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Old April 11th, 2017, 10:10 AM   #1
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Heard some grapevine chat yesterday that the owners of the block between Steads Place and Jane Street Leith have started issuing two year notices to their tenants. The eventual plan is to demolish that entire strip and build new commercial and this time, residential units too.

Quite a few implications here obviously. Existing businesses will be out, which will be a tragedy for places like Leith Depot who have really brought something to the area only having recently established themselves. I also hear that the European market next to the Depot that has only just opened has signed a ten year lease on their unit so god only knows what they are thinking.
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It's part of the Leith Conservation Area and the existing building isn't identified as of any interest, while leith Walk is described as being tenemented. Expect a blandstone replacement as found further up the walk.
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Old April 11th, 2017, 12:11 PM   #3
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I quite like that block. In a fantasy world, I'd like to see it redeveloped to a masterplan alongside the sheds behind it. Retaining the street frontage building with some sort of imaginative extra floor extension or somesuch that offers business accommodation (a bit like now) on upper floors rather than residential. Cheapish flexible commercial space on a thoroughfare. If the sheds behind it were residential then fair enough.
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Heard some grapevine chat yesterday that the owners of the block between Steads Place and Jane Street Leith have started issuing two year notices to their tenants. The eventual plan is to demolish that entire strip and build new commercial and this time, residential units too.

Quite a few implications here obviously. Existing businesses will be out, which will be a tragedy for places like Leith Depot who have really brought something to the area only having recently established themselves. I also hear that the European market next to the Depot that has only just opened has signed a ten year lease on their unit so god only knows what they are thinking.
Interesting. A development brief was drawn up in 2008 - Stead's Place/Jane Street Development Brief - which I believe is still the most current guidance for the site. Obviously the residential development of Area B on the minimap below is well underway and it doesn't exactly follow these design principles...

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Old April 11th, 2017, 02:21 PM   #5
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A quick check of companies house shows that company that holds the property and thus the leases is going through an insolvency event.
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I guess that means Cyrenians food depot will get booted too? If it is a struggle for them to find similar accommodation for their depot then that will be a real shame, especially when so many people are increasingly dependent on their services.
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Old April 11th, 2017, 03:32 PM   #7
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This is the part I am unsure of. I don't know if they also own the units up the back, you would assume so though.
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I'm surprised that block isn't listed. I think I'm right in saying it was built by the Caledonian Railway as offices in front of the goods yard, which was part of their ill-fated "New Lines" project.

Photos here:

https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenla...e.php?id=18453

https://www.railscot.co.uk/imageenla...e.php?id=11120

I wonder if they have any plans on removing the embankment and remains of the viaduct? As this is part of a bid to reintroduce the bridge across Leith Walk:

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...idge-1-3696340
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A quick check of companies house shows that company that holds the property and thus the leases is going through an insolvency event.
That would explain the recent change of Landlord then.. as mentioned by the "The Depot" Restaurants post.

https://www.facebook.com/leithdepot/...84725644898774
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I also hear that the European market next to the Depot that has only just opened has signed a ten year lease on their unit so god only knows what they are thinking.
I had heard none of the Units had a lease past the end of 2019..
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Heard some grapevine chat yesterday that the owners of the block between Steads Place and Jane Street Leith have started issuing two year notices to their tenants. The eventual plan is to demolish that entire strip and build new commercial and this time, residential units too.
Looks like Drum Property Group are the new owners driving the redevelopment. They've added a project page on their site - though no detail yet.

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Drum purchased a development opportunity at Stead’s Place on Leith Walk, Edinburgh in the Spring of 2017, which includes a medium-sized industrial estate that sits behind a row of shop frontages on to the Walk. Drum has a proven track record of working together with local communities, and delivering sensitive regeneration projects across Scotland. The project in Leith represents a major opportunity to introduce a significant mixed use development in a thriving City Centre location.
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Drum submits application notice for Leith Walk

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Drum Property Group is in the early stages of developing proposals for a mixed-use development at Stead’s Place, Leith Walk, and has submitted a Proposal of Application Notice to Edinburgh City Council.

The site in Leith represents a major opportunity to revitalise an important part of the city, and potentially create a mix of affordable housing, innovative post graduate student accommodation, hotel facilities for visitors to the city, and retail space for the benefit of local retailers and the community.

The plans for the affordable housing will be developed in partnership with Places for People, with the University of Edinburgh operating the post-graduate student accommodation, which will also incorporate a hotel and restaurant / café. It is also proposed that the Leith Walk frontage of the new development will provide space for local retail, business and community uses.

Graeme Bone, Group Managing Director, Drum Property Group said:

“Our vision for the site at Stead’s Place is to provide welcoming, inspirational and distinctive spaces for use by local residents, post graduate students and the wider public.

We believe that developing purpose built affordable housing, retail units, a hotel and post graduate accommodation on this conveniently located site on Leith Walk will help alleviate housing pressures in the local area and provide a boost for inward investment in Leith that will help sustain community facilities and create additional opportunities for local business, maximising the potential for additional future investment in the area.”

We are keen for both local organisations and current tenants along the frontage to Leith Walk to contribute as we develop our plans. We look forward to working with City of Edinburgh Council and local community groups as we work towards preparing a detailed planning application for the site.”

The first public exhibition outlining plans for the site will be held at Out of the Blue Drill Hall on 23rd and 24th March 2018.
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Sounds like quite a major mixed use scheme.

I'm hoping this doesn't mean demolition of the long red sandstone frontage onto Leith Walk. Prefer to see that building have a glass floor or two added or somesuch. As University has done done on George square.
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PAN submitted for the Stead's Place scheme. Project architects are Halliday Fraser Munro, which doesn't inspire me with a lot of confidence.

18/01015/PAN | Demolition of existing buildings and erection of a mixed use development including affordable housing (flats), post graduate student accommodation, hotel (Class 7), restaurant (Class 3), space for potential community (Class 10 & 11), retail (Class 1), public house or commercial uses (Class 2 & 4). Includes associated infrastructure, landscaping and car parking. | 156, 158B, 160 And 162 Leith Walk Edinburgh EH6 5DX



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12-8pm 23rd March & 12-5pm 24th March 2018

12-8pm 4th May & 12-5pm 5th May 2018

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Leith’s only music venue to be demolished for student housing

Edinburgh Evening News - 13th March 2018

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It transformation in recent years has seen it regularly cited as one of the hippest places in the UK.

But now the only dedicated live music venue in the Leith area is set to be demolished to make way for a student housing and hotel development.

Leith Depot, which hosts gigs almost every night of the week, is one of several businesses expected to be affected by a multi-million-pound development project.

The Drum Property Group, the firm behind the scheme, which former Hibernian FC managing director Fife Hyland is a director of, had lodged early plans with the council which it says will “revitalise an important part of the city”.

A huge swathe of land at Stead’s Place, including Leith Depot, was snapped up last year by the Drum Property Group, which wants to replace existing buildings with a “mixed-use development”.

Leith Depot, which also operates as a bar and restaurant, opened less than three years ago on the site of a bar which had the worst record for police call-outs in the city, but has become one of its most thriving live music venues.

The Drum Property Group is set to snap up an another artists’ hub, St Margaret’s House, in the Meadowbank area, also for student housing.

It says that the Leith Walk development will create “a mix of affordable housing, innovative post-graduate student accommodation, hotel facilities for visitors to the city, and space for the benefit of local retailers and the community”.

It plans to join forces to with Edinburgh University to create the student accommodation, which it says will also “incorporate a hotel, restaurant and café”.

A statement from Leith Depot said: “We are aware of the planning application notice that has been published for the block that we are other businesses are located in.

“Our lease will come to an end in 2019 and we’re now speaking to our landlord to figure our what options are available to us.”

But the developer insists units facing onto Leith Walk will be available for local businesses and community groups, with existing tenants, who include Punjabi Junction, the Leith Walk Cafe and The Bed Shop, offered the chance to return after two years.

Managing director Graeme Bone said: “Our vision is to provide welcoming, inspirational and distinctive spaces for use by local residents, post-graduate students and the wider public.

“Developing purpose-built affordable housing, retail units, a hotel and post-graduate accommodation on this conveniently located site will help alleviate housing pressures in the area and provide a boost for inward investment in Leith that will help sustain community facilities and create additional opportunities for local business, maximising the potential for additional future investment in the area.

“We are keen for both local organisations and current tenants along the frontage to Leith Walk to contribute as we develop our plans.

“We look forward to working with the city council and local community groups as we work towards preparing a detailed planning application for the site.”

Morvern Cunningham, co-founder of the Leith Creative network, said: “This site is already a welcoming, inspirational and distinctive space housing a number of important community assets.”

Leith councillor Gordon Munro added: “Once again we see money taking precedence over place in Leith. A good venue and a good social enterprise will have to start all over again.

“Students are welcome in Leith but surely we can design better places for them to live in than these off the shelf- designed rabbit hutches.”

Plans for the new development have been lodged months after a Scottish Government-backed report on Leith revealed growing discontent about the local businesses and residents being priced out of living and working in the area.

Among the concerns were the impact of recent student housing developments, “ill-conceived and badly executed” developments, and soaring property prices.

The prospect of Leith Depot being replaced by student housing has emerged in the wake of the closure of several city centre venues due to neighbouring developments, including Electric Circus, Studio 24 and Silk.


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As expected, some local antipathy to this development. https://m.facebook.com/saveleithwalk/
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Big time
Mostly around the usual thing:
"Students are taking up housing that should be build for me and my poor working class pals" *violin plays*
Also though, the hotel component seems to be "just for family and friends of the students" - which some folk say is a cop out!
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Big time
Mostly around the usual thing:
"Students are taking up housing that should be build for me and my poor working class pals" *violin plays*
Also though, the hotel component seems to be "just for family and friends of the students" - which some folk say is a cop out!
I’m wondering when we will reach ‘student housing’ saturation point in Edinburgh. Currently it appears to be the key driver for any new development in the city. On the positive side, a lot of former HMO properties are on the market as large family homes.
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Stead’s Place: pre-application consultation on demolition of existing buildings and erection of a mixed use development (18/01015/PAN)

https://leithcentralcc.co.uk/2018/03...-18-01015-pan/
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I’m wondering when we will reach ‘student housing’ saturation point in Edinburgh. Currently it appears to be the key driver for any new development in the city. On the positive side, a lot of former HMO properties are on the market as large family homes.
I think a recent council report estimated that just under 40% of the city's student population live in purpose built accommodation so saturation point point is probably still some way off.
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