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Old May 27th, 2018, 03:15 PM   #1021
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It could be financed as a toll tunnel.
Nonetheless, somebody has to pay for it first before it can be built
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Old May 28th, 2018, 04:20 PM   #1022
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I have been in Boka Kotorska two months ago.... Boka is completely blocked with Croatian, Albanian and Montenegrin trucks going from Albania thru Montenegro up to Croatia and further.
They transit to the small tourist places like Kotor and in the summer the crowds are getting crazy.
The overall problem about the shortage for this bridge is that Kotor is famous for its large docking cruisers which operate from early March.
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Old May 28th, 2018, 04:36 PM   #1023
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Nonetheless, somebody has to pay for it first before it can be built
and the bit of Motorway the Chinese are building is costing around 40% of GDP
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Old May 28th, 2018, 04:42 PM   #1024
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That's were PPPs come into play. A consortium fronts the cost of the tunnel and collects tolls to repay it. This doesn't have to cost the government anything. Norway uses a hybrid model (partial government funded, mostly bond-funded).
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Old May 28th, 2018, 04:55 PM   #1025
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I've heard that UNESCO was threatening that they will remove Kotor from their list if Montenegro government build this bridge.

On the other side, last month I visited Iceland, so they have like half of Montenegro population and to be fair they are one of the strongest European economies but still they've managed to build great roads and tunnels.

Hvalfjörđur Tunnel is the only toll road in the Iceland, it's 5,7 kilometers long, and it goes 165 meters below sea level. Construction started in 1996 and they've open it in 1998. It shortens the distance by 45 kilometers, and traffic increased on that level that they are planning to build another one.

The construction cost was around 70 million USD and toll was more expensive in the beginning, while price being decreased by the time so by the end of the 2018, the tunnel should be free of charge.

It was a brave step for such a small nation during that time, and Montenegro did similar thing with the Sozina tunnel, only toll tunnel in Montenegro, opened in 2005, which length is 4,1 kilometers. The cost was 70 million euros.

Same thing happened as with Hvalfjörđur tunnel, traffic increased because of tourists, and the main difference between these two tunnels is that Sozina is already planned to be part of Bar-Boljare motorway, so the second tube was already planned for construction.

But huge deal for Montenegro would be the construction of under-sea tunnel on Verige strait, that tunnel would be not more than one kilometer long, and the impact would be huge.



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Old May 28th, 2018, 05:58 PM   #1026
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The worst thing to do is to build an underground sea tunnel here. It is like the Peljesac bridge, it could have been an underground also but its not about costs only.

The thing is, there will be no fast road/motorway around the Bay, so a normal bridge will suit just fine, if its high enough, not to block the strait to Kotor.
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Old June 3rd, 2018, 05:52 AM   #1027
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I've said it before and I'll say it again....we gotta build our Chinese friends a monument
for all they're doing in Montenegro

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The Chinese rescue the bridge at Đurđević Tara
The bridge is considered one of the most beautiful in the world (Photo N. Đurić)

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Podgorica - The Bridge at Đurđević Tara will reconstruct the Chinese with its own funds. In the reconstruction of this unique bridge, which is ranked among the ten most beautiful in the world, the Chinese will invest more than 2.5 million euros. At the end of last year, an agreement was signed by the Chinese government to set a 20 million Chinese yuan subsidy, or 2.65 million euros, by the Chinese government, signed by the Deputy Prime Minister of Montenegro, Milutin Simovic, and the Ambassador of the People's Republic of China to Montenegro, Cuj Divey.

The Ambassador of the People's Republic of China assessed that the rehabilitation of the bridge on Tara has a great and historic significance for strengthening the traditional friendship of the two peoples, but also practical, with the aim of continuing to promote cooperation and increase the number of Chinese tourists.

"In addition to being an important traffic node in the north of Montenegro and a tourist potential, the bridge on Đurđević Tara has a historical significance and has a fighting spirit, since during the Second World War it played an important role in the fight against fascism," said Dive. He reminded that the Chinese people are still a popular movie "Bridge", which was filmed at this location.

"We can say that this bridge connects the hearts of the Chinese and Montenegrin people and that it is a reflection of their traditional friendship," the Chinese ambassador said at the time.

As the latest feasibility study showed that the initially identified funds under the last year's agreement would not be sufficient for the reconstruction of the bridge, the Chinese announced the other day that they were ready to grant an additional amount of 2.6 million euros, and that with the Government of Montenegro They sign a new agreement upstairs.

Deputy Prime Minister Milutin Simovic says that the additional donation is another sign of the "great attention the Chinese government has dedicated to the reconstruction of the bridge to Đurđević Tara".

"By granting VAT for works and materials on the section of the Podgorica-Mateševo ​​highway, Montenegro has made a cheaper reconstruction of the bridge for what is needed to finance Montenegro itself," said Simović. "We can now say that the end of this first section is visible, and we are also negotiating the continuation of the construction of the highway". He pledged that all preparatory actions and procedures will soon be completed and that the conditions for the early completion of works on the bridge will be met.

"While builders from China build a new bridge in Montenegro, the Moračica bridge, which will be a construction venture and a decoration of a highway, our friends are starting a project of renewing an old magnificent bridge like this on Đurđević Tara. It seems to me that in a picturesque way it talks about today's Montenegro - modern, European and Euro-Atlantic. About Montenegro that wants and wants to preserve the old bridges that have been for centuries of friendship, but also for Montenegro who wants and wants to build new bridges, "Simovic's message.

The bridge at Đurđević Tara is located between the villages Budačečica and Trešnjica, on the main road Pljevlja-Žabljak and is one of the most visited attractions in Montenegro. The bridge with its architecture and dimensions is one of the largest and most beautiful transportation facilities in the world. The Bridge at Đurđević Tara, which rises above the canyon of the river, according to the selection of the Bridge Bridge, was ranked among the 20 most beautiful in the world, while the British magazine "Times" included it in 10 attractions to visit.

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Old June 4th, 2018, 06:35 AM   #1028
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One thing's for sure, this ain't your average, boring Polish highway....



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Old June 4th, 2018, 02:03 PM   #1029
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It could be financed as a toll tunnel.
There's really no reason not to build it as such. Even if the water is 30m deep at this point, then just place the tunnel portal here and let it descend under the water before climbing up and out somewhere above Kotor. A 50km/h limit in the tunnel is more than enough, so it doesn't have to be constructed for high speed.

Having said that, I've used the ferries a few times, and the service is very inefficient. They could speed up the process significantly by using wider boats at this point, as well as reconfiguring the toll system by simply having automated toll collection points in each lane at the terminals.

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Old June 12th, 2018, 06:10 PM   #1030
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Just another ordinary day in Montenegro...

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Old June 19th, 2018, 02:46 PM   #1032
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Old July 8th, 2018, 02:42 PM   #1035
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Overhaul of regional roads... section of road between Mojkovac & Bijelo Polje:

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Old July 9th, 2018, 10:50 PM   #1036
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Vjeternik tunnel , at 3km the longest along the currently U/C section of motorway, bored through today by combined Chinese & local crews today...







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Old July 10th, 2018, 09:30 PM   #1037
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Quite a pretty penny from toll collection for Sozina tunnel:

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From the collection of tolls through the tunnel, they already earned 4.3 million euros

Podgorica - In the first half of the year, Monteput earned more than 4.3 million euros from the toll payment for the passage of 1,187,265 vehicles through the Sozina tunnel.

Of this, as they said, 3.7 million were paid for 1,033,315 or 87 percent of passenger vehicles, while 600,000 related to the rest, according to Dnevne novine from that company.

"Billing growth is continuously recorded. Last year it was at the level of 10 to 12 percent, while this year the number of vehicles at the last year's level, or slightly higher. It is interesting that the number of trucks with four or more axles has increased by 15 percent compared to 2017, "said Monteput, according to the CDM.

Through Sozin during the summer season, an average of 12,800 vehicles per day, and the record was recorded in August 2016.

"The most took place on August 1, 2016, at 16,444," they specified in Monteput

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Latest aerial video...ever since they got their hands on a drone, Bemax (local contractor) is posting pretty much daily updates from their sections of motorway

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Old July 16th, 2018, 12:38 PM   #1039
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Chinas highway to nowhere haunts Montenegro.

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A Chinese loan for the first phase has sent Montenegro’s debt soaring and forced the government to raise taxes, partially freeze public sector wages and end a benefit for mothers to get its finances in order.

Despite those measures, Montenegro’s debt is expected to approach 80 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) this year and the International Monetary Fund says the country cannot afford to take on any more debt to finish its ambitious project.

“There is a big question about how they complete it,” said an EU official who requested anonymity. “Their fiscal space has shrunk enormously. They have strangled themselves. And for the time being this is a highway to nowhere.”
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Because the government did not hedge against currency swings and omitted a vital turnpike from its original blueprint, the cost has continued to rise. It is now approaching 1 billion euros, nearly a quarter of Montenegro’s GDP.

A March report from the Washington-based Center for Global Development which examined the debt risks associated with BRI listed Montenegro as one of eight highly vulnerable countries, alongside Djibouti, the Maldives, Laos, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Pakistan.
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So if they spend another 25% of their GDP they will reach the Border. Now Serbia only has to build 100km through the mountains.. What on earth were they thinking? Montenegro has just 640.000 People in it.
it would have made more sense to upgrade the Road Network on a more sensible scale.
For instance upgrading the Connection to Bar and perhaps to the Albanian Border as a Motorway (short, flat) and the busiest sections first as expressways and upgrade later as needed.
For instance Podgorica to Nikšić and on to Bosnia, as well as towards Kotor Bay and Croatia.
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