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Old February 14th, 2020, 01:07 AM   #16661
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What is happening on this forum people seriously what age are you 5 ? This is so childish to keep fighting which skyline is better seriously any European skyline is nothing in comparison to asian or American skylines anyway. Definitely London and Moscow are leading in Europe. Paris, Frankfurt and Warsaw are completely behind and 3 of them are just a hair better from each other like its not like a day and night when you compare these 3 cities. People please stop this nonsense fight.

But I think that Paris, Frankfurt and Warsaw can easily compete with cities like Seattle, Atlanta, Boston, Minneapolis, Montreal and Calgary.
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Old February 14th, 2020, 01:47 AM   #16663
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But I think that Paris, Frankfurt and Warsaw can easily compete with cities like Seattle, Atlanta, Boston, Minneapolis, Montreal and Calgary.
I was in both Atlanta and Boston last week and I reckon Paris is far superior in terms of skyline than either of these. I've not been to Frankfurt or Warsaw but my guess is that they would more than hold their own against the Bostons of this worlds too. That's not to say that Boston isnt a great city (which it is) but in skyline terms its not that special (not is Atlanta).
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Old February 14th, 2020, 02:09 AM   #16664
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Old February 14th, 2020, 05:33 AM   #16665
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But I think that Paris, Frankfurt and Warsaw can easily compete with cities like Seattle, Atlanta, Boston, Minneapolis, Montreal and Calgary.
I'm not sure how I would compare European skylines to North American ones. I feel like it would be like comparing apples to oranges.
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Old February 14th, 2020, 08:53 AM   #16666
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Old February 14th, 2020, 11:36 AM   #16667
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Old February 14th, 2020, 12:26 PM   #16669
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Old February 14th, 2020, 02:03 PM   #16670
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same situation in Italy as in London
Definitely nope

With different situations according the different urbanistic history of the place, Italian cities got bigger streets than London's as average.

Obviously there are narrows streets and alleys in many old town centers, but there are many more set ups with wide streets. Even in old town centers sometimes

Few exemples of Italian wide roads replacing old urban texture

Rome





Napoli


Milan


Wide roads built in urban expansion

Milan
https://goo.gl/maps/GVx576WKaz8kG5h26
https://goo.gl/maps/WMrtfUEXvW3NvjXM7
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Turin
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https://goo.gl/maps/bfAyQfSog5wqand17

Rome
https://goo.gl/maps/uwAn5b3RwFzd23Qq8
https://goo.gl/maps/SyYWPswUdetEPxzK8
https://goo.gl/maps/9VP2tpMwmrVk1WjVA
https://goo.gl/maps/WQ2P83J4i3hQxCfn7

Palermo
https://goo.gl/maps/ASmnzvATFogmRhP57
https://goo.gl/maps/AKWMewjpCCcAPEGE6
https://goo.gl/maps/6kySKf625HGvCshw9
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About London.
I don't think it lacks of many wide streets because there weren't strong enough rulers to impose 'em

Simply London has a different urbanistic history and genesis related to many of its continental counterparts.

First of all, London 'doesn't exist'
It is actually an enourmous agglomeration of different cities (of which just one is 'the original' London and is only one square mile big. Yeah, you get it!) with different administrative institutions, even today, and with no coordination body 'till the sixties.

Then its urban spread was mostly in a pre mass motorization era, while in the rest of Europe it was mostly a post war matter and urban planning had to make room for cars in newly built up areas (in England as well. eg Milton Keynes)

Not only for London, but even for the rest of Europe demolishing to build wide roads and connections was not a common practice after '50s
The problem for the British capital was its huge built up area. So that, while other cities could find room for that in fresh urbanized area, London had to work on its consolidated urban texture

That said, even in London there are examples of old texture demolitions to build new wide roads



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Old February 14th, 2020, 02:29 PM   #16671
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Old February 14th, 2020, 02:34 PM   #16672
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^autocracy, countries that historically did not have a strong tradition of freedom end up with grand boulevards because there was always a ruler powerful enough to decree that they are built, we see the same thing in Russia.

London doesn't have many such boulevards because there was never a strong enough ruler to demand that they are built. This continues to this day, London has needed a new runway for three decades, it never gets one because people protest too much.
You mean like the US where streets are ridiculously long and wide? Improvements to traffic and the built environment was very much i vogue in the early 20th century in both democratic and autocratic countries. Same thing happened in London with the construction of Regent Street, Kingsway and Aldwych. And of course Victoria Embankment was built as early as the 1860s. Then post-war new thoroughfares were ploughed through the city such as London Wall and Thames Street. Of course a Haussmann-style makeover of an already established city requires autocratic rule.
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Old February 14th, 2020, 02:37 PM   #16673
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Old February 14th, 2020, 04:03 PM   #16674
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Munich Metropolitan has about 6 million whereas Frankfurt's Rhine-Main Metro Region is about 5.6 million.
Munich metro area has 24.677 km2 and Frankfurt has 14.755 km2.
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Old February 14th, 2020, 04:09 PM   #16675
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Munich metro area has 24.677 km2
That's more than Lombardy region and two times ╬le-de-France region

Not true metro area (for Frankfurt as well)
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Old February 14th, 2020, 05:29 PM   #16676
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Definitely nope

With different situations according the different urbanistic history of the place, Italian cities got bigger streets than London's as average.

Obviously there are narrows streets and alleys in many old town centers, but there are many more set ups with wide streets. Even in old town centers sometimes

Few exemples of Italian wide roads replacing old urban texture

Rome





Napoli


Milan


Wide roads built in urban expansion

Milan
https://goo.gl/maps/GVx576WKaz8kG5h26
https://goo.gl/maps/WMrtfUEXvW3NvjXM7
https://goo.gl/maps/RgDPW5y2dZddEbLM7
https://goo.gl/maps/8jBXKc5R2o6PpXQs9

Turin
https://goo.gl/maps/8RU624hD1bEbtrvg6
https://goo.gl/maps/7PwoVaNFhVNKmbzcA
https://goo.gl/maps/gQAKp2LVAfBEGHQy6
https://goo.gl/maps/bfAyQfSog5wqand17

Rome
https://goo.gl/maps/uwAn5b3RwFzd23Qq8
https://goo.gl/maps/SyYWPswUdetEPxzK8
https://goo.gl/maps/9VP2tpMwmrVk1WjVA
https://goo.gl/maps/WQ2P83J4i3hQxCfn7

Palermo
https://goo.gl/maps/ASmnzvATFogmRhP57
https://goo.gl/maps/AKWMewjpCCcAPEGE6
https://goo.gl/maps/6kySKf625HGvCshw9
https://goo.gl/maps/uJx4n9rpL6uwkGYF7
If I may point out some earlier interventions into the urban fabric of Rome by Pope Sixtus V (another revolutionary Franciscan) starting in 1585, who many regard as the father of urban design. He started cutting long axes into the ancient city to connect up key squares and public nodes that he liked to visually terminate and link with his favourite urban design tool - the obelisk.


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You mean like the US where streets are ridiculously long and wide? Improvements to traffic and the built environment was very much i vogue in the early 20th century in both democratic and autocratic countries. Same thing happened in London with the construction of Regent Street, Kingsway and Aldwych. And of course Victoria Embankment was built as early as the 1860s. Then post-war new thoroughfares were ploughed through the city such as London Wall and Thames Street. Of course a Haussmann-style makeover of an already established city requires autocratic rule.

Without resorting to autocratic duress, many city's in North America saw some beautification interventions into their fabric in the early 20th century thanks to inspiration from Burnham's City Beautiful Movement. Toronto downtown was to be totally remade, in the end we got a new grand albeit slightly truncated vision of University Avenue. These new grand avenues and circles used skyscrapers to enhance their grandeur:






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