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Old February 15th, 2015, 08:53 PM   #1
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Edinburgh Marina | Granton | £500m | U/C

Revised masterplan submitted for Granton Harbour, now contentiously rebranded "Edinburgh Marina", with amendments to the planning consents granted in 2009 and 2014.

14/05305/AMC | Approval of matters specified in condition 2 of outline application 01/00802/OUT covering siting and height of development, design and configuration of public and open spaces, access, road layouts, footpaths and cycle routes. | 65 West Harbour Road Edinburgh EH5 1PW







The current masterplan is from Wilson + Gunn Architects, though makes only relatively minor revisions from the 2009-2013 masterplans by ADAM Architecture, who in turn inherited a series of masterplans stretching back to 1998 by architects including Cooper Cromar, Page\Park and Llewelyn Davies.

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The total number of residential units proposed has increased slightly from the previous masterplan to 2000 (though well down from the 3,500 once proposed), and with an increased number of family flats.

With a couple of exceptions, commercial/retail uses are now concentrated in a central complex, adjacent to Granton Square and the proposed tram stop, rather than being spread across the site in the ground floors of residential blocks. Commercial use has increased to 5,000 sq m, comprising a 60 unit "shopping village", an indoor market, a food court and standalone restaurant units. The aspiration appears to be for a "House of Bruar" style attraction, with a focus on Scottish produce and goods, and therefore particularly geared towards visitors. A five storey multi-storey car park would serve both the commercial centre and the marina.



The marina would provide up to 400 berths, a new community boatyard and improved facilities for the Royal Forth and Forth Corinthian yacht clubs. The design statement discusses the possibility of the harbour being used by the proposed Fastlink ferry to Fife and providing a potential cruise ship tender terminal - though the latter seems more likely to end up at Newhaven if recent press reports are true.

The marina hotel would be seven storeys, with 113 rooms, restaurant, cafe and health spa.




Existing and consented development

Three plots have already been developed (plot numbers refer to site plan image above):

Plot 2 - 91 units by Cooper Cromar for Elphinstone Homes
Plot 4 - 133 units (The Anchor) by Cooper Cromar for Gregor Shore
Plot 28 - 120 units by EMA Architecture

Existing development on plot 4 (L) and plot 28 (R)


A further seven plots are in the hands of various developers and have existing planning consents for a total of around 640 units, though at least some of these have since changed hands and planning permissions on others may have lapsed.

Plot 3 - 130 units Cooper Cromar for David Wilson Homes (plot subsequently purchased by Port of Leith Housing Association?)



Plot 7a - 155 units Cooper Cromar for Gregor Shore



Plot 26 - 144 units Cooper Cromar for Taydale



Plot 27 - 120 units Cooper Cromar for Taydale



Plot 29 - 76 units Gilbert Associates for Hart Estates



Plot 30 - 73 units Halliday Fraser Munro for FM Developments (recently on the market again?)



Plot 31 - 97 units Parr Architects for Applecross Properties

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Edinburgh Marina Set to Lead Scottish Marine Tourism Growth

Afloat Magazine - 11th March, 2015

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Edinburgh Marina - the 400 berth marina, residential, retail and spa hotel development that will be the focal point of Granton Harbour's regeneration, is set to be at the forefront of Scottish Marine Tourism's strategic growth, as announced by the British Marine Federation Scotland (BMFS).

The new strategy, announced last week by BMF Scotland at a Glasgow event chaired by MSP Stuart McMillan, aims to grow the total value of Scottish marine tourism by 25%, from £360m to £450m, by 2020.

Just 2.5 miles from Edinburgh City Centre, Edinburgh Marina will accommodate in excess of 320 moorings for boats of all types and sizes.

Kevin Fawcett of Granton Central Developments Limited said: "This is excellent news for Scotland and Edinburgh Marina's key location will make it a vital part of BMFS' strategy – it is in pole position to help grow Scottish Marine Tourism. Edinburgh Marina will be a world-class destination for boating enthusiasts from all over the world. The marina is long overdue for Scotland's capital city – especially a city with such rich marine heritage."

The marina facilities have been designed to put Edinburgh firmly on the charts as a marine destination, whilst creating over 700 new jobs and injecting a £30m boost to the local economy each year - over half of which is projected to come from marine related tourism.

The Edinburgh Marina master plan includes local shopping and leisure facilities, a best of Scotland indoor produce market and a hotel, restaurant & health spa - all essential ingredients in successfully growing Scottish marine tourism in line with the strategy announced by BMF Scotland.
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MDL Consultancy Selected for Prestigious Edinburgh Marina Development

MDL Marinas - 10th January, 2015

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The MDL Consultancy team is delighted to have been appointed by Granton Central Developments Limited to develop plans for Edinburgh Marina – a new 400 berth marina, residential, retail and spa hotel development that will be the focal point of the area’s regeneration – located just 2.5 miles from Edinburgh City Centre.

The work undertaken by the MDL Consultancy team has included carrying out a market appraisal to consider both existing and future demand across all market sectors, and a study of the main competitors – utilising the teams’ many years of expertise. MDL Consultancy then set about studying a number of marina design options, leading to one recommended layout.

Alex Beere, Head of Technical Services at MDL Consultancy, commented: “This is a very exciting project for us and we are pleased to have been selected as marina consultant to Granton Central Developments Ltd. This is one of the first new marinas to be built next to a capital city in many years and we are looking forward to seeing Edinburgh’s new marina unfold and to providing ongoing support.”

The MDL Consultancy team has enjoyed a busy 2014, working on a diverse range of projects for a variety of clients in the UK and abroad. The teams’ services have included project management, marine licensing, expert advice, market studies, feasibility studies, master planning and marina design work.

In 2014 alone, MDL Consultancy received enquiries from all over the world including South America, the Middle East, Africa and the Far East, as well as the UK and Europe.

MDL Consultancy is a division of MDL Marinas Group Ltd, Europe’s leading marina operator. It offers a full service as marina consultants, providing specialist business advice and solutions to clients worldwide in order to maximise commercial potential.

More information on MDL Consultancy can be found at www.mdlconsultancy.com.

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Edinburgh Waterfront Promenade Phase 3 granted planning permission.

15/00238/FUL | Construct new promenade 6m wide approx 400m length with Type 1 sub-base, 50mm DBM Binder Course and 30mm HRA Surface course. | Land 210 Metres West Of 14 West Shore Road Edinburgh
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Popped into the Granton district council meeting last month and it's fair to say there is a lot of resentment with this proposal from the locals:

They say the plans differ from what was shown at the drop in day that the developer had arranged.
They are unhappy with the density and scale of the housing.
There is a lack of green space for children to play.
The local roads will not be able to cope with the increased traffic.
The retail units should be spread through the development rather than concentrated in one part.
Increase in service charges to residents for the upkeep and repair of the harbour area on top of factoring fees and council tax.
There are plans for 11 storey high flats which will block sunlight to other buildings.
A lack of engagement from Granton Central Development.

Also the Scottish Environment Protection Agency have objected the the plans.

A shame really, the harbour or "marina" desperately needs developed.
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Popped into the Granton district council meeting last month and it's fair to say there is a lot of resentment with this proposal from the locals:

They say the plans differ from what was shown at the drop in day that the developer had arranged.
They are unhappy with the density and scale of the housing.
There is a lack of green space for children to play.
The local roads will not be able to cope with the increased traffic.
The retail units should be spread through the development rather than concentrated in one part.
Increase in service charges to residents for the upkeep and repair of the harbour area on top of factoring fees and council tax.
There are plans for 11 storey high flats which will block sunlight to other buildings.
A lack of engagement from Granton Central Development.

Also the Scottish Environment Protection Agency have objected the the plans.

A shame really, the harbour or "marina" desperately needs developed.
Assuming we are talking about local residents within the development area rather than wider Granton area then I'm sympathetic to some of these points - lack of green space, consultation issues, charges etc.

But less so others. It has always been planned to be high density and I think the more recent plans have lowered that a bit? If you choose to live there then it comes with the territory. I don't think spreading the retail around works commercially or for residents. Nowhere is more than 5 mins walk from it.

Agree with you Southpaw, there is a need for progress and momentum there incl the marina itself. And progress will surely be a massive improvement for those island blocks there at the moment.
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Granton Harbour blueprint to be sunk by council

Edinburgh Evening News - 7th August, 2015

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A huge planned transformation of Granton Harbour said to be worth £300 million to the economy looks set to be killed off by the council.

City officials claim the blueprint for the Edinburgh Marina lacks detail, leaves a question mark over affordable housing and fails to make enough of the waterfront location.

They fear that the development – boasting a 120-bed hotel, a 400-berth dock and a swathe of shopping, leisure and retail space – could have a “significant adverse impact” on the city centre and criticised its height and scale.

It is also understood there is a lack of confidence in Granton Central Developments’ ability to fulfil its promises, which include 2000 homes – half the number originally proposed – and 800 jobs. Officials have now recommended the plans are refused when they go before the planning committee on Wednesday.

But developers today accused the council of “killing off” the regeneration, warning that the site could be left “in desolation” for years.

Kevin Fawcett, of Granton Central Developments, said: “Since our plans were first submitted, we’ve had numerous members of the community reach out to express their excitement and gratitude that Granton, a site that has sat empty for so long, will finally come to life – creating a new community, new jobs and affordable housing.

“Yet it appears the council has little interest in regenerating Granton and is more interested in a monopolistic protection of other areas, including the city centre. They are concerned that our plans for a local retail centre will draw people away from neighbouring areas.

“It’s as if they would prefer not to create 800 new jobs.

“Everyone wonders why we’re short of affordable housing these days – here is a prime example of modern-day planning decisions being the root of the problem.

“Once again, it’s the people that will be losing out here.”

Responding to claims that the proposals lacked detail, Mr Fawcett also stressed that it was “just a masterplan” and insisted that concerns “would all be dealt with” at the detailed planning stage.

He added: “Refusal is recommended based on information they don’t have – and that we don’t have, nor are we required to have at this stage.”

Cammy Day, Labour Ward councillor, defended the recommendations, adding: “Of course we want to see the development, but it has to be done alongside the council’s strategic plans for housing, retail and transport.”

George Gordon, vice-chairman of the Granton and District Community Council, added: “We didn’t think the plans were in keeping with the surrounding area and there are a lot of questions around infrastructure. They [the developers] need to start listening to the residents.”
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There's also a comment piece:

Edinburgh Evening News, 7 August 2015
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The threatened collapse of plans to build 2000 homes on Granton Harbour is a blow to hopes of making some fast progress on tackling the Capital's housing crisis.
The developer, who also has plans for a marina, four-star hotel and shopping complex, had raised hopes of work starting this summer on a project said to be worth £300 million to the city.
Yet it now seems highly likely that after years of inaction following the banking crisis the acres of empty land by the Forth will remain dormant for some time longer.
It is not so much the rejection of the plans by city officials that appears to spell the death knell for the scheme. Our councillors have, of course, been known to overrule the concerns of their planning 
officials on occasion.
But the weight of concerns raised by officials and the community, plus a clear breakdown in working relations between the 
developer and local authority, do not bode well.
The regeneration of the Waterfront area remains one of the keys to the city’s future economic success. Everyone wants to see homes and useful facilities there.
For years developers have struggled to make the sums work on a scheme that would deliver for the city and their shareholders. The difficulty in squaring those sums may explain the increased size of the shopping and leisure complex, which is the cause of much concern.
It has to be hoped that the developer and the council can return to constructive talks, but don’t hold your breath.
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Any news on what the decision was for Granton Harbour today? Can't see anything in news about it - seems to have been overshadowed by the St. James Hotel decision!
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Any news on what the decision was for Granton Harbour today? Can't see anything in news about it - seems to have been overshadowed by the St. James Hotel decision!
Decision postponed. The developer requested continuation and further discussion with the council.
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Just noticed that revised proposals for this were submitted a couple of months back but it has already been recommended for refusal by the Development Management Sub Committee so seems destined to fail yet again.

The main sticking point seems to be the large 'retail village' on the SE of the site, which seemingly contravenes the Local Plan by drawing trade to the area. The council want to see a significantly reduced retail provision which would only be sufficient to serve the shopping needs of local residents but the developers seem unwilling to give up on creating a retail 'destination'.

It's probably academic at this point, but here's a summary of the latest revisions:

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• Total number of residential units increased to 2,094;
• Alterations to car parking provision including overall increase to 3,659 spaces;
• Changes to multi storey car park on plot 14 including reduction in height and removal of ground floor health and leisure facilities (relocated to plot 19B);
• Plot 19B provision of amenity and service uses and provision of 8 townhouses;
• Additional 293 affordable housing units accommodated on plot 10A and 13 (plot ‘S’);
• Cycle/pedestrian routes removed from sea wall;
• Royal Corinthian Yacht Club facilities located on Middle Pier;
• Changes including a reduction in amount of open space provision
Revised masterplan



A couple of illustrations of the contentious retail centre on Granton Harbour Road.



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The visuals and all make it look quite market and destinationy - but I suspect the reality would be rather less aspirational and simply attract a few obvious multiples. It dilutes and hinders Ocean Terminal's prospects.
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Surprising news - really thought this was set to be rejected again.

Revised Edinburgh Marina development gets the green light

Practical Boat Owner - 22nd December, 2015

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The City of Edinburgh Council planning committee has granted planning consent to the revised masterplan for Edinburgh Marina the 300-berth marina, residential, retail and spa hotel development.

The scheme will be the focal point of Granton Harbour’s regeneration, just 2.5 miles from Edinburgh City Centre.

Edinburgh Marina is believed to be the first new marina next to a capital city in Europe for several decades, providing a major boost to inward investment in Edinburgh of over £300m.

The Edinburgh Marina development will deliver 2,094 new homes as well as local employment opportunities for up to 800 people, whilst the new masterplan provides for improved marine services, including a community boatyard and improved facilities for the Royal Forth and Forth Corinthian yacht clubs.

The revised scheme also makes provision for the proposed new transport facilities in the area, including the extension of the tram service.

A spokesman for the developers, Granton Central Developments Limited, said:

‘We are thrilled that consent has now been granted for the revised masterplan, due in part to the fantastic support of the local community who we would like to thank for their ongoing support. This is a wonderful Christmas present for the people of Granton, who have been forced to live for far too long with Granton Harbour in its current state.

‘We’re very excited to start working towards bringing Granton Harbour to life.

Find out more at edinburgh-marina.co.uk.


Read more at http://www.pbo.co.uk/news/revised-ed...QHUBxGA85Fg.99
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Application submitted for revisions to the consented scheme for Plot 27, overlooking the West Canal and adjacent to one of the few developed plots.

04/01661/VARY | Non-material variation to 04/01661/REM for alterations to stair cores, the raised podium, balconies and external elevations. . | Land 75 Metres Northwest Of 22 Hesperus Crossway Edinburgh

The original scheme was by Cooper Cromar (pictured in the first post on the thread) but these revisions are by Mosaic Architecture + Design. There are changes to the external materials but the massing and layout remain the same and, as with the original scheme, it will contain 120 units.



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Granton marina development wins planning approval

Invest Edinburgh - 8th February, 2016

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A 300 berth marina, residential, retail and hotel development that will be the focal point of Granton Harbour’s regeneration has won planning approval. We spoke to Granton Central Developments spokesperson Kevin Fawcett…

Why is this development important? How will the local community benefit?

The Edinburgh Marina development will complete the regeneration of Granton and as a result create a new waterfront, residential and leisure destination for Edinburgh, just 2.5 miles from the city centre. It will create a dynamic and inspiring place to live, work and visit – rightfully returning it to being the jewel in Scotland’s historic coastline.

Over 2,000 new homes will be created as part of the development, many of which will be affordable. As well as this, the regeneration will create over 750 new jobs whilst creating a host of opportunities for local businesses to supply goods and services to the various aspects of Edinburgh Marina.

What are its key features?

The marina itself will have best-in-class facilities and berths for 300 boats, as befits a marina serving a capital city. The conference and spa hotel will comprise 125 apartment suites and a meeting and banqueting space capable of accommodating 1,000 delegates – making it one of the largest in Scotland. Attached will be a health, beauty and fitness complex (including an indoor pool) of over 15,000 square feet.

On the residential side, there will be over 2,000 new homes including apartments and houses for rent or for purchase, as well as over 180,000 square feet of retail, leisure and commercial space for residents and visitors.

At its heart will be a number of small units for local businesses, including a “Best of Scotland” covered market showcasing Scottish produce.

Who's behind it? What's the timeline?

The project is being completed by Granton Central Developments, a private investment company. The final stages of planning of the project are still taking place, but it is hoped that work can begin on site in the latter part of 2016.

Various aspects of the proposed residential, commercial, hotel and marina development will then be completed at different stages over the two to three years that follow.

What's your vision?

We want to create a new focal point for the regeneration of Granton and give Edinburgh the world-class waterfront residential district and marina that it deserves.

There is such huge potential here for Granton to once again become a vibrant and prosperous part of Scotland’s capital.

- See more at: http://www.investinedinburgh.com/inv....Zo0z67oG.dpuf
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When the masterplan for Granton Harbour was approved at the end of last year, the 'retail village' was excluded from the decision. The developers have now submitted a revised application for this element of the scheme. Among the changes are all the retail units now facing streets, taller mixed-use buildings facing Granton Square and relocating the multi-storey car park within the retail area rather than on the edge of the site.

16/01273/AMC | Application for approval of matters specified in condition 2 of outline application 01/00802/OUT covering siting and height of development, design and configuration of public and open spaces, access, road layouts, footpaths and cycle routes: Granton local shopping centre Masterplan. | 62 West Harbour Road 11 Granton Square Edinburgh EH5 1PW


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It would be interesting to see whether in the next five years Granton Marina concept could avoid the development disaster epitomized by Western Harbour 'development'.
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Among the changes are all the retail units now facing streets, taller mixed-use buildings facing Granton Square and relocating the multi-storey car park within the retail area rather than on the edge of the site.
*applause*

Should really be the default approach when designing new developments, mind.
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When the masterplan for Granton Harbour was approved at the end of last year, the 'retail village' was excluded from the decision. The developers have now submitted a revised application for this element of the scheme. Among the changes are all the retail units now facing streets, taller mixed-use buildings facing Granton Square and relocating the multi-storey car park within the retail area rather than on the edge of the site.

16/01273/AMC | Application for approval of matters specified in condition 2 of outline application 01/00802/OUT covering siting and height of development, design and configuration of public and open spaces, access, road layouts, footpaths and cycle routes: Granton local shopping centre Masterplan. | 62 West Harbour Road 11 Granton Square Edinburgh EH5 1PW


That's a huge amount of new retail space. I wonder if the area can realistically support it?
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That's a huge amount of new retail space. I wonder if the area can realistically support it?
My thoughts exactly - especially as small units. Although I suppose they can maybe vary that when they get permission to knock units together.
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