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Old October 4th, 2006, 06:50 AM   #1
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USA Sprawl Festival continued: Buffalo

Link to the first thread in this series:
USA Sprawl Festival

Or, click on the following links to see just individual cities in that thread:

Kansas City
Some northern Denver suburbs
Albuquerque
Seattle
Las Vegas
Dallas-Fort Worth
Some western & southern Minneapolis suburbs
Orange County, California
Philadelphia
Tucson
Orlando
Northern Virginia/DC
Cleveland
Houston
Northern Atlanta suburbs
Indianapolis
Long Island, New York
Jacksonville
Boston

And the 2nd round ones:

Phoenix-East
Phoenix-South
Phoenix-North
Phoenix-West
Portland
Silicon Valley
Los Angeles
San Bernardino County
San Diego - south
San Diego - north

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BUFFALO

Oh yeah . . . Buffalo!!!



When I was going through Windows Live Local to do this, it looked like Buffalo had more sprawl under construction than did Boston!

Let's take the train to Buffalo. Lots of trains to choose from.














Go Bills!




Yay! A trailer park!


This was down near Hamburg, I think.


NOT sprawl. I thought I'd put this here so you could compare it with the actual sprawl.




The requisite mall.




Again, not really sprawl - maybe. Just for comparison purposes. Though it's not as dense as the other one above.


This has nothing at all to do with sprawl, and it's not even in the US. I just put it here cause it's such a cool picture!




Since this is Buffalo we're talking about, gotta include a couple factories.


Another factory.


New stuff under construction.


Some more recently-built stuff.


A grid, but definitely sprawl.


This was waaaay far out to the east.
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Old October 5th, 2006, 03:15 AM   #2
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that rail photo is sick!
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Old October 5th, 2006, 06:36 PM   #3
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gotta love the BUF!
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Old October 22nd, 2006, 07:24 PM   #4
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You’ve done another excellent job of compiling photos. Niagara Falls, Ontario looks great in shot 17. I didn’t realize the extent of suburban sprawl in Upstate New York (especially Rochester) before perusing the Windows Live Local site..and I grew up directly across the lake in southern Ontario.
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Old October 23rd, 2006, 12:00 AM   #5
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Buffalo's sprawl seems much nicer, older.
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Old October 23rd, 2006, 05:21 AM   #6
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thats what happens when the city in the metro makes some very costly mistakes.

sprawl is bad no matter what city you are talking about...southern cities are horrid, so I don't feel too bad.

Buffalo trains, oh yea...and the Bills stadium (thats during a game!) lol
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Old October 26th, 2006, 02:12 PM   #7
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Much of the Buffalo metro's "sprawl" dates to the 60s and 70s, hence it tends to be a bit more gridded and less "loopdy-doopdy" like residential sprawl nowadays. Examples being Cheektowaga, West Seneca, parts of Hamburg, and especially Tonawanda/Kenmore. Of course that's not to say there's not plenty of the latter format, any looks to Amherst, Clarence, Lancaster, Orchard Park, or the remainder of Hamburg would prove that it's alive and well here unfortunately.

That train picture...looks like perfect desktop wallpaper for a railbuff. Almost makes you dizzy looking at it!

I'm trying to recognize where these pictures are, and it's difficult - sprawl can do that. But I can pick out a few, for instance the Galleria Mall and the Ford Stamping plant. And the trailer park I'd say is in Hamburg south of the Ford plant. The 7th picture I think is along Central Avenue in Lancaster. That's about it.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 02:43 PM   #8
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Still waiting for the Milwaukee edition.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 05:48 PM   #9
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Suburban Buffalo's sprawl is generally not as dense as many other cities. Relatively large lots are the generally thye norm and not the exception to the rule.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 05:55 PM   #10
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Truly impressive !
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Old October 27th, 2006, 12:46 PM   #11
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I'm dumbfounded by your ignorance.

For one, I thought you anti-sprawl types were in favor of trains? Now you rip Buffallo for having lots of rail lines? Unbelievable.

And I'm sorry if the trailer park picture is not to your taste. Not everyone can afford a $200,000 warehouse conversion loft downtown.

Oh yes, and that picture with Niagara Falls is partially in the U.S. The right side is NY State.
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What is it that suburban people have against trees?


I second the train thing. It is a cool image but it is not sprawl
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Old November 8th, 2006, 09:46 PM   #13
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What is it that suburban people have against trees?
- Often, woodland is bought from a timber company, who owns the rights to the trees. They cut all the trees down before development to sell the timber.

- Or the developer sells the timber

- Or the trees have problems. I can't speak for Buffalo, but in the Southern states you generally DON'T want to have pine trees in your yard, for various reasons.
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What is it that suburban people have against trees?
Also, developments like this are often built on farmland, which doesn't have any trees to begin with.
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Old November 9th, 2006, 03:59 AM   #15
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Great photos, some of the pics are just beautiful.
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Still waiting for the Milwaukee edition.
That's coming next.
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What is it that suburban people have against trees?


I second the train thing. It is a cool image but it is not sprawl
Would you expect 30 year old trees to sprout up over night at these houses? Houses built on former farms never have trees. Most trees get cleared out so cement trucks and construction trucks have room to work. This is the case anywhere, not just in sprawl. Look at old photos of the large stately houses in Buffalo right after they were built, and I bet you won't see many trees.
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Old November 9th, 2006, 10:07 PM   #18
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Nice photos. Thanks!
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Old May 12th, 2007, 07:45 PM   #19
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buffalo sux
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Great pictures, but those places look dead and boring, I would never be able to live in a suburb, I would kill myself of boredom...
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