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Old December 7th, 2009, 08:53 PM   #41
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that goes for kenya too. the african population is growing too fast too quick. some population control is needed.

Actually, Kenyas birth rates have gone down. Though I will be OK when most families have a max. of 2 or 3 kids.
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Old December 8th, 2009, 01:22 PM   #42
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i have none at this moments but i am warming now before i start manufacturing spree and only rest when i achieved one complete football team
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Old December 8th, 2009, 01:31 PM   #43
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that goes for kenya too. the african population is growing too fast too quick. some population control is needed.
lets see the bigger picture what can we do if we control our population and they is negative economic growth can we start culling those who are alive IMAO this issue is not easy as the way we think, economic boom with low population growth is counter productive either, getting the right mix and balance will be the best always
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Old December 8th, 2009, 10:47 PM   #44
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Population

Contrary to popular belief having a low population growth is actually detrimental to the long term growth of an economy.

Populations from markets and labour as well as ideas.

The push for low populations is actually a Malthusian idea based on Marxist thinking of control.

I think the right number for Africa is about 4-6 children as we are very underpopulated just see the vast amount of land that is underutilized.
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Old December 8th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #45
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This was exactly my point, but we have to stop popping 5-6 baby's/family or this growth won't help much.
Couldnīt agree more...tell that to the Nigerian fellowmen who still think their country is under-populated, 160 million isnīt enough! LOL
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Old January 9th, 2015, 04:43 PM   #46
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This post is not several years old. Several things have happened.
1. Kenya has also found oil.
2. Uganda is yet to start producing their own oil which basically means they may both start at round the same time.
3. The Ethiopians have continued their steadfast growth though not yet overtaken Kenya as predicted.
4. The Kenya - Ethiopia highway is yet to be completed. So no major benefits for Kenya.
5. South Sudan gained independence bringing with it a windfall for Uganda and Kenya.
6. Tanzania has awaken from the slumber and are giving Kenya a run for their money in port efficiency.
7. Djibouti seems able and ready to pull the carpet off the legs of Kenya and Tanzania ports by grabbing both the Ethiopian and South Sudanese port business.
8. Kenya's growth is being slowed down by terrorism which has totally affected the tourism market.
8. The East African coast is awash with discoveries of Natural gas and minerals.
9. Dar Es Salaam is growing so fast and is capable of overtaking Nairobi within a year population wise. However GDP wise, its will have to take longer.
10. Finally the EAC is yet to be integrated with Tanzania seemingly developing cold feet and hence the coalition of the willing.

All this factors can change the face of EA greatly. What we need to discuss is how to fasten the process.

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Old January 10th, 2015, 05:44 AM   #47
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Ethiopians over took Kenya like 2 years ago
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Old January 10th, 2015, 05:56 AM   #48
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Uganda is the biggest or one of the biggest economic partners of Kenya.

Both countries will feel a giant impact when one them slows down economically.
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Old February 13th, 2015, 07:53 PM   #49
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Ethiopians over took Kenya like 2 years ago
They rebased, overtok us, we rebased and went back to the pole position
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Old February 14th, 2015, 03:20 AM   #50
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kenya will still be the hub and largest economy in east africa for a long long time to come...more so in per capita.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 07:01 AM   #51
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In my opinion, despite Kenya being stagnated by the former President Moi for 24 years due to bad management and corruption, it still managed to remain the biggest economy in the east and central African region. Now with a more robust economy and a much more collective effort on the part of its leaders to try and right the wrongs of the former regime, i think they are still too far ahead of their neighbours to lose their number one status as of yet. However, as pointed out already in this forum, the other countries in the region are growing fast as well and with the threat of terrorism affecting Kenya adversely, i think that together with the rampant corruption that is still very much prevalent, will prove decisive in the long run.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 11:09 AM   #52
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Uganda's emergence as the major regional hub would be contingent on the recovery of the DRC and South Sudan including laying of extensive infrastructure in both countries.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 04:55 PM   #53
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Even after the 2007-2008 PEV Kenya still managed to stay ahead of the pack; there's no way Uganda is ever catching up..Both countrys' economies are growing at the same rate(6-7%) so its hard to see how they're ever gonna overtake Kenya
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Old August 3rd, 2015, 10:44 AM   #54
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Right now, est 2015 figures stand at
KENYA-$69.997bn (just overtook N.sudan at 64.495)
ETHIOPIA-$55.522bn (should overtake Kenya in around 6 yrs)
TANZANIA- $40.244bn (Though i think it should now be at around 49bn since figures haven't been changed from 2013)
UGANDA-26.92bn

So from the above, Kenyan's nominal GDP is more than twice that of Uganda, and a third larger than Tanzania's. This means for the fore-see-able future, Kenya will still be E.A's major economic hub. Ethiopia and not Uganda is the country that is more likely to dethrone Kenya.

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Rank Country GDP est.
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1 Nigeria 657.218
2 South Africa 352.528
3 Egypt 324.267
4 Algeria 227.802
5 Angola 131.407
6 Morocco 112.552
7 Kenya 69.977 Revised to $53.40 billion(2013)[8]
8 Sudan 64.495
9 Libya 63.043
10 Ethiopia 55.522
11 Tunisia 50.026
12 Tanzania 40.244 Revised to $41.33 billion[9]
13 Ghana 35.475
14 Ivory Coast 33.963
15 DR Congo 32.665
16 Cameroon 32.163
17 Uganda 26.92 Revised to $24.69 billion[10][11]
18 Zambia 25.611
19 Gabon 20.675
20 Mozambique 16.590
But all in all, continued Recent gains in Tanzania and Uganda will with time bring them at par with if not better than Kenya which is what East Africa needs, competition.
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Old August 3rd, 2015, 11:05 PM   #55
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what are your sources for this figures afro circus?
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Wikipedia. Before anyone starts despising this source, pretty much all sources are compiled by men, none by machine hence all may be inaccurate
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Old August 5th, 2015, 12:39 PM   #57
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Wikipedia. Before anyone starts despising this source, pretty much all sources are compiled by men, none by machine hence all may be inaccurate
But Wikipedia is just too open..Can't quote it even in research assignments. The WB countries data IMO is more credible. They updated their data from 2013 to 2014 and you can get all relevant info from the website. Your data, in essence wikipedia's, looks suspect especially on tanzania
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Old August 5th, 2015, 12:47 PM   #58
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World Bank 2014 GDP data is the most reliable. Kenya is still well behind Sudan.
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Old August 11th, 2015, 10:17 PM   #59
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IDK about this post, hell we dont even have roads or functional internet in most of Kampala and all i see are sub standard arcades that locals cant even afford springing up also the fact that Kenya is attracting major global corporations due to a fairly decent system means that Nairobi will remain the leader in the Sub Saharan region.
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Old October 2nd, 2015, 01:11 AM   #60
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Instead of having a debate on who has the longer shoe, why not have a debate on how both my Kenya and your Uganda can forge closer economic ties, open up more opportunities for both countries, and work harder together to catch up with the China's of the world that are booming like a bad virus What investment opportunities are there for the 'little guy' (me) in Uganda? Can Kenyans buy property freely in Kampala? I've seen some very nice looking neighbourhoods and homes in various forums. What about other investments? Thanks, people!
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