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Old November 24th, 2007, 03:27 AM   #101
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Yes, in low skilled economic fields...

average salary in Bucharest especially is close to 2.000 EUR

guys I please you all if You write something or quote ...always backup with link because other way is just... kinda of someone said that so that must be true
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Old November 24th, 2007, 12:09 PM   #102
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guys I please you all if You write something or quote ...always backup with link because other way is just... kinda of someone said that so that must be true
When I said 'close to EUR 2000', I meant the IT&C sector (that's why it was in brackets by the IT comment).

Unfortunately, there's no public data for this, and I'd have to buy the Pay Well study by PWC to show you the official data, but I tell you what I know from friends in the field.

If you want to know more about incomes in Romania, pls read this news report from the Romanian Curierul National:

PwC: Net average salary in Romania grew by 22% over past year

The value of the net average salary increased by 22% over the past year, as against the previous year, the biggest growths being registered in IT, financial-banking and human resources sectors, reads a study conducted by PricewaterhouseCoopers, made public on Thursday.

According to an analysis of the salary evolution over the recent years, conducted by consulting company PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC), the minimum gross salary grew by 18% over the previous year, while the net average income grew by 22%.

By region, the highest salary increase was registered in Bucharest and in the Banat-Transilvania area, where the employees' income grew by 20%. On the second place form the point of view of salary increase is Muntenia, by 18%, and on the last place Moldova, by 17%.

The study also shows the sector that registered the biggest salary increases was IT, where the salary of a project manager grew by 20%, and that of a programmer by almost 30%.

The IT sector is followed by the financial one, which registered 14% salary increases. According to PwC representatives, over the past year, a spectacular growth was registered in the salaries of the human resources specialists, which grew by 14 to 19%, according to the position held.
At the same time, in comparison with the past years, the study also reveals a drop in the difference between various management categories. Thus, if in 2004 the differences between salaries could exceed 50%, the difference went down to 21%.

With reference to the net average salary in economy, the study shows that, as regards managers, they gain over 11 times the value of the average salary. Specialists gain, on an average, a salary of three times the average salary, while beginners with higher education gain, on an average, a salary 1.6 times higher than the net average salary.

Compared to some countries in Central and East Europe (the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary) salaries in Romania are approximately 20-30% lower, but the last year registered an 18% growth against the 4.9% inflation ratio. Salaries in the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary registered a growth of 2 to 4.3%, at an inflation ratio similar to the one in Romania, the PwC study also shows.

The "PayWell Romania 2007" study, conducted by PricewaterhouseCoopers, comprises salary data provided by 187 companies from 13 activity sectors (pharmaceutical, industrial, information technology, automobiles, banking etc).



http://www.curierulnational.ro/In%20...over+past+year
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Old November 24th, 2007, 12:10 PM   #103
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average salary in Bucharest especially is close to 2.000 EUR
You are kidding, aren't you? The average salary in Romania is, I guess 300 EUR (what is the lowest salary in EU together with Bulgaria) and the average salary in Vienna us 1800 EUR. I think I will come to work to Bucharest
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Old November 24th, 2007, 12:44 PM   #104
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You are kidding, aren't you? The average salary in Romania is, I guess 300 EUR (what is the lowest salary in EU together with Bulgaria) and the average salary in Vienna us 1800 EUR. I think I will come to work to Bucharest
Hey, kidding, normally
Seriously now, when I meant close to 2000, I referred to IT&C-Bucharest, which is kinda out-of-the-ordinary among other cities and other sectors:

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But, once you have investments in car factories, mobile phones, software production (average salary in Bucharest especially is close to 2.000 EUR)
But I used this just as an argument against the idea that investors choose only cheap workforce...and I argued that skills are essential rather. Many IT companies choose Bucharest against Mumbay because people here are a lot skilled at IT than IT's in Mumbay (and i do not want to mention the difference in incomes between Bucharest and Mumbay).

But to mention only the average salary in Bucharest, this year is the first time when it topped EUR 1.000.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 01:19 PM   #105
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So, you mean that 2000 EUR is the average salary in IT industry? Anyway, can you please give a link or another source? I would like to see it and compare it with Bratislava, for example, otherwise nobody will believe you.

edit: I guess that is the average salary of the top managers and the members of parliament
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Old November 24th, 2007, 02:23 PM   #106
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So, you mean that 2000 EUR is the average salary in IT industry? Anyway, can you please give a link or another source? I would like to see it and compare it with Bratislava, for example, otherwise nobody will believe you.

edit: I guess that is the average salary of the top managers and the members of parliament
I managed to find something:

By @PayScale:

Median Salary by Industry - City: Bucharest (Romania)
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Old November 24th, 2007, 02:46 PM   #107
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Very interesting website and interesting data. I found this about Bratislava:





But I cannot imagine to have 72 000 USD per year, it is impossible, imo.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 03:59 PM   #108
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Very interesting website and interesting data. I found this about Bratislava:





But I cannot imagine to have 72 000 USD per year, it is impossible, imo.
What do the numbers stand for? Average employee in a sector, manager etc?
Your table does not say that...
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Old November 24th, 2007, 04:13 PM   #109
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Very interesting website and interesting data. I found this about Bratislava:





But I cannot imagine to have 72 000 USD per year, it is impossible, imo.
Wizzard, go ask for a raise!
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Old November 24th, 2007, 04:45 PM   #110
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In any case, these tables are very interesting. It seems that every city has the different tables with different data.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 04:54 PM   #111
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I cant find the hungarian name of this job you were discussing,but in 2006,the average wage of someone working in the computer sciences field earned 336121HUF(~1,300EUR).
source(hungarian):
http://www.foglalkoztatas.hu/index.php?mzpage=listaber
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Old November 24th, 2007, 04:57 PM   #112
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Old November 24th, 2007, 05:13 PM   #113
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Man, we're talking salaries here..are you paid in chiks?? Not that bad, I must admit.
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Old December 1st, 2007, 02:30 AM   #114
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Dark astral conjuctive subjects

Slovakia & Hungary
Alžbeta Bátoriová (Elizabeth Bathory)




Slovakia & Romania
Dracula
1. - In Bram Stoker's book, slovaks have been mentioned in transylvania. (also slovaks)
2. - First Dracula movie was filmed in 1921 in Oravský Hrad (Orava Castle) - north slovakia


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Elizabeth Bathory was really an innocent madame. Look at her face...
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Elizabeth Bathory was really an innocent madame. Look at her face...
Yes, she is 100% pure virg
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Dark astral conjuctive subjects

Slovakia & Romania
Dracula
1. - In Bram Stoker's book, slovaks have been mentioned in transylvania. (also slovaks)
2. - First Dracula movie was filmed in 1921 in Oravský Hrad (Orava Castle) - north slovakia
Movie: Nosferatu
Directed by Friedrich W. Murnau

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Old December 2nd, 2007, 11:15 AM   #118
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Oh, what a great idea for a thread! I agree with futuros in his very first post. We are new generation and we have to change relations between our countries otherwise people here in Slovakia will be influenced by ideas of drunken idiots like Slota and his party. He´s not a politician! He´s a bloody joke and I do not think he´s a sane man...

Good idea would be change the relation through some cultural event or something like hungarian week in Slovakia and slovakian week in Hungary. It could introduce us some young writers, painters, musicians...or show some films and theatre of both countries...wouldn´t that be great?

Well, at first we could do some meeting together in Sturovo/Esztergom for example...
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 03:32 PM   #119
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All nations are welcomed here



BTW this big baroque church would need an urgent reconstruction but noone wants to fund that.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 12:14 AM   #120
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cool
but what was the reason for these flags exactly?
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