they probably follow that route because there is no clear endonym for Brussels and it wouldn't make too much sense to signpost Bruxelles-Brussel (Brüssel). I once even read an EU document stating that member states could generally just refer to the town in exonym.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 05:44 PM   #215
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That's a lot of information.
Which is why they've placed it like 500 meter before the actual junction.
The information on where to go to the right and later on to the left is repeated further on.

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Weird speed limit:
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And a pretty bad street as well it seems. Where the road paid by the federal government ends and the regional government has to pay, it shows.

I guess it's just a very old sign that never got replaced.

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Old August 8th, 2008, 11:38 PM   #218
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Today I went through Belgium and I took some photos:

Ring Antwerpen was terribly jammed
here in Kennedy Tunnel:



Interchange E34/E313: they are able to sign german towns in two languages but they aren't able to sign their own big towns in 2 languages that's so sad



weather became worse, very bad to take pictures...

E42 Verviers


the terrible curve
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Old August 9th, 2008, 09:17 AM   #219
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Kewl highways in Belgium. I saw many signboards leading into other countries namely France and Netherlands, something you almost can't see on Asian highways.
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Old August 9th, 2008, 11:39 AM   #220
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Most European highways are great
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