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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:47 AM   #1
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Whitgift Centre redevelopment | Croydon | 200m+ | 60 fl | Pre-planning

Another tower proposal for Croydon-

Might be worth doing a mini-thread for all croydon proposals similar to SE London one.

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Will country's tallest tower block be built in Croydon?
Exclusive By Graham Moody


The Croydon skyline may soon challenge the dizzy heights of New York after one developer revealed he is considering building the country's tallest tower block in the town centre.

The 60-storey building, which will be two floors higher than the country's current highest in Canary Wharf, would be part of a redevelopment of the Whitgift Centre and radically change a skyline already nicknamed mini-Manhattan.

Croydon's current tallest building is the not yet opened Altitude 25 in Fairfield Road, but at just 27 storeys it would be dwarfed by the new tower block.

Howard Holdings, which also developed Altitude 25, has been planning the shopping centre's regeneration for the past 18 months and expects to have a planning application in by the end of March.

The company bought the 11-acre, 93,000 sq ft, site in a joint venture with Anglo Irish Bank.

Chief executive Greg Coughlan said: "We are planning a complete redevelopment of the Whitgift Centre from the Marks and Spencer end. We're going to refurbish the whole lot and we're taking down a couple of the towers and we're going to put up two big towers. We are looking at a sixty-storey tower."

The building may though be too late to make it into the record books as the country's tallest, with plans already granted for the 72-storey Shard building in London Bridge.

Max Menon, chairman of Croydon Business Improvement District, welcomed the idea as good for the town's economy.
“We are planning a complete redevelopment of the Whitgift Centre from the Marks and Spencer end. We’re going to refurbish the whole lot and we’re taking down a couple of the towers and we’re going to put up two big towers. We are looking at a sixty-storey tower.”
Chief executive Greg Coughlan

"If it regenerates Croydon I don't see any issue with and it will bring plenty of benefits," he added. "If you build a 60-storey building you are going to have a lot of people working in Croydon and it's going to bring money into Croydon one-way or another."

Cabinet member for planning, Councillor Chris Wright, was among a group of delegates who took a model of the town centre to the world property market summit in Cannes last year and he feels that decision paid off.

He said: "We wouldn't rule out a tower of that size just for being 60-storeys but it needs to be in the right place for it to work. It just shows how well Croydon is thought of as people are coming to us from all over the place asking what they can do and where they can do it as they know Croydon is on the up and will be a superb place in the future."

Mr Coughlan was at a topping out ceremony for Altitude 25 last Wednesday, where it was revealed that two penthouses at the 82-metre tower had already been sold for more than £1million.

The penthouses, which are 2,113 sq ft and 1,390 sq ft, were sold as empty "shells", allowing the buyers to decide everything about the layout, including how many rooms they want.

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And a magazine I found whilst researching the above

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Old February 7th, 2008, 01:34 AM   #3
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Bring it on baby
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Old February 7th, 2008, 01:51 AM   #5
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Bloody hell!

I can see Croydon Council being behind this, they seem like the kind who want to prove how good they are. Not that I mean that in a bad way, it could be a very good thing!

Hell, they may even try and get it taller than The Shard!

No matter how tall it is, good to see another 200m+ project after so long! Heron Quays was close, but no cigar.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 01:54 AM   #6
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My goodness that's impressive!
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Old February 7th, 2008, 01:57 AM   #7
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I guess it all depends on what use the building has now. if they are looking to make it taller than Canada Square, then it will have to be atleast partially office, which is quite likely considering how many floors it will have.

I guess we will know soon enough
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Old February 7th, 2008, 10:36 AM   #8
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would this be visible from the city? say the london eye?
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Give me a min its visible from my office will take a photo now.

Was waiting for this to happen. But where will the Home Office go ?
And the Radio towers are visible from the city So i guess it might be
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Whitgift center today

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Old February 7th, 2008, 11:17 AM   #11
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Very promising!
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Old February 7th, 2008, 11:19 AM   #12
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I read this the other day but I thought you guys would've already posted something so I never thought to mention it!

I got the idea though that they are over-exaggerating the height! I dont think it could accomodate a 300m tall building.
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are there any renders of the tower or an height? do we actually know that it is a supertall? I mean Bish has 63 floors and its 288m
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Seems very early just talking about the next projectin mind. Kinda early for firm plans.
Whitgift is currently full and would have long term leases.

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Horrible paste job from the Wimbledon Guardian
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Now here is the importand part

“We are planning a complete redevelopment of the Whitgift Centre from the Marks and Spencer end. We’re going to refurbish the whole lot and we’re taking down a couple of the towers and we’re going to put up two big towers. We are looking at a sixty-storey tower.” Chief executive Greg Coughlan
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I'm guessing it will be mixed-use? Purely offices seems unlikely.

I couldn't resist making this thread title though...
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My lame render (Repeat just my render)
At 225 meters and 60 floors (As its looks to much at 300s meters) This height is approx right size based on the 67 meter Southern House infront. And could be thiner and to the right a little. But thiner at that height seems strange ( unless its SZR Dubai)

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Probably a it optimistic callign it a possible supertall- Its more likely to be a mimx of office & resi or purely residential. Croydon doesn't have the market to justify a 60 storey office tower.

Its good to see a council embracing towers & regeneration. They are determined to make Croydon Londons "3rd city" by 2020 after the City & Docklands.

I would assume they will be launching this scheme at MIPIM in March as Croydon in recent years had a big display exhibited.
I think Croydon needs some momentum to getting going as there has been a lot of proposals fall away over the years. With the Berkely resi tower hopefully starting soon it might kickstart over developments. Shame the East Croydon development has been stuck in the courts ( the result of the PI has been pushed back to the summer now) as that would have been well under way by now.
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Quote:
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Seems very early just talking about the next projectin mind. Kinda early for firm plans.
Whitgift is currently full and would have long term leases.

render was asked for

Horrible paste job from the Wimbledon Guardian
http://www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/n...in_croydon.php



Now here is the importand part

“We are planning a complete redevelopment of the Whitgift Centre from the Marks and Spencer end. We’re going to refurbish the whole lot and we’re taking down a couple of the towers and we’re going to put up two big towers. We are looking at a sixty-storey tower.” Chief executive Greg Coughlan
wait i dont get it, it'll look like 1CS??
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