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Old May 6th, 2013, 04:54 PM   #1
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Liverpool Life

I was tuned into a local radio station recently as the presenter asked people to phone in with their 'happy workplace' memories. Cue the procession of callers waxing lyrical about the 'great times' at an Aintree biscuit factory,the joy of spending 39 years on the production line at a paper clip manufacturer's etc.

On the face of it this type of thing could seem like perfect material for a Monty Python sketch. What rescues it from the titter at the factory fodder or the feeling of despair at the humdrum, servitudal existence of fellow human beings, is the triumph of the human spirit. A life spent in drudgery on the factory floor or even the incredible tedium of the office can only be made tolerable by the presence of, and interaction with, other human beings. The shared experience and the sense of camaraderie can help make some of those mind numbing occupations just about bearable.

Liverpool has been more fortunate than most places in this respect, not being a factory town it's inhabitants were historically more free if a little poorer(casual labour) than those in the manufacturing towns,
Anyway, this thread is for images of the city's people,past and present, Mars Bar style- at work,rest and play.


Liverpool Chinatown,1942. Image, Bert Hardy






Cooper's Cafe, Church St, 1932. Pic LRO


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Dockers, Colin Jones


I think this is one of the great Liverpool photos of the 20thc. I first seen this when it featured on the BBC series , Coast,a couple of years ago when the programme focused on the port of Liverpool. The amazing thing about this is when it was taken, it looks like the 1930's but is actually 1962 !




This is another Colin Jones photo of Liverpool dockers taken at the same time as the previous picture. This shows dockers queuing up for a day's work. This was in the days of casual employment on the waterfront, which ended in 1966. In the 1950's the Borough of Bootle had the highest percentage of casual workers in Britain, 28%.

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BT Convention Centre, Simon Kirwan (2008)

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Who cares ? 15 minute documentary about Liverpool in 1971

Everything changes and everything stays the same. More gloomy this one,particularly relevant at the moment with what's going on in Anfield and other parts of the city. Worth staying with it until the end.

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Sophisticated Southport, Lord St,1930

If ever a British thoroughfare was made for cafe society or the boulevardier it was Southport's Lord St. Although the present demographic just doesn't quite fit, zimmer frame avenue maybe.

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Eleanor Roosevelt visits American troops at Stanley Dock tobacco warehouse in 1942 LVRO

The tobacco warehouse was also used as a morgue for the bodies of American troops killed in WW2 before they were shipped back home.

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Cressington Promenade with Sailing Ships in Garston Docks in 1918

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Excellent thread so far and I'm learning, keep it coming.
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Great stuff GV! You are a font of local & historical knowledge.
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The 1911 Liverpool Transport Strike


The 1911 transport strike began as a national dispute involving the seamen's union and their employers. Southampton was the first port to be affected when seamen there struck on June 13th, Liverpool seamen followed the next day and from then on the city of Liverpool would be at the centre of events that would that strike fear into the very heart of the British establishment. As events of the dispute unfolded, that summer in Liverpool would see two rioters shot dead by the army,a gunboat deployed in the mersey , The Times newspaper proclaim there was anarchy of the streets of Liverpool and Lord Derby informing Home Secretary Winston Churchill, that he should 'be aware that a revolution was taking place in Liverpool'

From the outset the seamen's strike was solid. Support came from other workers with a direct interest in the outcome, stokers,ship's cooks etc. The strike was over within a week with the seamen victorious. Sensing their chance of victory, on the 28th of June 4,000 Liverpool dockers came out on strike. The city's south docks were mostly unionised by 1911 but the much larger north dock system wasn't,this was where most of the big steamship companies were based. Unions were banned in the north docks,you could be sacked for just belonging to a union, also because of the casual nature of dock work (everyday in 1911, 20,000 Liverpool dockers would queue in prospect of a day's work) blacklisting was rife. By June 29th 10,000 dockers were on strike, these were joined by thousands of carters(at this time most of the cargo was moved out of the docks on horse-drawn carts) and 2,000 coal heavers,these were the men who heaved coal onto the steamships, one of these striking coal heavers was my paternal great grandfather... A Liverpool Life..

Although this man died decades before I was born,I have been
left with such a vivid account of him by my dad,I could almost
have met him. He was from Co Mayo in the West of Ireland,a man
of large stature, gentle natured, he had a handle-bar moustache
that was always neatly trimmed and waxed....and, he was an Evertonian



Then the seamen came out in support of the dockers who had appointed the most influential trade unionist in the country to head the Liverpool Strike Committee, Tom Mann. Once again the strike was solid and within a matter of days the shipping companies had agreed to recognise the union throughout the Liverpool dock system, the port was now unionised. Encouraged by the victories of the dockers and seamen other port workers came out on strike for better pay and working conditions. Then, the railway workers, within days this had become a national rail strike,local railwaymen's union leaders were brought onto the Liverpool Strike Committee,still led by Tom Mann. The port of Liverpool came to a standstill. Meanwhile, the government had responded to events in Liverpool,Police from Birmingham and Leeds were drafted into the city. By August 12th an extra 2,400 Police were in the city along with 3,500troops including Hussars, by the 17th of August the gunboat, Antrim, was anchored in the mersey. A mass meeting was called by the strike committee for August 13th on St George's Plateau, this would become known as Bloody Sunday. One notable thing about the solidarity of the Liverpool strikers at this time was the unity, if only temporary between Catholic and Protestant;

‘From Orange Garston, Everton and Toxteth Park, from Roman Catholic Bootle and Scotland Road Area, they came. Forgotten were their religious feuds, disregarded the dictum of their clericals on Both sides who affirmed the strike was a atheist stunt. The Garston band had walked five miles and their drum-major proudly whirled his sceptre twinned with orange and green ribbons as he led his contingent band, half out of the local Roman Catholic Band, and half out of the local Orange Band.’ ‘there was a wonderful spirit of humour and friendliness permeated the atmosphere… It was glorious weather when, from a dozen wagons on the Plateau in Lime Street, speeches were being made in support of the railway workers who were asking for an increase of a shilling or two per week.’


Unfortunately the very next day the 14th June a serious sectarian riot broke out in the Great Homer St area that had to be quelled by troops from the Yorkshire Regiment, who made a bayonet charge and fired shots over the heads of the rioters.

As the crowd estimated at 80,000 assembled at St George's Plateau on the 14th of June, a minor disturbance was the excuse the troops overseeing the meeting needed:
Prof Davies, Liverpool University,speaking in 2011,

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"The police attacked the crowd quite unnecessarily, many people were injured, many people were arrested, 186 people were hospitalised, and 96 people arrested," Prof Davies said.

"This created a tremendous outcry in the city.

"Two days and nights of rioting followed with troops on the streets, there were 3,500 troops stationed in Liverpool and a gunboat on the river."

On the 15th of August 90 of those arrested on St George's Plateau were being taken to Walton Prison in vans escorted by 30 Hussars. A large crowd had assembled on the route of the convoy at Vauxhall Rd. As the convoy arrived attempts were made by the crowd to free the prisoners. The troops responded with gunfire, a riot ensued, two men were shot dead and three others suffered gunshot wounds. One of the dead mem, John Sutcliffe, 20, a carter, was shot twice in the head.

The strike continued until the 25th of August when concessions were made to the railway workers.


The Crowd Assembled on St George's Plateau LVRO










Tom Mann Addressing Strikers at Canning Place





Troops on Standby in Hatton Garden in August 1911




An Armed Escort





For me the picture below sums up what the 1911 strike was about much more than images of massed strikers , flags,banners,troops and trade unionists.

Was the unfettered exploitation of the poorest in society to continue in the second richest city in the richest country in the world in 1911.

Liverpool,July 1911, striking workers are entrtained with a game of 'cricket' by local street children


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Yeah, it's our shared history, Paul. A history to be proud of.
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I'd love to see more on sectarianism, political struggles, strikes and community, just some of the things that made this city what it is, whatever that is.
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I'd love to see more on sectarianism, political struggles, strikes and community, just some of the things that made this city what it is, whatever that is.
Exactly, Paul. I'll do something next week on it.
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Interesting thread, fascinating old pictures. Thanks for posting GV.
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Bathers at Seaforth/Waterloo.....'and did those feet in ancient... Yes,mine did Although there was a somewhat more eminent paddler at Waterloo back in the 1850's ,one Friedrich Engels. Advised to take the sea waters as a curative for a malady he had been brought down with while working in his father's mill in polluted Victorian Manchester, Engels went to Waterloo.

Here's an excerpt from a letter he received off Karl Marx whilst recuperating at Waterloo;

[London,] 15 August 1857
Dear Frederick,

I am delighted to hear that the sea is doing you good, as was to be expected. As soon as you are fit enough to bathe, It will take effect even more quickly. Nice one Charlie





The Adelphi Hotel's Resident Orchestra, 1914


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Excellent, I love the old pictures.
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