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Old January 19th, 2012, 02:34 AM   #5581
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The END of France (as of June 2011).

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Old January 19th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #5582
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MEXICO - USA about 3500 km long
Tijuana - San Diego

This is the traffic in Mexico (almost all the picture) going to USA (at the bottom of the picture)


This is from USA going to Mexico





Natural border Mexico - Guatemala about 1,300 km long, Suchiate River
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Old January 19th, 2012, 11:05 AM   #5583
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There is no fence on both Russian and Ukrainian border, only Belarus put up one, but only os some sections.

Even though, it is unwise to step into Russian or Belarussian territory "just for fun" or you may end up being locked up for a night.
I once left illegally the Schengen area. It was in 2006 and we were hiking in the mountanis near Cividale del Friuli. We walked few meters inside Slovenia (border was\is marked by borderstones) and then back to Italy. In that period the worst who could happen was a fine, but my father told me that someone who did the same in 1979 was detained for a week in Koper and was released only after the interference of the Italian embassy in Belgrade. He couldn't visit again Yugoslavia until its breakup in 1991. There were rumors that the government of People's Federal Republic of Yugoslavia used to pay extra money to their border policemen if they managed to capture someone entering illegally (often for mistake) in their territory.
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Old January 19th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #5584
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Other pics of Baarle Hertog\Baarle Nassau:




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Between Herzogenrath (D) and Kerkrade (NL)


Restaurant across the SLO-HR border (external EU border!)

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yellow line is the border





The photo that everybody who visit Gorizia take:


This is the island of Saint Martin\Sint Marteen in the Caribbeans, split between France and the Netherlands. The island isn't part of Schengen area but there aren't border checks between the two areas. On the French side they use €, while on the Dutch one they use the Guilden of Dutch Antilles, although € is also accepted. Both sides also accept the US dollar.

There is a legend about this border: in 1648 a Frenchmen and a Dutchmen were taken to a beach of that island and they had to run along the shoreline until they will meet again. The line between where they started and where they will meet would be the border. But the Dutchmen was drunk so he couldn't run fast, so the Dutch part is smaller than the French one.
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Old January 19th, 2012, 11:29 AM   #5585
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After WWII the village of Claviere, Piedmont, Italy, was cut in 2 parts by the new Italian - French border (near Monginevro pass). In 1975, with an agreement between the two countries the border was changed leaving the entire village in Italy.

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Old January 19th, 2012, 01:42 PM   #5586
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There is a legend about this border: in 1648 a Frenchmen and a Dutchmen were taken to a beach of that island and they had to run along the shoreline until they will meet again. The line between where they started and where they will meet would be the border. But the Dutchmen was drunk so he couldn't run fast, so the Dutch part is smaller than the French one.
Or the Frenchmen did not run along the coast. He cheated and went straight to the other side of the island .
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Old January 19th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #5587
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Those B-NL pics are amazing ! I wonder how the addresses of these people & shops look, & where they pay their taxes ? In both countries ??? Double taxation ?

& about the HR-SLO restaurant: looks like despite the prohibition from the Croatian side, customers from both sides come, right ? & of course, the same question as the first (address ? Tax paying ?)

There was a similar situation with an Austrian guy whose house was partly on the Czech side. After years fighting double taxation, he destroyed the part of his house that was on the Czech Republic - fed up with years of procedures going nowhere !
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Old January 19th, 2012, 11:14 PM   #5588
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Do people from both sides come at that restaurant in Croatia/Slovenia? If yes, how is it done. There are still border checks between this 2 countries.
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Old January 19th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #5589
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Do people from both sides come at that restaurant in Croatia/Slovenia? If yes, how is it done. There are still border checks between this 2 countries.
Probably not very well enforced
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Old January 20th, 2012, 06:52 AM   #5590
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This is the island of Saint Martin\Sint Marteen in the Caribbeans, split between France and the Netherlands. The island isn't part of Schengen area but there aren't border checks between the two areas. On the French side they use €, while on the Dutch one they use the Guilden of Dutch Antilles, although € is also accepted. Both sides also accept the US dollar.

There is a legend about this border: in 1648 a Frenchmen and a Dutchmen were taken to a beach of that island and they had to run along the shoreline until they will meet again. The line between where they started and where they will meet would be the border. But the Dutchmen was drunk so he couldn't run fast, so the Dutch part is smaller than the French one.
Interesting here is that the Dutch side is currently in the process of joining World Zone 1 for telephone numbering purposes. When all is complete later this year (scheduled for September), their phone numbers will change from +599 to +1-721, using the same country code and number pool as Canada, the USA and several other places in the Caribbean.

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Old January 20th, 2012, 01:41 PM   #5591
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Those B-NL pics are amazing ! I wonder how the addresses of these people & shops look, & where they pay their taxes ? In both countries ??? Double taxation ?

& about the HR-SLO restaurant: looks like despite the prohibition from the Croatian side, customers from both sides come, right ? & of course, the same question as the first (address ? Tax paying ?)

There was a similar situation with an Austrian guy whose house was partly on the Czech side. After years fighting double taxation, he destroyed the part of his house that was on the Czech Republic - fed up with years of procedures going nowhere !
What do you mean by prohibition from Cro side?
That is croatian restaurant (owners are from croatia) but entrance is from SLO. You need valid passport or ID to enter restaurant because strict Schengen enforcment. Address is croatian, they're paying croatian tax.

From time to time people make a reservation for table and than call later to cancel it because someone doesn't have valid ID.

And many people from ex-Yu are coming to that restaurant because it was one of the best restaurant in all ex-Yu. Ex-owner knew many people from outside so many foreigners also coming in this restaurant
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Old January 20th, 2012, 01:52 PM   #5592
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I don't understand why Cro and Slo don't agree to a slight modification of the borders. I bet Slo will not be affected by the loss of 50 sq meters of territory...
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Old January 20th, 2012, 02:31 PM   #5593
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I don't understand why Cro and Slo don't agree to a slight modification of the borders. I bet Slo will not be affected by the loss of 50 sq meters of territory...
Border disputes between SLO and HR (not only here but also near the coast) have been the main obstacle towards Croatia's EU membership.
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Old January 20th, 2012, 02:41 PM   #5594
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I don't understand why Cro and Slo don't agree to a slight modification of the borders. I bet Slo will not be affected by the loss of 50 sq meters of territory...
We Balkans always need someone from outside to solve our problems. Border disputes are now on Arbitral Tribune with one Croatian, one Slovenian and I think 3 European expetrs in
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Old January 20th, 2012, 03:15 PM   #5595
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Border disputes between SLO and HR (not only here but also near the coast) have been the main obstacle towards Croatia's EU membership.
I know, especially the domestic/international sea corridor problem. But this one about one house should be no obstacle. First remove the non-problems, then you can go on to the serious issues...
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What do you mean by prohibition from Cro side?
That is croatian restaurant (owners are from croatia) but entrance is from SLO. You need valid passport or ID to enter restaurant because strict Schengen enforcment. Address is croatian, they're paying croatian tax.

From time to time people make a reservation for table and than call later to cancel it because someone doesn't have valid ID.

And many people from ex-Yu are coming to that restaurant because it was one of the best restaurant in all ex-Yu. Ex-owner knew many people from outside so many foreigners also coming in this restaurant
You sure this is Croatian restaurant? On http://www.slovenia.info/?gostilne=3453&lng=2 they have Slovenian address, also company is in Slovenian business register: http://www.bizi.si/BLAZENKA-KALIN-S-P/
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Old January 20th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #5597
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Some other euroborders, between...

...Ponte Tresa and Ponte Tresa:



...Fornasette and Fornasette:



...St Gingolph and St Gingolph:



There are many other split or twin towns, sometimes with a similar name, sometimes not: Chiasso-Ponte Chiasso, Gorizia-Nova Gorica ("New Gorizia"), Baarle Hertog-Baarle Nassau, Genève-Annemasse, Frankfurt am Oder-Slubice, ...
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Old January 20th, 2012, 06:04 PM   #5598
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You sure this is Croatian restaurant? On http://www.slovenia.info/?gostilne=3453&lng=2 they have Slovenian address, also company is in Slovenian business register: http://www.bizi.si/BLAZENKA-KALIN-S-P/
That's how Croatia expand's
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Old January 20th, 2012, 06:22 PM   #5599
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Some other euroborders, between...

...Ponte Tresa and Ponte Tresa:



...Fornasette and Fornasette:



...St Gingolph and St Gingolph:



There are many other split or twin towns, sometimes with a similar name, sometimes not: Chiasso-Ponte Chiasso, Gorizia-Nova Gorica ("New Gorizia"), Baarle Hertog-Baarle Nassau, Genève-Annemasse, Frankfurt am Oder-Slubice, ...
Guben/Gubin, Cieszyn/Těšín etc
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Old January 20th, 2012, 07:26 PM   #5600
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You sure this is Croatian restaurant? On http://www.slovenia.info/?gostilne=3453&lng=2 they have Slovenian address, also company is in Slovenian business register: http://www.bizi.si/BLAZENKA-KALIN-S-P/
true. but their backyard is in Croatian register
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