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Old July 6th, 2006, 06:28 PM   #901
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I do not have a clue when Scouser will be going next. If you want to speak to him you could use the forums /contact me in this site Click Here
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Old July 6th, 2006, 08:00 PM   #902
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if he is a liverpool fan that is really amazing,because he is taking pictures for us the arsenal fans.really amazing not many people would do such a thing...and is he travelling all the way from liverpool to london every time he makes pictures or he is living in lodon
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Old July 6th, 2006, 09:24 PM   #903
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lives in luton if i remember correctly
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Old July 7th, 2006, 02:04 AM   #904
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cheap version of "Estadio da Luz"
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cheap version of "Estadio da Luz"
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Old July 7th, 2006, 09:53 AM   #906
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cheap version of "Estadio da Luz"


Don't know how many times these facts have to be repeated:

1. Emirates was designed first.
2. Da Luz was a copy of Emirates.
3. At £357 million, hardly a cheap stadium.

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It's now been a week or so since a pic update from Dave.... is he still alive?! Poor showing if Arse.con beat him to the punch, showing pics of the seat covers off ;-)

We're expecting good things on the next update Dave!!!
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Old July 7th, 2006, 11:31 AM   #908
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Don't know how many times these facts have to be repeated:

1. Emirates was designed first.
2. Da Luz was a copy of Emirates.
3. At £357 million, hardly a cheap stadium.

can you back up the first 2 facts???

you know,considering da luz was built well before emirates (3 years). hardly solid grounds to claim da luz is a copy of a smaller,only just finished stadium is it?

if anything emirates is a shrunken copy of da luz...and i imagine every commentator will refer to that fact during the upcoming season
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Old July 7th, 2006, 11:46 AM   #909
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anyone know what the crane pictured on the webcam
is meant to be doing? emailed Dave yesterday but as
yet no response,so left to do me thinks is as follows.
1,install advertising boards around the stadium.
2,complete dugouts.
3,finishing off the concourses.
4,having a bloody good clean up.
oh anyone know if the megastore is still being worked on!
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Old July 7th, 2006, 12:05 PM   #910
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can you back up the first 2 facts???

you know,considering da luz was built well before emirates (3 years). hardly solid grounds to claim da luz is a copy of a smaller,only just finished stadium is it?

if anything emirates is a shrunken copy of da luz...and i imagine every commentator will refer to that fact during the upcoming season
Emirates was in fact designed at the back end of 2001, and images of it were shared in 2002. The original plan was that Arsenal would move there in 2004, but endless planning and funding disputes have pushed the project back two years.

That is fact, and I can confirm that it was designed before the new Estadio Da Luz.

You like to get in the fact that it's smaller, don't you? 5,000 smaller - whereas our new stadium will hold 24,000 more than Shite Hart Pain. And even though Benfica's stadium holds a bit more than ours, our matchday revenue will be the highest in world football. That's another fact.
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Old July 7th, 2006, 01:00 PM   #911
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anyone know what the crane pictured on the webcam
is meant to be doing? emailed Dave yesterday but as
yet no response,so left to do me thinks is as follows.
1,install advertising boards around the stadium.
2,complete dugouts.
3,finishing off the concourses.
4,having a bloody good clean up.
oh anyone know if the megastore is still being worked on!
Re the megastore, or 'The Armoury' as it will be called, I assume it's full steam ahead. It's supposed to be opening in the week leading up to the Bergkamp testimonial, so they should be getting close to finishing it.
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Old July 7th, 2006, 02:26 PM   #912
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Anyone looking at the webcam ATM can you tell me what is located at the area cirled in green in the pic below. It is right next to the players tunnel.


Sorry about the small pic but for some reason photobucket has shrunk my image
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Old July 7th, 2006, 02:58 PM   #913
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i've been wondering that myself, it looks like something is poking out of the tunnel. I can only think it is something to do with the dugouts, but cant think what!
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Old July 7th, 2006, 03:43 PM   #914
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Emirates was in fact designed at the back end of 2001, and images of it were shared in 2002. The original plan was that Arsenal would move there in 2004, but endless planning and funding disputes have pushed the project back two years.

That is fact, and I can confirm that it was designed before the new Estadio Da Luz.

You like to get in the fact that it's smaller, don't you? 5,000 smaller - whereas our new stadium will hold 24,000 more than Shite Hart Pain. And even though Benfica's stadium holds a bit more than ours, our matchday revenue will be the highest in world football. That's another fact.
SHUT THE **** UP! SHUT UP!!!!!

Both as bad as each other. Anyway Emirates is better than WHL but stop this silly oh its bigger, oh shite hart pain, oh we'll have more money Just incase you didn't know RCEG Tottenham have spent a staggering £20m and only early July. Stop this silly banter it happened for ages between me (THFC), Sitback (AFC), JimB (THFC), Roar (AFC). Its silly and there is just no point in saying silly things about another club. I don't think there was a need to say Tottenham had spent £20m but hey I did and some times when I did say stuff like that it would start a silly tag-team match of hand bags.

Spud stop the stupidity. This is a forum to talk about stadia I admit that I hate the Woolwich as much as the next man but I still think their stadium is class. If I (who ruined thread after thread) can realise that then maybe you can.
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Old July 7th, 2006, 04:05 PM   #915
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I still think their stadium is class
Thanks for admitting it. As for all this 'poor version of La Luz' I've never heard more b*llocks. Yes it's ever so slightly smaller, but the exterior and facilities are head an shoulders above it. And any other British club stadium.
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Old July 7th, 2006, 04:09 PM   #916
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Emirates was in fact designed at the back end of 2001, and images of it were shared in 2002. The original plan was that Arsenal would move there in 2004, but endless planning and funding disputes have pushed the project back two years.

That is fact, and I can confirm that it was designed before the new Estadio Da Luz.
da luz's Inauguration: 25 October 2003, lets be very conservative and say it took them 18 months to build it then add to that the design process....i'd put that before "the back end of 2001".


consider this though, both were designed by HOK,both emirates & luz are basically the same, is it not beyond the realms of possiblity that it's the same stadium..but made to meet the different requirements wanted by the customer..arsenal wanted 60k & benfica wanted 65k, i'd bet da luz doesn't have half the corporate facitlites emirates has which is why one cost £79million and the over £300million...

in fact you can trace the HOK design all the way back to the reebok,


as for the size.....which i could care less about as it matters.

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is that something to be proud of???? you are being charged more than anyone else....you london folk must be loaded
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Old July 7th, 2006, 04:22 PM   #917
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consider this though, both were designed by HOK,both emirates & luz are basically the same........ which is why one cost £79million and the over £300million...
Yes, both were designed by HOK Sport. The whole project is costing Arsenal £379million, with the stadium coming in at £260m. Included in this is the cost for design.

Taking into account the hugely inflated construction costs in London, this still is quite a difference in cost. Yes Emirates has a lot of executive facilities, but it's the facilities for the ordinary fan which also pisses over Estadio da Luz. All seats upholstered, apparently very comfortable - you'd expect these to cost a lot more than your normal cheap plastic. Catering facilities and concourses will be a lot better from the pics I've seen (of both stadiums).

Even so, still a huge difference in cost. The design part would have cost Arsenal an arm and a leg, so does the fact Estadio da Luz cost so little suggest that HOK provided them with a ready made plan?

Short of getting someone from HOK to confirm timelines, we could go on about this all day. Fact of the matter is, we're ending up with a top quality stadium which will bring in a whole load more cash for the club. Who cares if it's smaller than Benfica's stadium?

You're implying that Arsenal saw Benfica's completed stadium and thought "ooh, that looks nice - we'll have that". Which is, of course, completed rubbish.
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SHUT THE **** UP! SHUT UP!!!!!

Both as bad as each other. Anyway Emirates is better than WHL but stop this silly oh its bigger, oh shite hart pain, oh we'll have more money Just incase you didn't know RCEG Tottenham have spent a staggering £20m and only early July. Stop this silly banter it happened for ages between me (THFC), Sitback (AFC), JimB (THFC), Roar (AFC). Its silly and there is just no point in saying silly things about another club. I don't think there was a need to say Tottenham had spent £20m but hey I did and some times when I did say stuff like that it would start a silly tag-team match of hand bags.

Spud stop the stupidity. This is a forum to talk about stadia I admit that I hate the Woolwich as much as the next man but I still think their stadium is class. If I (who ruined thread after thread) can realise that then maybe you can.
this is forum for the new stadium of Arsenal FC and nothing else for so you tottenham son of a bitch can get the hell out of here and gloat somewhere else!!!
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Spud stop the stupidity. This is a forum to talk about stadia I admit that I hate the Woolwich as much as the next man but I still think their stadium is class. If I (who ruined thread after thread) can realise that then maybe you can.
what you talking about you pleb....i think we're exploring the important origins of HOK stadium design...i'm comparing one stadium against another..
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Yes, both were designed by HOK Sport. The whole project is costing Arsenal £379million, with the stadium coming in at £260m. Included in this is the cost for design.

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Taking into account the hugely inflated construction costs in London, this still is quite a difference in cost. Yes Emirates has a lot of executive facilities, but it's the facilities for the ordinary fan which also pisses over Estadio da Luz. All seats upholstered, apparently very comfortable - you'd expect these to cost a lot more than your normal cheap plastic. Catering facilities and concourses will be a lot better from the pics I've seen (of both stadiums).
Even so, still a huge difference in cost. The design part would have cost Arsenal an arm and a leg, so does the fact Estadio da Luz cost so little suggest that HOK provided them with a ready made plan?

Short of getting someone from HOK to confirm timelines, we could go on about this all day. Fact of the matter is, we're ending up with a top quality stadium which will bring in a whole load more cash for the club. Who cares if it's smaller than Benfica's stadium?

You're implying that Arsenal saw Benfica's completed stadium and thought "ooh, that looks nice - we'll have that". Which is, of course, completed rubbish.

c'mon......don't quote me and then edit it to suit??

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Taking into account the hugely inflated construction costs in London, this still is quite a difference in cost. Yes Emirates has a lot of executive facilities, but it's the facilities for the ordinary fan which also pisses over Estadio da Luz. All seats upholstered, apparently very comfortable - you'd expect these to cost a lot more than your normal cheap plastic. Catering facilities and concourses will be a lot better from the pics I've seen (of both stadiums).
thats the answer to the reason for the difference in price...not the fact asrenal paid for the designs and benfica didn't....

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You're implying that Arsenal saw Benfica's completed stadium and thought "ooh, that looks nice - we'll have that". Which is, of course, completed rubbish.
far from it.. i'm implying arsenal went to HOK with a spec list and HOK adapted a previous design......or of course visa versa...
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