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Old February 10th, 2019, 04:50 PM   #48481
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What Coronation Street requires is to be quietly put to sleep..
Not quietly - A pillow over the face or held underwater until the trashing stops might be more apt for a UK soap.
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Old February 11th, 2019, 01:23 PM   #48482
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Good progress

Was down in Manchester for the weekend and have been following this thread for a while so thought I'd stay at the Old Trafford Premier Inn to see some of the work in progress for myself.

Helpfully Premier Inn gave me a room that looked out straight onto the Wharfside stop and over to Gnome Island. Orange Jackets observed at work even on a Saturday morning.
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Old February 12th, 2019, 09:25 PM   #48483
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Avanti!

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Old February 13th, 2019, 11:46 PM   #48484
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I assume the gap is closed now
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Old February 14th, 2019, 09:32 AM   #48485
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I assume the gap is closed now
It looked as though it had been finally closed when I walked the route last week yes.

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Old February 14th, 2019, 07:16 PM   #48486
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Looked closed to me when I’ve been passed it this week.
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Old February 14th, 2019, 07:38 PM   #48487
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I wonder why the gap was there in the first place.
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Old February 14th, 2019, 08:27 PM   #48488
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I wonder why the gap was there in the first place.
I think it was so the final section between the two structures was independent of at least one of them to allow a degree of movement to accommodate thermal expansion etc. I am no expert on such matters and perhaps someone with more knowledge of bridges etc could confirm or deny this. However I do know the the existing viaduct has a number of expansion joints in it.
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Old February 15th, 2019, 12:18 AM   #48489
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Yeah pretty much that, you see the same thing on large road bridges (those bumps you feel). The gap in the concrete sections is still there but the surface of the gap is covered in a flexible rubber/interlocking metal teeth/polymer seal to allow movement.
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Old February 15th, 2019, 05:45 PM   #48490
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I was thinking it might need a possession to make the join but perhaps not . . . ?

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Old February 15th, 2019, 11:11 PM   #48491
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I was thinking it might need a possession to make the join but perhaps not . . . ?

It looked to me as though parts of the linking section may have been cast in situ and others perhaps lifted in during overnight possessions. I did see some weekend road closures booked towards the end of January for the lifting of bridge components but don't know whether they were ever taken. https://www.trafford.gov.uk/resident...f-TPL-0099.pdf
There are also weekend road closures booked right through to 10th March for viaduct construction works. https://www.trafford.gov.uk/resident...f-TPL-0101.pdf a
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Old February 15th, 2019, 11:12 PM   #48492
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So no longer need to " Mind the Gap" Sorry couldn't resist.
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Old February 18th, 2019, 07:04 PM   #48493
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On Saturday I had a day out to Blackpool for an update on the tramway extension to North Station, and posted this report on Blackpool thread :-

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Quite a bit of progress . . . !

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Old February 19th, 2019, 03:17 PM   #48494
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Conditions applications online for the Parkway and Event City stops.

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Metrolink Trafford Park Line Development Site Pomona Strand Old Trafford

Application for approval of details reserved by conditions of grant of planning permission TWA/14/APP/06. Condition number: 3 (Structures - Event City Stop).

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Application for approval of details reserved by conditions of grant of planning permission TWA/14/APP/16. Condition number: 3 (Structures - Park Way Structures).

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The application for the Parkway stop also shows renders of the bridge over the canal and general set up/finished look for area surrounding, along with 3D renders for Event City stop too.
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Old February 19th, 2019, 08:29 PM   #48495
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I posted these on the main Metrolink thread earlier but since they are related to the Trafford Park Line I suppose they should really have been on here. The relate to some items I found on the website of Tram_Pro the producers of driver simulation equipment.

I see from some web browsing that it would seem that work is in progress perhaps to prepare the driver simulator for Trafford Park Line training. Having been sent an email with an attachment describing the Nottingham simulator I had a quick look at the Tram Pro website https://www.tram-pro.com/ and found this graphic showing Village stop.

Trafford01-e1520373328928 by Steve Hyde, on Flickr

Compare with this enlargement from a photo I took 2 weeks ago. Obviously the viewing angle is different.

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and also this

There is also a simulated trip from the Trafford Centre to Pomona on the Engagement page. https://www.tram-pro.com/simulation/engagement/
Interestingly there seems to be a crossover on the Pomona side of Wharfside stop.

Please forgive the duplication between threads here but I thought there may be some folks who don't visit both threads.
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Old February 19th, 2019, 08:48 PM   #48496
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I posted these on the main Metrolink thread earlier but since they are related to the Trafford Park Line I suppose they should really have been on here. The relate to some items I found on the website of Tram_Pro the producers of driver simulation equipment.

I see from some web browsing that it would seem that work is in progress perhaps to prepare the driver simulator for Trafford Park Line training. Having been sent an email with an attachment describing the Nottingham simulator I had a quick look at the Tram Pro website https://www.tram-pro.com/ and found this graphic showing Village stop.

Trafford01-e1520373328928 by Steve Hyde, on Flickr

Compare with this enlargement from a photo I took 2 weeks ago. Obviously the viewing angle is different.

P1310756a by Steve Hyde, on Flickr

and also this

There is also a simulated trip from the Trafford Centre to Pomona on the Engagement page. https://www.tram-pro.com/simulation/engagement/
Interestingly there seems to be a crossover on the Pomona side of Wharfside stop.

Please forgive the duplication between threads here but I thought there may be some folks who don't visit both threads.
Just noticed there's no PPI shown in the video. If that turns out to be an accurate representation, does that rule out passenger usage?
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Old February 19th, 2019, 09:52 PM   #48497
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Just noticed there's no PPI shown in the video. If that turns out to be an accurate representation, does that rule out passenger usage?
Technically yes it should mean it shouldn't be used by passenger carrying trams. Most of the emergency crossovers are devoid of PPIs and are only used by empty trams turning back. However if they were to be provided with a points minder and secured for facing moves trams in passenger service could use them. That would really restrict such use to planned works.
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Old February 20th, 2019, 08:52 AM   #48498
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It could also be that they were waiting for the bulk concrete on the new viaduct to set and create the "final" deflection on these spans before they closed the gap to the older structure - they'd want the actual residual gap to be the bare minimum and it would be hard to predict, with design and construction tolerances in play.
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Old February 25th, 2019, 01:55 AM   #48499
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[...] I had a quick look at the Tram Pro website https://www.tram-pro.com/
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[...]

There is also a simulated trip from the Trafford Centre to Pomona on the Engagement page. https://www.tram-pro.com/simulation/engagement/
Interestingly there seems to be a crossover on the Pomona side of Wharfside stop. [...]




tram-pro seem to envisage that it'll mostly be zombies using the Trafford Centre line. Quite disturbing!


And I assume the two gentlemen dressed in matching outfits waiting for the tram at Pomona who do not board must be our own Freel and JdR who are there simply to appreciate the sheer beauty of the ascent from the canal-side on the first day of service...
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Old February 25th, 2019, 11:30 PM   #48500
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Some other alarming stuff in that rendition. Lane discipline of all road users is inch perfect but then at 3.14 all is revealed. Driver-less buses. So they're either optimistic about the roll out of driver-less public transport or pessimistic about the completion date of Metrolink extension.
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