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Old June 29th, 2005, 01:51 AM   #1
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Old June 29th, 2005, 01:56 AM   #2
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Belgrade, 28th June 2005

New "Ikarbus" buses presented to LUV-Braca Sarac, one of Belgrade's most recognized private bus operators. Braca Sarac ordered 65 new buses, contract worth about 7.5 million euros.



Belgrade, June 14th 2005
Promotion of new domestically built tourist boat - initially proposed under the plan "Metro on Water" , a new Belgrade transportation system that would include 150-200 such boats, eight cable car systems/lines and a number of buses to transport millions of passengers daily more efficiently.

The boats are equipped with all the latest latest gadgets, radars and night-navigation system.


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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:01 AM   #3
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Krakow received 12 (out of 32 ordered) new small buses from Polish company Jelcz.

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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:03 AM   #4
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BTW, awesome idea for a thread, Docent! We needed something like this.
Impressive looking little buses
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:09 AM   #5
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Photos of some recently renovated local trains, wich are connecting Warsaw with other towns and cities mainly in Mazovia :







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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:12 AM   #6
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BTW, awesome idea for a thread, Docent! We needed something like this.
Impressive looking little buses
EE cities are investing more and more in public transport, so I thought it would be interesting to observe and compare the changes
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:15 AM   #7
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Yep
Btw, does Warsaw have these private bus operators or is that only Belgrade's problem?
(ok, some companies are good and operated modern buses, but most...lol)
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:21 AM   #8
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City of Novi Sad to recieve twenty-five low floor buses from "Neobus" (another domestic company) Last bus to be delivered by mid-August this year

U AD „NEOBUS”
Radi se nadogradnja šasija za gradske autobuse

Krajem maja, AD „Neobus“ isporučiće prvi od 25 autobusa koliko je na tenderu dobilo da nadogradi na šasijama proizvođača „Volvo“ za potrebe Gradskog saobraćajnog preduzeća „Novi Sad“, za šta je novac izdvojen iz budžeta grada. Direktor preduzeća Borko Lukač kaže da će poslednji autobus biti završen do prve polovine avgusta, a da će do tada firma isporučivati neprekidno autobuse kako ih završi.



- Najteži deo posla je okončan, jer je urađena tehnička dokumetacija, nabavljeni rezervni delovi, oprema i materijal. Sada može da krene serijska proizvodnja, pošto su u međuvremenu na prvom autobusu isprobani i usaglašeni svi poslovi, pa će, kako posao bude odmicao, biti potrebno dan- dva za nadogradnju - napominje Lukač i navodi kako je ovaj posao za gradskog prevoznika dobra preporuka za „Neobus“, jer je Gradsko saobraćajno preduzeće „Novi Sad“ raspisalo tender za izradu 20 solo i 20 zglobnih autobusa.
- Autobusi na šasijama „Volvoa“ biće niskopodni, neće imati stepenice, kao što većina autobusa u gradskom prevozu sada ima. U zadnjem delu biće malo povišeni zbog motora i imaće plitko tapacirana sedišta. Predviđa se od 22 do 28 sedišta - precizira Lukač.
Napominje da je većina delova za autobuse iz uvoza, pošto naručilac posla zahteva visoke standarde i garanciju od šest do 12 godina. Zbog toga su sve delove koji su kvalitetniji od domaćeg kupili na stranom tržištu.
Uz ovaj posao, „Neobus“ završava jedan autobus za Republiku Srpsku, a treba da radi još nekoliko za domaće kupce iz Bora i Kostolca.
- Na tenderu smo dobili posao za reparaciju sedam autobusa za prevoznika iz Pančeva. U toku su pregovori i za izradu dva mini busa za JP „Vrbas“ u Vrbasu - kaže Lukač.
„Neobus“ je privatizovan u oktobru prošle godine, kada je na aukciji firmu za oko 58 miliona dinara kupio biznisnem iz Saudijske Arabije Alaa Mahgraba Mohamed Ali, u čijem je voznom parku dve hiljade autobusa.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:24 AM   #9
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New trains for planed SKM line (fast Warsaw metropolitan train line) under construction.





Trains are constructed by the PESA company (Polish company from Bydgoszcz).

this is how they should look like after const:



here You have map, on which You can see how the first SKM line will look like:

map by @Petr:

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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:29 AM   #10
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Quote:
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Yep
Btw, does Warsaw have these private bus operators or is that only Belgrade's problem?
(ok, some companies are good and operated modern buses, but most...lol)
he, he
I think I know what You are talking about - I mean public transport in Warsaw is owned by the city, however there are many private bus routes, which are connecting Warsaw with some smaller places and towns outside the city.

And Yes - most of the buses owned by those private operators does not look very modern
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Old June 29th, 2005, 02:39 AM   #11
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Belgrade's new Belkommunmas trolley's, made in Belarus. Serving well
















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Warsaw ordered 80 new 'long buses' from Polish company 'Solaris'.

First of them should appear in the city later this year.

They will look the same, like the ones, which were bought by Berlin :

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New low-floor tram built by Croatia consortium of Rade Koncar, Gredelj and Djuro Djakovic companies. Supposed to enter service later this year. Seventy have been bought by City of Zagreb, but its just an initial contract. In the end, three times as much may operate on streets of Zagreb.



















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Warsaw metro announced today, that the last stations of the first line should be ready by the end of 2007.

In 2008 the const of the second line will start and by the end of 2011 first 7 stations (in the middle) of the line will be ready

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photos of new Warsaw WKD (light railway) train:


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Warsaw

since May, we have new tourist atraction in Warsaw- horse driven tram:






Tourist tram line T will be operating during the summer weekends:








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Tram from Zagreb looks impressive!
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Tram from Zagreb looks impressive!
and they are, they have quite a few gadgets inside and out, you'd think it is gone all sci-fi, lol, and it is first tram to actually have working air-conditioning inside, tram has interior and exterior camera system so driver can ce situation all over the place, back of the tram and sides which is crucial for such a large tram, it is 32m long, 2.3m wide, and can carry 200 passengers....

Tram is offered on various gage systems and few foreign customers have already asked for specs and are interested for the tram, city of Sofia has already showed interest.



I think it would be great if Wroclaw or Warsaw get it to, they are quite cheep , only 2.5 million CIF and manufacture can deliver up to 36 trams per year.

I think Gdansk could also benefit from this trams..
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I agree its gorgeus, why buying expensive bombardier when you can have such a great tram for so little
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I agree its gorgeus, why buying expensive bombardier when you can have such a great tram for so little

forgot to mention Sofia is interested for 3 section version as this trams are for to long for Sofia's streets and they want something up to 25m length. Zagreb has always had long trams, old ones where about 40m long - 3 car trams built by Duro Dakovic factory in Croatia way back in 60's, but this are primarily built by Knocar although Duro Djakovic is responsible for boogies. Gradelj another constrictor is responsible for exterior and final assembly rest of it is done by Koncar industries....

And for comparison, Bombardier trams Krakow got (50) cost over 3.5 million per tram. OK all of it financed by EU structural founds but still, way to much, for similar tram from Skoda you'd need to cuff up 3.3 million and for Simmens trams (which have hip of technical problems) you'd need to put aside no less than 4million US$. for French Astolm and Italian trams slightly less, only 3.75 million but they look nice and similar in design features to Cro-Tram..


Older Koncar Trams - entered service 1998 - 2000, only 17 entered service but they also look nice



this are very old trams which new trams are replacing, as you can ce it is fine time for change, lol....
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