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Old August 3rd, 2017, 11:27 PM   #21
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across the river will be awesome in 3 years
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 07:32 AM   #22
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Remember this view, because it won't stay looking like this for long:

Massive General Mills parking lot. Parking lot is located in North East Minneapolis, just east of the Saint Anthony parking ramp. The lot is proposed to have development. by quinn haberl, on Flickr
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Old September 5th, 2017, 08:37 PM   #23
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Is this project a go?
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Old September 5th, 2017, 11:03 PM   #24
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Is this project a go?
It was announced five months ago....
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Old September 5th, 2017, 11:35 PM   #25
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TCMPLS probably then means, when? Thought I heard this fall. Or was that 333 Hennepin?
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Old September 6th, 2017, 02:29 PM   #26
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That would be pretty cool if this one could start in the fall. That would be a fairly quick turnaround from planning commission to construction. I'm all for it.
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Old September 6th, 2017, 02:39 PM   #27
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Hopefully the NEBL is too busy with Alatus to fight this one.
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Old September 6th, 2017, 05:12 PM   #28
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I can't imagine they would have any kind of leg to stand on if they fought this one. There is a building right across the street with very similar height and it doesn't appear that these are as "high end" as the proposed condo tower a block away.
Maybe they could argue the historic significance of the asphalt lot as those are quickly disappearing!
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Old September 6th, 2017, 11:02 PM   #29
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I was under an impression that the neighborhood group was okay with this. From a recent Strib article:

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Earlier this summer, after presenting plans to neighbors and to the Minneapolis Planning Commission’s Committee of the Whole,
a team of Doran architects revised plans for the project. “The design changed to incorporate feedback from the neighborhood and Planning
Commission Committee of the Whole
,” said Tony Kuechle, a senior vice president of development for Doran.
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Old September 6th, 2017, 11:49 PM   #30
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I made it to Doran's presentation of the project to the neighborhood group earlier in the spring. I would say the reaction was mixed. Some were outraged at how tall it was (likely NEBL members?), but there were also many who wanted it even taller.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:36 AM   #31
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I was under an impression that the neighborhood group was okay with this. From a recent Strib article:
I thought the neighborhood group was okay with 200 Central too, and NEBL is totally separate.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 02:12 PM   #32
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outraged really? that's laughable. this site is on a major street. across from a ten story parking ramp. its not like some projects in uptown that almost abut single family homes.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 05:14 PM   #33
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It was a meeting set up by the neighborhood group for the public to come and respond to the design. It was a very early meeting and Doran didn't even have renderings yet. The people opposed to the height seemed to think it would have a negative impact on the historic integrity of the neighborhood, even though the tower is on the far north corner of the site. And like you said, it's next to a 10 story parking ramp. The opposition is pretty baffling to me.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 05:46 PM   #34
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There's a place for maintaining historical architecture and neighborhood feel, but it's probably not along the most expensive real estate in the metro area/state. Not that Chicago is a good benchmark for compromising preserving historical context and meeting developer's needs, but the neighborhoods behind the wall of hi-rises in places like Lincoln Park, Oldtown, Lakeview, etc. still look and feel very historic, despite being near hi-rises along the lake.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 05:05 PM   #35
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Looks like we have an updated rendering.
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http://www.mndaily.com/article/2017/...r-marcy-holmes

Here is the article.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 05:24 PM   #37
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Thanks for finding this. And looks like they've increased it from 20 to 25 floors! Only hiccup is (shocker) the MHNA says they're worried about the position of it and height, and some student association wants affordable housing in it. They say they don't want it to exceed the 16 story height of the Pillsbury grain elevator, but this is what they also say which I don't understand what they want then:

“We would prefer it to be closer to 2nd street, not near the University,” Lautenschlager said. “We have no objections to the tower, however … we want to have more varied [layout].”

I can smell something somewhat familiar. I say based off our shared experiences with another near by development *cough cough* that has had a few small hiccups getting started, here's my advice to the developers: just put affordable housing in one of the 5-story units, re-position the tower to be closer to 2nd ave, and well all be fine

At least these people are okay with having development there!
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Old September 14th, 2017, 06:31 PM   #38
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I know the developer has said they located the tower based on city comments. By my understanding the city planners and heritage preservation commission want the tower on University Ave, set back away from 2nd Street. So it will be interesting to see how the city responds to the neighborhood group.

I agree that the developer should throw in some affordable units. Could definitely get themselves some positive pub with that.

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Old September 14th, 2017, 07:18 PM   #39
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Yes, great find! This buildings color and design (not height of course) really reminds me of "The Nicollet" that never got built. I certainly hope it ends up 25 floors... and why in the world would someone not want a building taller than a grain elevator located within the same vicinity? WHO THE HECK CARES????!!!!
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Old September 14th, 2017, 09:11 PM   #40
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The design isn't awful, but it's not great either. It's quite similar to the Grant Park Tower, which tried hard at a sort of classic look and failed pretty miserably. Here's hoping this one comes out better somehow, but I can't say I'm optimistic.
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