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Old December 15th, 2015, 09:33 PM   #1
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Baltimore Metro Subway | 15.4 mi (24.8 km) | 14 Stations | In Service

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Type : Metro
Service Levels : Every 10mins during peak , w/ 25min off peak
System size : 15.4 mi (24.8 km)
Stations : 14
Began Operation : November 21, 1983
Daily Ridership : 27,537 (2015)
Electrification : 700 V DC, Top Contact
Operating Speed : 70 mph (110 km/h)
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Old December 16th, 2015, 02:51 AM   #2
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I wish this system was built out to its full (subway) capacity:

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Old December 16th, 2015, 02:57 AM   #3
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I'll settle for a small expansion at least up to the MARC line.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 05:31 PM   #4
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SRB recently sent a letter to Gov. Hogan requesting funding for a subway extension to Morgan State. This idea was also included in BMC's Maximize2040 transportation plan.

One possible problem in retrospect with that plan was the 2002 plan it wasn't particular enough with the modes. It left open the possibility for a variety of options on each line, and in the end, we ended up getting bogged down in debates over which modes to build. Otherwise, it was and still is a very solid plan.

If you look at some of the more recent plans adopted or proposed in other cities - Denver, Phoenix, Seattle, Atlanta - they specify the mode.
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Old December 29th, 2015, 09:52 PM   #5
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SRB recently sent a letter to Gov. Hogan requesting funding for a subway extension to Morgan State. This idea was also included in BMC's Maximize2040 transportation plan.

One possible problem in retrospect with that plan was the 2002 plan it wasn't particular enough with the modes. It left open the possibility for a variety of options on each line, and in the end, we ended up getting bogged down in debates over which modes to build. Otherwise, it was and still is a very solid plan.

If you look at some of the more recent plans adopted or proposed in other cities - Denver, Phoenix, Seattle, Atlanta - they specify the mode.
There's always been this dismissal of hard rail because of the cost. It just seems so odd to me. The amount of building that was done for highways and subways in the 60's-80's was staggering. Shouldn't improved technology make things cheaper, all things being relative? (I'm assuming the cost generally comes from having to elevate hard rail tracks and make tunnels bigger.) What is so incredibly expensive about creating a small elevated bridge for hard rail? Light rail is a nice compromise, but in my opinion affirms a city's rail use as either a novelty or small supplement to dominant car-based transportation. Even new york's subway construction now is slow and incredibly expensive. What the hell happened to technology and speed of construction from 50-100 years ago? lol
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Old January 5th, 2016, 09:50 PM   #6
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I'll settle for a small expansion at least up to the MARC line.
I agree this one stop expansion seems like the most logical and easiest expansion that we will see any time soon.

It will allow marc traffic a one stop transfer to downtown.
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Old January 8th, 2016, 03:28 AM   #7
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3rd Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Baltimore

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Baltimore / Metro - 41,700 (2015) :
- 14.91%
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Old January 9th, 2016, 03:26 PM   #8
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What's the correlation to these low numbers?
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Old January 9th, 2016, 10:10 PM   #9
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Did fares go up? Was service cut? Did a major employer along the line close? Those factors can all cause ridership to slump...
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Old January 10th, 2016, 10:17 PM   #10
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Perhaps the fact that the price of gas dropped by a dollar per gallon between 3Q14 and 3Q15 played a role, particularly in car-dependent areas. DC Metro numbers might jump again this year with the increase in transit benefits. MARC might too, a bit. Based on the numbers, it looks like nearly all of the transit modes in Baltimore, DC, and Northern Virginia had lower ridership numbers in the third quarter.

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Old January 15th, 2016, 05:04 PM   #11
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I agree this one stop expansion seems like the most logical and easiest expansion that we will see any time soon.

It will allow marc traffic a one stop transfer to downtown.
I believe that the Regional Transportation Board has identified a 2 stop extension to North Avenue/District Court for the near future. But apparently the cost is something insane like 600 million dollars (how is that even possible???) Still, that little extension could help the system a lot. Besides the MARC connection, you have a great opportunity for redevelopment around the Courthouse and expanded Blacks in Wax Museum at Broadway and North. It would also open up the Northeast to the Metro. I wonder what it would take to corral some of the energy left over from the Red Line fight and re-direct it to pushing this.
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I'll settle for a small expansion at least up to the MARC line.
It would only make perfect sense. The idea of extending to MARC is a must, however they should seriously ponder about extending the line to Morgan State.

To get riders, you have to go where there are riders! I'm sure a great deal of college students would love direct access to jobs downtown, and leisure activities on the weekends.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 04:23 AM   #13
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It would only make perfect sense. The idea of extending to MARC is a must, however they should seriously ponder about extending the line to Morgan State.

To get riders, you have to go where there are riders! I'm sure a great deal of college students would love direct access to jobs downtown, and leisure activities on the weekends.
University would be a bigger ridership generator... The MARC Extension could squeeze out a few thousand riders , but Morgan State you probably get up 50,000+... Upzone along the route and even more then that would use the service.
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Old March 16th, 2016, 04:12 AM   #14
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Let March 16th 2016 go down forever as the day Baltimore had a better subway system than DC.
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Haha , maybe that will entice more hipsters and yuppies to move to Baltimore.
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There's always been this dismissal of hard rail because of the cost. It just seems so odd to me. The amount of building that was done for highways and subways in the 60's-80's was staggering. Shouldn't improved technology make things cheaper, all things being relative? (I'm assuming the cost generally comes from having to elevate hard rail tracks and make tunnels bigger.) What is so incredibly expensive about creating a small elevated bridge for hard rail? Light rail is a nice compromise, but in my opinion affirms a city's rail use as either a novelty or small supplement to dominant car-based transportation. Even new york's subway construction now is slow and incredibly expensive. What the hell happened to technology and speed of construction from 50-100 years ago? lol
Technology is never the problem. Liability, legal, bureaucratic and environmental issues drive up the costs now.
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Old April 1st, 2016, 09:41 PM   #17
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Fourth quarter ridership numbers were released today: http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf

Baltimore saw increases from last quarter on metro subway, light rail, and bus. It saw a decrease in MARC ridership. Ridership still isn't back to where it was last year, but overall, the substantial decreases we saw last quarter appear to have been a statistical anomaly.
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I'm surprised MARC saw a decrease...any major disruptions in the 4th Quarter?
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Old April 2nd, 2016, 05:57 PM   #19
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Is the Baltimore subway in any better shape than the DC metrorail system?
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It's about 10 years newer. Hopefully it was designed a bit differently.
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