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View Poll Results: Should the Sun-Belt cities get the Great Lakes water?
I am from the Great Lakes Region and I say Yes, they should. 0 0%
I am from the Great Lakes Region and I say NO. 18 56.25%
I am from the South and western states and I want the lovely refreshing Great Lake water. 6 18.75%
I am from the South and western states and I say we will get water else where else. 3 9.38%
I am from neither, I would give let the southern and western states drink the Great Lake water. 1 3.13%
I am from neither, if the people from the s and w states want the GL Water, move to the GL region. 4 12.50%
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Old July 27th, 2005, 10:53 PM   #1
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First, Sun-belt cities takes people from the Great Lakes, now they want water there.

Published: Wednesday, July 27, 2005

Drilling could be banned in and under Great Lakes




WASHINGTON (AP) — Oil and gas drilling would be banned in the Great Lakes under a measure adopted by House and Senate negotiators Tuesday.

Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Menominee, had sought the prohibition amid concerns that the Great Lakes, a large source of drinking water and integral part of the state's tourism industry, could be threatened by an oil spill.

A temporary ban on drilling was set by Congress in 2001 and has been extended twice. The moratorium is set to expire in 2007.

"We have had several victories with temporary bans on drilling, but this provision is a permanent ban which will protect our country's most valuable fresh water resource for generations to come," Stupak said.

Stupak's amendment to the bill would prevent new permits or leases for oil and gas drilling in or under the Great Lakes. The measure was supported by Rep. John Dingell, D-Dearborn, and Rep. Fred Upton, R-St. Joseph.

Fresh water

The Great Lakes supply drinking water to more than 30 million people and make up about 20 percent of the world's fresh surface water.

Stupak and other members of Congress who represent districts around the lakes have said the permanent ban would prevent a state legislature or governor from allowing drilling.

Michigan, New York, Wisconsin, Illinois and Ohio have drilling bans in their states, but the bans are not found in Indiana, Pennsylvania and Minnesota.

Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Brighton, has opposed Stupak's approach, arguing that the powers should be left to the states in the region. Rogers, who also opposes drilling in the lakes, has said the federal ban could empower western states to gain access to drinking water from the Great Lakes.

http://www.vindy.com/content/nationa...4165903015.php

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I say, if you want the lovely, refreshing Great Lakes water, move back here. If you choose to live in Sun-Belt Cities, get your own water supplies.


(GL means Great Lakes and S and W means southern and western)
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Old July 27th, 2005, 11:38 PM   #2
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I heard about that ridiculous plan a while back, and I say NO!!! I am right there with you that if ppl want plentiful water, they better move where the water is!!! If you move to the sunbelt, you need to accept that it is a dry area, DESERT!!! And that is part of the risk of living here. And think of how much land it would take to build pips/canals to bring that water here! It would be huge costs, and tons of pumps would be needed, too much imo.
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Old July 27th, 2005, 11:46 PM   #3
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Well, we are all americans, and the lakes belong to america.
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Old July 27th, 2005, 11:50 PM   #4
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Don't forget about Canada
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Old July 27th, 2005, 11:58 PM   #5
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Well, we are all americans, and the lakes belong to america.
Ok, then I propose the Great Lakes states take the downtowns of the Southern cities and make them our landfills.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 12:22 AM   #6
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I really dont think alot of the south (outside Florida) needs water (correct me if I am wrong) and it is certainly not desert.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 12:23 AM   #7
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you guys are stupid
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Old July 28th, 2005, 12:41 AM   #8
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I really dont think alot of the south (outside Florida) needs water (correct me if I am wrong) and it is certainly not desert.
Atlanta needs water. Alabama, Georgia, and Florida have had a long legal battle over who has rights over the Chattahoochee River, and AL and FL believe that they are not getting their fair share. Atlanta also tried to get water from the TN river, but after protests, the idea was dropped.
Outside of Atlanta, there is no immediate need for more water in the SE. Now areas like Arizona are another story. But the Great Lakes are not the answer to someone else's problem 2000 miles away.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 01:05 AM   #9
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Piping water from the Great Lakes to the desert soutwest will not happen, at least without a fight. Plus it would be pretty expensive.
Anyway, people down there have nothing to worry about, they have the mighty Colorado River!
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Old July 28th, 2005, 01:26 AM   #10
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The article says western nothing about atlanta or florida.

The article doesn't say when, how much, who gets the water(the "west" is a big area), or who they are paying. SO stop freaking out no one is stealing your "water".

also, your "cities" don't own 20% of the fresh water on the planet

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you guys are stupid
edit:sorry don't mean everyone in the thread only the first two posters
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Old July 28th, 2005, 01:33 AM   #11
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I brought up the Southeast because it was mentioned under the "sunbelt" generalization and in that poll.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 01:39 AM   #12
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Sunbelt is the Southeast and Southwest. So bringing the southeast up would make sense to me. Plus I wouldn't want filthy Great Lakes water. I'd rather converte it from salt water, which were planning and building. Its not like there going to build a huge pipeline going from Michigan to Texas and beyond...
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Old July 28th, 2005, 01:56 AM   #13
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Sunbelt is the Southeast and Southwest.
He screwed up the title too

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federal ban could empower western states to gain access to drinking water from the Great Lakes.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 02:15 AM   #14
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Personally, I think desalination is the way to go, but like it was said before, the midwest doesn't "own" the Great Lakes. I think if it became necessary and feasible, than the Great Lakes water should be shared. FYI, Austin has it's own Colorado River made into the Highland Lakes, as well as the Edward's Aquifer, so we're not hurting for water.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 02:30 AM   #15
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The Great lakes are protected by the US and Canadian government they are in no danger of being drained by anyone. Also such a large a project would add to the jobs and the economy of the Great lakes.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 03:13 AM   #16
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First of all the title is kinda misleading, to bring people to read the thread.

Second of all, I heard that the Colorado River has dried up in Mexico, as it doesnt reach the Gulf of California.

http://com.miami.edu/collaborative/a...ngColorado.htm

Doesnt this would affect the Southwestern states, as they always fight about the river, and year by year that region gain more and more people.

Um... the five Great Lakes are very large, and maybe 20% of the world freshwater.

See look here, if you elimate the Casipen Sea, since that is salt water.

Lake Superior is 1st in the largest freshwater lake in the world.

3rd is Huron, 4th is Michigan, 12th is Erie and 14th is Ontario.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 04:55 AM   #17
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who said that the lakes belong to that area. those lakes belong to us all. just like the mississippi, salt lake, mizzou river, puget sound, hudson bay, etc. its not theres to just wallop over. its ours.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 05:00 AM   #18
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This is exactly why I refuse to live from the Atlantic Ocean.
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Old July 28th, 2005, 05:08 AM   #19
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Why is that now?
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Old July 28th, 2005, 05:09 AM   #20
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The Colorado doesn't reach the Gulf anymore.
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