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Old October 28th, 2019, 03:26 PM   #721
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sorry to disappoint, but...
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Old November 8th, 2019, 06:14 PM   #723
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It's an outstanding stadium. Very elegant.
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Old November 8th, 2019, 06:41 PM   #724
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What I love about it, that it fits well with the city around, it's not an alien.
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Old November 8th, 2019, 07:11 PM   #725
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This is the future of architecture! Sustainable as much as it's elegant, modest, but also beautiful and contemporary. So glad we got this over a huge literal white elephant.
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Old November 9th, 2019, 02:49 AM   #726
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reminds me of the camp nou expansion / remodel. elegant af
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Old November 9th, 2019, 03:52 AM   #727
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What I love about it, that it fits well with the city around, it's not an alien.
I second this. I'm very happy they rejected that ugly coochie stadium design. This fits perfectly into the surroundings, not disrupting the harmony of Japanese typical skyline.
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Old November 10th, 2019, 02:21 AM   #728
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One last update for everyone before its completion:

https://www.jpnsport.go.jp/newstadiu..._siryou_01.pdf







I love the landscaping around the stadium; they even added some water features that I wasn't expecting.





According from the schedule, target completion date is November with the opening on January 1st. Overall, I am quite impressed with what they had in mind and I was more than happy that they didn't go with Zaha Hadid's design.
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Old November 10th, 2019, 02:54 AM   #729
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It's japanese architectural style. Simple but bold.
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Old November 10th, 2019, 07:14 PM   #730
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This is the future of architecture! Sustainable as much as it's elegant, modest, but also beautiful and contemporary. So glad we got this over a huge literal white elephant.
I would call it nice; prim and proper; perfectly OK; not offensive. A solid addition to Tokyo or any city.

But It's a pretty bleak future a-comin' if that's it. As Philip Johnson said, architecture is about tears, about being moved deeply. I don't see that here.

You don't have to do the juvenile excesses of Hadid to be great, but at least show me your excited about being alive.
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Old November 10th, 2019, 08:46 PM   #731
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I'm glad that Olympism regains the iconic Olympic stadiums that we lost after Beijing. In the end, I really like this stadium. Congratulations.
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looks weak
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Old November 14th, 2019, 08:34 PM   #733
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I would call it nice; prim and proper; perfectly OK; not offensive. A solid addition to Tokyo or any city.

But It's a pretty bleak future a-comin' if that's it. As Philip Johnson said, architecture is about tears, about being moved deeply. I don't see that here.

You don't have to do the juvenile excesses of Hadid to be great, but at least show me your excited about being alive.
Bear in mind we're judging pictures here (I'm assuming you haven't seen it on site. If you did, ignore me). The experience of Architecture/Landscape in person is pretty dinamic. The perception of scale and the succession of angles and spaces in the way may change your mind completely (it also may not, who knows).
Anyway, I do think this stadium and its sorroundings have the potencial to provide a 'deeply moving' experience, maybe just not in the way most people would anticipate. It seems like we need to be overstimulated and euphoric all the time to 'feel excited about living'. If done right, the japanese way can make us calm the f*** down and appreciate things slowly.

Just wish I had the time and money to visit.
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Old November 15th, 2019, 05:45 AM   #734
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I was quite skeptical about this new project when they started building the stadium against Zaha Hadid's original plans for that "parametric" stadium. Seeing it on photos was actually quite different from actually being on site. I was thinking about how Zaha's design might end up through the context of the park it contains with and the structures that are closeby like Fumihiko Maki's Metropolitan Gymnasium. Yeah, the original design looks nice and like an aerodynamic bike helmet from the renders, but if you think about it by walking through the site, all you'd get is a grey, bleak looking stadium that makes users feel like they haven't had a break walking through Tokyo's literal concrete jungle.

Visiting the stadium site in September of 2018 changed my mind quite a bit and I actually developed a liking for this development. The use of wood and landscaping throughout the stadium just makes it more comfortable to walk through and you feel a sense of relief from Tokyo's grind. If this was Zaha's design I would have just spent 15 minutes looking at it and thinking about "oh, that's a funky looking stadium". This stadium made me stay there for 2 hours because I can actually feel like it's a nicer place to take a break before moving back and exploring the city. From the Metropolitan Gymnasium (and from the station entrance at Sendagaya), it feels like a nicer transition from a concrete looking city to the park that just behind the stadium.
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Bear in mind we're judging pictures here (I'm assuming you haven't seen it on site. If you did, ignore me). The experience of Architecture/Landscape in person is pretty dinamic. The perception of scale and the succession of angles and spaces in the way may change your mind completely (it also may not, who knows).
Anyway, I do think this stadium and its sorroundings have the potencial to provide a 'deeply moving' experience, maybe just not in the way most people would anticipate. It seems like we need to be overstimulated and euphoric all the time to 'feel excited about living'. If done right, the japanese way can make us calm the f*** down and appreciate things slowly.

Just wish I had the time and money to visit.
Agree completely. For sure, I am only commenting on what is lying flat on my screen and the real story is in three spatial and one temporal dimension.

Here's hoping that it's dynamic, exciting and awe-inspiring in person.

As for being over-stimulated by architecture, that is hardly the world's problem. Boring, half-assed, cheap and cookie-cutter outnumber interesting 1000 to one and brilliant 10M to one.

More generally, don't confuse being alive with being sedated and half-dead all the time. And don't adhere to a philosophy that glorifies denial and obedience to the wisdom of those who rule over you. Cry when you have to and dance naked in the moonlight as often as you can.

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Old November 21st, 2019, 11:15 PM   #736
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The construction of the stadium will officially be completed on November 30th.


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But being alive can also be about having peace, which is what those halls inspire me, the show is inside and so there people can scream and shout as much as they feel like.

I love this place.
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The construction of the stadium will officially be completed on November 30th.


https://www.shibukei.com/headline/14622/

What will be the first event?
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the old cauldron should have more prominence, not be a simple nondescript element of a garden. The center of a square, with a spiral climb and light a fire during the 2020 Olympics.

postscript:
they tell me privately that they are copies of the Japanese cauldrons with Saporo and Nagano, but I still think that the one in 1964 should have a certain role in 2020.

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