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Old April 13th, 2015, 04:02 PM   #1
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Woolwich Regeneration | Greenwich

Given the amount of development going on in Woolwich I thought it made sense to start its own thread:

Royal Arsenal - 1700 (U/C)
Connaught Estate Phase One - 332 units, (site prep)
Mast Quay, Phase 2- 22 floors, 218 units, (site prep)
Mast Pond- 16 floors, 125 units (in planning)
Co-op building - 74 units (U/C)
38 Artillary place - 52 units (in planning)
Woolwich grand - 46 units (site prep)
Cambridge House - 49 units, (U/C)
woolwich magistrates court - 22 units (approved)
Woolwich police station - 19 units (in planning)
33-37 Hare Street - 9 units (in planning)
Rushgrove House - 8 units (approved)
Woolwich Central phase 4 - 550 units (rejected)
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I think the magistrates court may well be almost complete. There's also -

Royal Sovereign House (former offices by lidl) - about 50 flats
Morris Walk estate - decant begun. 696 – 766 new homes eventually
39 Samuel Street - 13 homes. Planning Ref 15/0138/F
Callis Yard - 160 flats. https://fromthemurkydepths.wordpress...ost-count-yet/
Armourers Wharf - 400 flats above eastern end of Crossrail station. Marketing now to start construction in 2018. http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/arti...olwich-station

And the spray street masterplan site but that's at a very early stage. The huge DLR site also had planning permission 6 years ago and the developer has just landbanked. Such a waste of a prime site.
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Old April 14th, 2015, 12:34 PM   #3
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Ah I knew I missed some. So together we have roughly:
Royal Arsenal - 1700 (U/C)
Armourers Wharf - (approved) 400 units - above eastern end of Crossrail station. Marketing now, to start construction in 2018. http://www.crossrail.co.uk/news/arti...olwich-station
Connaught Estate Phase One - 332 units, (site prep)
Mast Quay, Phase 2- 22 floors, 218 units, (site prep)
Callis Yard - 160 flats. (Approved) https://fromthemurkydepths.wordpress...ost-count-yet/
Mast Pond- 16 floors, 125 units
Co-op building - 74 units (U/C)
38 Artillary place - 52 units (in planning)
Royal Sovereign House (former offices by lidl) - 28 units
Woolwich grand - 46 units (site prep)
Cambridge House - 49 units, (U/C)
woolwich magistrates court - 22 units (approved)
Woolwich police station - 19 units (in planning)
39 Samuel Street - 13 units (in planning)
33-37 Hare Street - 9 units (in planning)
Rushgrove House - 8 units (approved)
Woolwich Central phase 4 - 550 units (rejected)
Morris Walk estate - decant begun. 696 – 766 new homes eventually

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Old April 21st, 2015, 12:00 PM   #4
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Spenhill have just applied to extend their outline planning permission for Woolwich Central for another 2 years. I suppose it gives them more time to either amend their application for 550 units that was rejected in March or come up with a new scheme
(http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/11...heme_rejected/)
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Old May 9th, 2015, 05:19 PM   #5
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Some nice flats looking flats in for planning permission alongside Nightingale place:

http://publicaccess.royalgreenwich.g...-01-287401.pdf
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Old May 14th, 2015, 12:40 PM   #6
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Hmm I like the sound of Woolwich City, I think one place in each of the outer boroughs should be designated a "city".
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Greenwich is an Inner London borough


Woolwich-related threads:


Around Woolwich in the past month:


General Gordon Square - Woolwich, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


The Great Harry Pub - Woolwich, London by SE9, on Flickr


Royal Arsenal Riverside - Woolwich, London by SE9, on Flickr


Royal Arsenal Riverside - Woolwich, London by SE9, on Flickr
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Old May 29th, 2015, 08:06 PM   #8
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Consultation to take place 9 & 10 June in Woolwich town hall for a sizeable development on Wellington Street next to the Woolwich Central site.
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Old August 12th, 2015, 11:18 AM   #9
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Demolition has begun at the Callis yard site where there's permission for 152 flats (https://www.facebook.com/Woolwichonl...type=1&theater).
The site was acquired in May by Cordea Savills so the new developers are moving forward quickly.
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Old November 8th, 2015, 07:54 PM   #10
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Woolwich regeneration - Wellington Street

In central Woolwich a couple of small-scale regeneration projects are underway, notably around Wellington Street in central Woolwich. Here's a look down Wellington Street from the east. To the left the town hall clock tower, to the right the 2011 Woolwich Centre (public library and council offices). Bottom right: the Ogilby Housing Society.



Next to the Woolwich Centre, a row of houses and a small apartment building called the ''Ogilby Housing Society'' are now boarded up and ready to be replaced by ... don't know what, anyone has seen plans for this? The 2015 Thomas Street Masterplan talks about room for 87 homes here, as well as a "pocket park" along Love Lane. The scheme does not include the council-owned Limavady House on the corner of John Wilson Street. Here the back of the Ogilby houses, seen from the public plaza behind the Tesco building:



Next to the town hall and opposite the Woolwich Centre, the former Grand Theatre is making place for ... more apartments. I haven't seen a design for this development either. Efforts to give the old building a new life apparently failed. Admitted, the building is slightly lacking in 'grandeur' but demolition seems to me like the opposite of regeneration:



Closer to General Gordon Square, but still on Wellington Street, buildings are being renovated and added to the Island Business Centre, which comprises most of the block occupied by former Woolwich Polytechnic buildings:

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Woolwich regeneration - Bathway Quarter

Wellington Street (see previous post) is part of the Bathway Quarter, an area that is to play an important role in the regeneration of the town centre. It is a well-preserved civic district with mainly late-Victorian and Edwardian buildings. With the general decline of the town, the Bathway Quarter came under threat as well. The demise of the Grand Theatre was briefly mentioned above (it survived the 1990s and 2000s as a nightclub). In 2001, the University of Greenwich vacated the entire block between Thomas Street and Polytechnic Street; the university's drama department maintains a small presence in the former Public Baths (closed since 1982) in the heart of the historic district. In recent years several public services closed down or moved elsewhere: the Public Library, the Magistrates' Court and the Police Office. The latter two buildings will be converted to contain 22 and 19 apartments respectively. Together with the Grand Theatre site, 90 new homes are planned in the quarter (source: South East London developments). Furthermore it is hoped that the area will develop into an attractive neighbourhood with galleries, artists' studios, cafes and nightlife (Woolwich Town Centre Masterplan (2012), p.33).


Bathway. To the left: former Public Baths (University of Greenwich). To the right: back of the Old Public Library. Far end: former Police Station


Bathway. To the left: former Magistrates' Court (to be converted into apartments). To the right: Public Baths. Far end: Woolwich Polytechnic


Polytechnic Street. To the left: Polytechnic buildings (now Island Business Centre). To the right: the Old Town Hall


Calderwood Street - Market Street with the Old Public Library and the former Magistrates' Court
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Old November 11th, 2015, 05:31 PM   #12
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Woolwich regeneration - Powis & Hare Street Triangle

In the 2012 Woolwich Town Centre Masterplan a lot of attention is given to the so-called Triangle, the area between Powis Street, Hare Street and Woolwich High Street. Powis Street was once described as the Oxford Street of Woolwich. It had 4 department stores, was home to the first UK branch of MacDonald's and the birthplace of the co-op movement as well as chain stores like Dolcis (shoes). Parking meters were introduced here first in any suburban London area. It was also the first street in the UK to adopt Christmas lights, after Regent Street (I didn't make this up; it's all in the 516 pages of the Survey of London's volume on Woolwich). Anyway, the street has been in decline since the late 1960s - the last department store, M&S, closed down last year - but is still described as "something increasingly rare, a crowded high street, with all the noise and mess that the middle-class tourist always takes for 'vibrancy', but which could just as easily be desperation" (Survey of London, Vol. 48, p. 189).


Powis Street, then (ca 1900) and now (2015)

Co-op buildings
The west end of Powis Street was always the commercially weaker end of the street, even though two large Co-op stores were built here in the early 20th century. The late-Victorian Central Stores of the Royal Arsenal Co-operative Society (RACS) was renovated in 2012 and is now a Travelodge Hotel with retail spaces at street level. Across the street, the conversion of the former RACS department store into 74 apartments is nearly completed. I wonder how well these apartments have sold. Three slightly setback storeys - not visible from the street - have been added above the art deco facade. A whole new building was added to the rear.


The two Co-op buildings: RACS Central Stores (from the rear) and RACS department store


Unlet shops at the Travelodge Hotel


Art deco department store as seen from Powis Street


Same building from a distance

Mortgramit Square
A megalomaniac scheme for a hotel on this site that involved large-scale demolition has been abandoned (too many plans for hotels in my opinion - Spray Street and DLR over-station developments include hotels, whilst the construction of a hotel along Beresford Street is being halted). For the time being Mortgramit Square, a network of winding alleys that connect Powis Street, Hare Street and Woolwich High Street, is saved. The art deco RACS building and some new apartments behind Hare Street are looking out onto this street.


Access to Mortgramit Square via RACS department store


Rear of former department store


New apartments in old building backing onto Mortgramit Square

Hare Street
Hare Street, like Powis Street, has been hard hit by the general decline of Woolwich since the 1960s. Once a busy shopping street leading directly to the Woolwich Foot Tunnel, it is now largely derelict and cut off from the river by the ghastly 1980s Waterfront Leisure Centre. Greenwich Council intends to re-open the view of the Thames from Hare Street by re-locating the Leisure Centre to General Gordon Square/Wilmount Street.


Current view from Hare Street


Renovation of locally listed buildings, Hare Street 27-35

Granada Cinema
The former Granada Cinema on the corner of Powis Street and Woolwich High Street is a listed building with a spectacular Gothic interior. It is mentioned in the Woolwich Town Centre Masterplan as a building that, along with the adjacent Mortgramit Square, could be developed as an entertainment hub. That is not going to happen because shortly after the masterplan was published the cinema, then a bingo hall, was bought by a Pentecostal church with lots of money. It may not be the kind of regeneration that some would envisage but the church has undoubtedly taken care of the building, as could be witnessed last September during Open House London.
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Given the amount of development going on in Woolwich I thought it made sense to start its own thread:
(...)
Cambridge House - 49 units, (U/C)
Some of these projects are probably finished by now. I took these photos in September:





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Given the amount of development going on in Woolwich I thought it made sense to start its own thread:
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Rushgrove House - 8 units (approved)


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A small project that wasn't mentioned above:
  • Bloomfield Road/Frederick Place - 10 units?

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Kleon,thank you for your updates - I for one am finding them really interesting, I had preconceptions of Woolwich and it's great to actually get some knowledge of the area and see the vast potential it has. A tight urban grain with views of the Thames and restored heritage buildings seems the right way to go.
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honestly, his posts make me want to move to woolwich
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Thanks guys
Woolwich has a long way to go, but, as with many journeys, to be on the road is more fascinating than to have arrived.
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That looks good. Plus an application was submitted in October to convert a building on Wellington St to 60 flats.
Planning app: 15/3405/pn2
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That looks good. Plus an application was submitted in October to convert a building on Wellington St to 60 flats.
Planning app: 15/3405/pn2
Is that the one on the corner with John Wilson Street?

Another small-scale project. They've added a bit to an existing building on Woolwich Common. The new wing contains apartments for senior citizens.



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Old November 12th, 2015, 02:25 PM   #20
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I site visited all these yesterday for work, looked like you did too. BTW Cambridge House is now complete.
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