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Old July 29th, 2008, 03:36 AM   #1
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looks like Sydney trumps melbourne for once.
Sydney to get Australias largest hotel with 757 rooms (100 more then melbournes Crown3)

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Old July 29th, 2008, 03:39 AM   #2
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Melbourne has never claimed to have the largest hotel-- Crown claims to be the tallest (which at 152m it currently is until Surfers Hilton). The three hotels at Crown are all separate.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 04:07 AM   #3
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maybe you should do more research like i do?

the 3rd crown tower uc atm will be australias largest with 658 rooms on completion in 09.
and has been promoted as that>

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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...61-661,00.html

http://www.theage.com.au/news/travel...091002260.html
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Old July 29th, 2008, 04:22 AM   #4
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As I said in the other thread, I apologise. I thought you were reffering to all three hotels collectively.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 04:36 AM   #5
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Even without the expansion of exhbition and convention facilities, there is demand for more rooms as Sydney is short of rooms.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 06:35 AM   #6
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apparently the first tower at barangaroo starting next year will be 50 floor/150m hotel!

(Crown look-a-like in front of tallest tower)
if it goes to 153m it will be tallest in oz.
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Old July 29th, 2008, 12:14 PM   #7
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^ Cool, a 150m tower in Sydney! I guess this conforms to the City Of Sydney planning guidelines that state that "All skyscrapers should be 150m give or take a few metres if the developer wants an easy ride, otherwise lets grind them!".

I like the shape of Novotel, this could make it look really really crap and disjointed, like an add on. Sort of like when someone converts their garage into a rumpus room. And I thought the plan was to get rid of the convention centre in the grand Sydney 2030 plan???
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Old July 30th, 2008, 08:26 AM   #8
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It won't be as architecturally cool as Crown Mark III though, the latter with its glass 'n sexy curvature. The architecture should interest more than how many rabbit hutches are to be stuffed inside.

Staar City's 13 or 14-storey (?) addition is still in the pipeline. Bits and pieces get to print in the local rags, mostly negative, esp. about taking the "village" atmosphere away from that end of Harris St..lol.

As far as the hotel @ Barangaroo, I doubt it will be well patronised before all or even most of the commercial blocks are to be completed. Unless the hotel chain has the $ capital to ride it out with only say....10% patronage @ first letting its reputation grow. Having said that, it would be only a year or 2 according to the schedule when the southern end commercial towers are completed in the first stages. There won't be many, if any, tourist attractions down there for a bit.

Anyway, the Novotel addition looks run-of-the-mill, added to an 80s-designed ziggurat.
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Old July 30th, 2008, 03:34 PM   #9
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Muse I am confused, why do you think a hotel would not work there? It is right next to King Street Wharf, the water and only a few hundred metres from Wynyard.
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Old July 31st, 2008, 12:26 PM   #10
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In addition to that:

*As pointed out there is huge demand for rooms in Sydney
*It would be virtually on the harbours edge- not many hotels in Sydney can boast that.
*Never to be built out views to the west!!!!
*Near Darling Harbour.
*Lots of marketing prior to it's opening.

The hotel will most likely have exhbition space and retail which will pull the people in.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 12:20 AM   #11
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yes, agree, idealic spot ofr hotel. bangar00 will be hive of activity in a decade and tram and new ferry terminal will make the place atractive to not only locals but os visitors.
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Muse I am confused, why do you think a hotel would not work there? It is right next to King Street Wharf, the water and only a few hundred metres from Wynyard.
I didn't say that it wouldn't work. Read it again as it is only in regard to the hotel's construction timing as pointed out by Culwulla (You too Fabian), thus your confusion will cease to exist. I was thinking about business people needing to visit offices etc in the area, and the commercial scrapers will come on-line successively.

In fact, if I think about whether or not a major hotel @ Barangaroo will (eventually) be a success - sure, why not.
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This has been approved by planning NSW - http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.go...ob&job_id=2973
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 10:15 PM   #14
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The existing Darling Hbr Novotel is dated inside and outside and needs $ spent on it to bring it up to scratch. The pastel pink exterior colour is absolutely hideous - please re-paint it when you've finished building the extension you cheap bastards.
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It always looked like a good idea that tanked in the construction, and yes, the exterior colour - I've always thought of it as BabyShitBrown - ensured a very dull and uninspired building. I hope Architectus' additions give it a better image b/c it sure could do with it.
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Given it's form, if it was re-cald completely in shimmery blue glass it would look AWESOME !
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but i really don't mind it's current look, at least it has reflective windows. I really think this addition is an ugly adjunct and should have been designed to better reflect the current style of the building. Really it's a shame, it reminds me of those horrid patio extensions where they enclose an area of a property and face it with flyscreen.
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Actually Avy you'd be impressed with the all glass foyer which is mooted. You'd love making an entrance there.

A bit of a refurb of the existing building will do, the carpark wrecks it completely. Do I need to see it from Darling Harbour???
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LOL Fabian, you make an entrance at the Establishment, Sheraton on the Park or the Shangrila, not the novotel!
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