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Old January 28th, 2007, 05:43 AM   #221
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Here some great aerial views of Philips stadium
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Old February 17th, 2007, 12:15 AM   #222
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in tomorows local nieuws papier (dagblad van het noorden) the possible expansion of the euroborg of not 4000 but 20000 making it a 40000 stadium!!!!
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Old February 17th, 2007, 11:11 AM   #223
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This morning in the Dutch newspaper, Dagblad van het Noorden,

FC Groningen wil stadion verdubbelen

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Groningen -
Amper een jaar nadat FC Groningen is verhuisd naar de Euroborg, wil de club het stadion al weer fors uitbreiden. De club gaat voor een verdubbeling van de huidige capaciteit, een stadion van 40.000 toeschouwers. Mocht dat om wat voor reden dan ook een onmogelijke zaak zijn, dan zinspeelt de club op termijn op een – noodgedwongen - vertrek uit de Euroborg.

Algemeen directeur Hans Nijland: ”We zitten nu al aan de grenzen van onze groei. De wachtlijsten voor zowel de gewone toeschouwers als voor sponsors worden al maar langer en langer.”

Eredivisie

De uitbouw naar een voetbalarena voor 40.000 toeschouwers is volgens Nijland nodig om op lange termijn een voorname rol in de eredivisie te kunnen blijven vervullen. In een Euroborg met de huidige capaciteit is dat volgens hem onmogelijk.

Of een grondige verbouwing er ook daadwerkelijk van komt, is nog maar de vraag. Ben Veenbrink, directeur van de NV Euroborg, is in principe niet afwijzend maar vraagt zich af of het allemaal wel mogelijk is. ”Afgezien van het financiële plaatje, zal onderzocht moeten worden of het technisch wel kan.”

Onderzoek

Inmiddels heeft FC Groningen al aangedrongen op een haalbaarheidsonderzoek. Nijland: ”Wij gaan voor een onafhankelijk onderzoek zonder mitsen en maren vooraf, dus met een onbevooroordeelde insteek.”

Frank de Vries, wethouder van ruimtelijke ordening in Groningen, reageert gereserveerd op de plannen. ”Het is altijd goed als FC Groningen nadenkt over de toekomst op lange termijn

we zullen zien/ We shall see

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Old February 17th, 2007, 11:26 AM   #224
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Translation, they are seriously thinking about extanding from 20 to 40 000
but it is only thinking at this moment so no renders and stuff at this moment.
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Old February 17th, 2007, 06:57 PM   #225
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With all the planns for new stadiums in the Netherlands we would have a nice list of stadiums if they would go on:

Feyenoord Rotterdam 75 000
Ajax Amsterdam 65 000
FC Groningen 40 000
FC Twente Enschede 36 000
AZ Alkmaar 36 000
SC Heerenveen 30 000
NAC Breda 20 000

+ the allready exsisting
PSV Eindhoven 36 500
Vitesse Arnhem 27 500
FC Utrecht 24 500
Roda JC Kerkrade 19 200




Sorry I see I am repeting myself, that's not my fault, that's because they don't construct fast enough!!!!
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Old February 17th, 2007, 10:05 PM   #226
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that render is a joke of someone else lad...
I don't think they can make it. 35.000 would be far more than enough. and would the world cup 2018 come to the Netherland (I doubt that) than it is stil possible to look for 5.000 or 10.000 seats extra. this is crap, farmers aren't that much ambicious I thought.
it's nice how it is now. 19.000 on a capacity of 20.000 each game. do it in steps. FC Groningen isnt a club that keeps a level for a long time. if the results are falling the supporters arent comming anymore
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Old February 18th, 2007, 11:19 PM   #227
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I guess Groningen is looking towards their big concurrent SC Heerenveen, who also want 40,000. I think it's better when Groningen extends to 24,000 firstly next summer, and later on, when the demand is still huge, to construct a third tier, so they will have about 35,000 seats.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 12:48 AM   #228
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How will they expand to 24k? Move the seats closer to eachother? I'm assuming mostly cosmetic improvements, seems like too much of a hassle to compromise the current set-up for a mere 4k increment in capacity.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:56 PM   #229
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How will they expand to 24k? Move the seats closer to eachother? I'm assuming mostly cosmetic improvements, seems like too much of a hassle to compromise the current set-up for a mere 4k increment in capacity.
They are thinking of extending the stands more towards the field which would create about 4 000 seats more. I think this is a good idea. Closer to the field is more atmosphere!!!
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Old February 19th, 2007, 08:00 PM   #230
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that render is a joke of someone else lad...
I don't think they can make it. 35.000 would be far more than enough. and would the world cup 2018 come to the Netherland (I doubt that) than it is stil possible to look for 5.000 or 10.000 seats extra. this is crap, farmers aren't that much ambicious I thought.
it's nice how it is now. 19.000 on a capacity of 20.000 each game. do it in steps. FC Groningen isnt a club that keeps a level for a long time. if the results are falling the supporters arent comming anymore
So your not ambicious either, little boy from Purmerend near to Amsterdam...........................................??????????????

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Old February 20th, 2007, 12:18 AM   #231
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So your not ambicious either, little boy from Purmerend near to Amsterdam...........................................??????????????

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little boy, wait untill I stand in front of you. 1.90m high
hey, it is'nt ambicious, apeldoorn is big by the way. that 'near to Amsterdam' is for the internationals over here. I did'nt expect any locals from our country.
by the way, if I stap in a bus that, drives here every 5 minutes, i'm standing in 25 minutes in the centre of Amsterdam. in many other countrys it is impossible to do that even if you live in the capitol.

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Old February 20th, 2007, 12:57 PM   #232
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Well, he has a point. Calling people farmers when you yourself live in a haven of provincialism...
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Old February 20th, 2007, 01:14 PM   #233
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scaP187 Doesn't the Ajax stadium already exist ?.....on your list??? I live in Melbourne Australia and visited this stadium in 2000.
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It does but it currently has a capacity of about 52,000.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 06:45 PM   #235
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Well, he has a point. Calling people farmers when you yourself live in a haven of provincialism...

actualy i'm from Onderdijk. thats a village above Hoorn. I moved to where i'm now a decade ago. but i've explained it already why I have that 'near to'. avoiding questions, not to be a wannabe following the man from the veluwe...
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 06:17 PM   #236
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actualy i'm from Onderdijk. thats a village above Hoorn. I moved to where i'm now a decade ago. but i've explained it already why I have that 'near to'. avoiding questions, not to be a wannabe following the man from the veluwe...
Sorry but calling people from the city of Groningen farmers, while you come yourself from the village of Purmerend (or wurse). t made me laugh, but that is good for my health. Don't worry about, it will happen to me one time too.
me myself, I am from the village of Apeldoorn, which is still twice as big as Purmerend, but who gives a s...! The main thing is that you said that farmers shouldn't be that ambitious, why not, farmers from Eindhoven have been saving pride for the Netherlands for about the last 5 years.

I like clubs with ambition, big or small, because I like (bigger) stadiums.
So if Ajax want to go to 65 000, I respect that. If Feyenoord wants to go to 75 000, same goes for AZ, Twente and in this case Groningen.
I am in support of a strong as possible Dutch competition.

Any way you explaind it, I understand! (I am from Apeldoorn, near to Arnhem!)

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Isn't it so that in the upper ring in the corners, it is allready diffecult to see the nearest by corner. It is only just possible.
Don't get me wrong the views in the Arena at this moment are perfect, but if they realy want to put an extra tear on top of it this will mean the tears sloop will be even more steeper.
MOP the steeper the better, but a lot of people not join my view on this I think.
Also if you expand with about 10 000 the tear will be rather small.
So it would be better to make the exsisting second tear bigger so they can go on with the same sloop.

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2nd tier is about 34°
bernabeu 3rd tier is 41°
so a 3rd tier could be possible
But i don't know hao it would work with the roof
it would be the first expansion of a stadium with a Retractable-roof
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new Feyenoord stadium proposal
capacity 72,000
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That is not really a proposal made by Feyenoord but rather by an architect alone. Feyenoord is seriously thinking about a new stadium with a capacity of 70,000 though.

About the Arena, they will investigate if they can somehow lift up the roof to make room for a third tier (or more likely, an extension of the second tier).
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 04:22 PM   #240
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Isn't 72'000 a bit too much for Feyenoord
They have an average attendance of about 40'000 this year.
And I guess Amsterdam Arena will remain the 'national stadium'.
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