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Old June 6th, 2009, 11:43 AM   #1401
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Wouldn't that probably require the same amount of trains anyway.. or at least similar.

I hope they make all trains 6 car if they are going to do this I won't like it if they are all 3 car still with the reduced frequency :@

Fremantle/Midland should be 10mins offpeak I think.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 02:25 PM   #1402
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I can't believe this. I catch this train heaps and the cutback cannot be blamed on poor patronage. When the line first opened, trains were heading to the city during the day. After a year and a half, those same trains are now much busier with more than half seats taken after canning bridge. Outbound trains are quiet but who cares if the inbound service is attracting passengers?

I suppose nothing surprises me anymore with this government.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 02:55 PM   #1403
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Is there any truth in this claim?

http://www.busaustralia.com/forum/vi...481746#p481746
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Well guys, how bout we put it this way. The Whitfords to Cockburn shuttles out side of peak periods rarely carry many people (except maybe between perth and canning bridge for the curtin bus connections). I did 3 today and i was lucky to be carrying about 20 people on at any one time. I would have thought that running a roughly 7 min headway between trains in off peak where the demand doesn't warrant it is a Waste of Money???????
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Old June 6th, 2009, 03:51 PM   #1404
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I admit that when I take the cockburn train I can often get the carriage to myself BUT

The headway isn't 7 minutes. Its uneven with a bias against the cockburn train (so it captures less passengers). I also find the bus services tended to be early.. so a lot of the time bus connections would make it in time for the Mandurah Train.

While the services aren't dead, they are well used and can be better utilised if they had of changed the poor timetabling.

They should have tried improving bus services to encourage people to take offpeak PT rather than cut services. Its hard for many people with hourly buses and no parking left :/ Stupid stupid Liberals.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 05:11 PM   #1405
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Not sure about the Mandurah line, but the northern line is fairly full at any time of the day from what I've seen.
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Old June 6th, 2009, 05:17 PM   #1406
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Clarkson Line is always busy. Mandurah Trains are busy, and usually the Cockburn train. But patronage can be encouraged... but cutting services is the easier way out -__-
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Old June 7th, 2009, 04:22 AM   #1407
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surely more people would turn to public transport as their car becomes more expensive to run?
Normally, that would be the case, but with the mining industry hurting, perhaps there have been lay offs at those companies CBD offices?
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Old June 9th, 2009, 05:55 AM   #1408
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Poor decision by the government-not surprised given the Liberal track record on public transport.
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Old June 11th, 2009, 05:09 AM   #1409
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Not sure if its been posted before but have people noticed the advertising signage in Perth Underground and Espanade Stations, in the ticket halls and on the platforms? It's 18 months since the Mandurah line opened and I guess Transperth thought it wise to wait until people familiarise themselves with their own signage instead of confusing people with advertising. Remember, one should never underestimate the stupidity of the general public!
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Old June 11th, 2009, 08:16 AM   #1410
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Are you talking about the Transperth advertising or the ones in the little box things? I think the on platform advertising isn't very noticeable... They should have it on the walls behind the tracks. Imagine a few big screens along there with a few ads playing continuously!!
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Old June 11th, 2009, 10:24 AM   #1411
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the ones in the little box things. Yes they should have advertising on the walls behind the tracks. In London they've started using projectors above the platform onto the walls for 'live' advertising.
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Old June 11th, 2009, 10:27 AM   #1412
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Ooh projectors would be cool. Anything to put some colour on those horrible grey walls.
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Old June 11th, 2009, 02:18 PM   #1413
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I'm surprised Transperth has waited until now to start advertising in stations. I'm sure they are a little money earner. Projectors sound really good! Low maintenance (just the projector), and they can put in whatever ad they want, whenever they want.
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Old June 11th, 2009, 05:11 PM   #1414
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gotta luv projectors in underground stations, in Australia i think the only place we have them would be at Town Hall station in Sydney. But in Europe they're everywhere, some of the German underground systems have them playing ads but when the train is about to arrive it puts up a warning that the train is arriving, i thought that was pretty cool.
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Old June 13th, 2009, 11:44 AM   #1415
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gotta luv projectors in underground stations, in Australia i think the only place we have them would be at Town Hall station in Sydney. But in Europe they're everywhere, some of the German underground systems have them playing ads but when the train is about to arrive it puts up a warning that the train is arriving, i thought that was pretty cool.
Melbourne has ''underground stations'' too, 3 in fact...
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Old June 13th, 2009, 11:53 AM   #1416
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Indeed we do mate, but he was referring to ones with projectors for advertising

I think some of the other Sydney CBD stations have them too, like at Wynyard and Martin Place. I like seeing advertising boards for some reason, they look better than plain grey or tag-covered walls.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 09:59 AM   #1417
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I think some of the other Sydney CBD stations have them too, like at Wynyard and Martin Place. I like seeing advertising boards for some reason, they look better than plain grey or tag-covered walls.
Most (every?) underground station with advertising had them. But when the advertising boards were replaced most were removed. They're pretty ancient now anyway.

At somewhere like Central underground where the platforms are close together, they'd interfere with each other too. So you could get a destination announcement on top of a safety announcement on the PA then two sets of SBS World News playing all at the same time. Wonderful.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 10:21 AM   #1418
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http://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au...?ItemID=132051

Some interesting figures in this media release, including:

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About 60 per cent of Transperth users travel on concession fares
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less than 30 per cent of the cost of providing the service is recovered through fares
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More than 63 per cent of travel is by SmartRider.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 06:43 AM   #1419
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I'm sure the ratio on the trains for concession fares is much lower, as would be the ratio during peak periods.

What is being picked up in that stat is all the school and uni students taking the busses along with the pensioners with no other means of transport.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 10:42 AM   #1420
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Adelaide also has ~60% of passengers using concession tickets. I think it's to be expected with coverage and frequency like Adelaide and Perth have.
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