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from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11703775 video as well.

中國藝術家艾未未說,他是被軟禁

一個中國最知名的藝術家,艾未未說,他已經被軟禁在北京的家中。

他說,當局想阻止他舉行紀念黨的強制拆遷他的新上海工作室。

艾先生應邀最初建立的空間,但它現在已經被宣布為非法,並會在短期內拆除。

藝術家幫助建立北京奧運鳥巢體育場,他的最新安裝的葵花子是顯示在倫敦的泰特現代美術館。

1957年出生於北京,藝術家發揮了關鍵作用,當代中國藝術在過去二十年,一直高度聲樂關於人權問題的國家。

沒有標誌的車

艾先生曾計劃舉辦晚會在他的110萬美元(六十七點○萬英鎊)上海工作室在週日之前,其拆除。

但上週五,他說,男人,他懷疑是便衣警官告訴他,他不會被允許前往上海。

一輛麵包車沒有 numberplates超過 10人裡面是擋住了他的家在退出成為藝術家的聚居在北京,他補充說。

“我被軟禁,以防止從我去上海。你永遠不能說與這種政府,”他告訴美聯社記者艾通過電話。

根據他的Twitter上的消息飼料,艾已被告知他將被軟禁,直到午夜星期日。

“請接受我最深切的歉意,”他向客人啾啾在上海。

他說,有些人仍計劃前往他的工作室。

艾倫 Yentob:“言論自由在中國是艱難的”
他曾計劃為河蟹在活動。

據認為,選擇的螃蟹是作為一項政治聲明的中文名稱為河蟹聽起來像“協調”,經常使用的一個委婉的中國當局的審查。

Chinese artist Ai Weiwei says he is under house arrest

One of China's best-known artists, Ai Weiwei, says he has been under house arrest at his home in Beijing.

He says the authorities want to prevent him holding a party to mark the forced demolition of his new Shanghai studio.

Mr Ai was initially invited to build the space, but it has now been declared illegal and will shortly be demolished.

The artist helped create Beijing's Olympic Bird's Nest stadium and his latest installation of sunflower seeds is showing at London's Tate Modern.

Born in 1957 in Beijing, the artist has played a key role in contemporary Chinese art over the last two decades, and has been highly vocal about human rights issues in the country.

Unmarked van

Mr Ai had planned to hold a party at his $1.1m (£670,000) Shanghai studio on Sunday prior to its demolition.

But on Friday, he said that men he suspected were plain-clothes police officers told him he would not be allowed to travel to Shanghai.

A van without numberplates with more than 10 men inside was blocking the exit from his home at an artists' colony in Beijing, he added.

"I'm under house arrest to prevent me from going to Shanghai. You can never really argue with this government," Mr Ai told the Associated Press by telephone.

According to messages on his Twitter feed, Mr Ai has been told he will be under house arrest until midnight on Sunday.

"Please accept my deepest apologies," he tweeted to his guests in Shanghai.

He said that some people still planned to travel to his studio.

Alan Yentob: "Freedom of expression in China is tough"
He had planned to serve river crabs at the event.

It is thought that the choice of crabs was a political statement as the Chinese name for river crab sounds like "harmonise", a euphemism often used by the Chinese authorities for censorship.

Shanghai had imposed a six-month moratorium on large-scale building and demolition projects during the World Expo, in a bid to improve air quality, but reports say these have resumed since the exhibition ended.

"Ai's studio did not go through the application procedures, therefore, it is an illegal building," Chen Jie, director of the urban construction department in Malu township, where the studio is located, is quoted as telling the Global Times.

Mr Ai's latest work is currently on display in London's Tate Modern gallery: a giant installation made up of millions of tiny replica sunflower seeds.

Sunflower seeds are a popular Chinese street snack but also hold another meaning for the artist.

During the Cultural Revolution, propaganda images showed Chairman Mao as the sun and the mass of people as sunflowers turning towards him.

"The seed is a household object but at the same time it is a revolutionary symbol," Mr Ai has said of his work
 

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^^ :lol:

anyway, just a suggestion to OP: you don't have to post the google translation next time. it is not helping anyone since it is not readable, just the English report will work fine.
 

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... ...
"Freedom of expression ... ...

"Ai Wei Wei's studio did not go through the application procedures, therefore, it is an illegal building," Chen Jie, director of the urban construction department in Malu township, where the studio is located, ... ...

jboi & all other anglo saxon who are always jealous and always hate China Big Time Progress since 1978, we have news for you ... ...


USA Americanese (American + ESE) "freedom of expression" is totally useless and poisonous.
:storm:


Look at what happen to you in the land of the free (USA), more than 85% of you the population
have always opposed the Huge Tax Cut for the Extreme Rich Americanese (the Wall Street ),
yet your dimwit (Republican & Democrat) congressman & senators

are IGNORING your ("Freedom of expression" from the Main Street) the middle class & the poor Americanese and
STOLE (the Main Street) your money anyway and gave them to
(the Wall Street) the Extreme Rich Americanese. (HALLELUJAH) :bash: :lol:

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If ("Freedom of expression") and ("Americanese Democracy") are good and useful,
then you vaunted ("Freedom of expression") and ("Americanese Democracy") will had already PREVENTED
someone clueless & dimwit like George Bush Junior (who can act charming) from ... ...

-- 1) STOLE the 2000 election from Al Gore, and becoming your president
-- 2) RUIN your beloved country USA by STEALING (the Main Street) money and giving them away to (the Wall Street)
-- 3) waging idiotic war in Iraq for so long


Refute these 3 above -- if you can ? :rock:

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Now, the USA nation is on the brink of bankruptcy, because the (the Wall Street -- Goldstein , Crookstein ,
Conmanstein , Bernie Madoff ) Extreme Rich Americanese stole your money (the Main Street)
and hide them offshore in Bermuda after fooling you all with their fancy MBA toy -- derivatives shyt.

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Since 2009, US Federal Central Bank has been PRINTING MONEY (= Fancy word -- Quantitative Easing)
and flooding the world with paper money USD ... ...

-- a) 2009 -- PRINTING MONEY (1st) by US Federal Central Bank = 1,725,000,000,000 USD = 1.725 Trillion USD
-- b) 2010 -- PRINTING MONEY (2A) by US Federal Central Bank = 600,000,000,000 USD = 600 Billion USD

coming soon to the theater near you, many world top economists predict
-- c) -- 2011 -- PRINTING MONEY (2B) by US Federal Central Bank = 900,000,000,000 USD = 900 Billion USD


This means (the Main Street) are getting poorer drastically day by day,
yet (the Main Street) can only protest ("Freedom of expression"),
but the (the Wall Street) are smiling and dumping their USD Big Time
and exchange them into China RMB (playing the China Stock Market), Aussie AUD, ... ...


:eek2:
If ("Freedom of expression") and ("Americanese Democracy") are good and useful,
-- why the above PRINTING worthless paper MONEY happen again and again in the land of the free USA ??

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At present, more and more of you (the Main Street) are losing your jobs and getting unemployed.

More and more of you (the Main Street) Americanese are coming and flocking to
China looking for prosperity, opportunities and jobs.
Just look at -- How many (the Main Street) Americanese are loitering on
the Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou, Xian, Chengdu, Urumqi, and all other major China city streets??
Too many too count.

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If you who hate China so much for not being a democratic country
-- why did you keep coming to China and making a very nice living in China for the last 10 years??


:poke:
Why don't you (pro Americanese expats) just go home to USA, and
suck your own thumb and lick the paint on the wall ??
We do not welcome you kind (pro Americanese) who always bend over backward to weaken
and SPLIT China up by supporting the (Tibet, Uighur, and Falungong) terrorists.

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NOTE:
OTOH, we are careful to differentiate and we always embrace and welcome those Westerners
who are happy to witness and cooperate with a peaceful rising China.
 

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^^^^

All wrong - we all love and respect china

Long live Parliamentarism - its our freedoms. 萬歲議會制 万岁议会制

Democracy has evolved across world in different way

United kingdom to America to Spain, France are all diffrent!

We don't hate china? what crazy thing to say.
however I know alot chinese people think western people think that.

China is very beautiful and has had a huge influence on the world.

There is a gap - because we have huge freedoms in London we
have permanent protest out side parliament every day - different issues
why not! You will not see this in China!

Democracy is not American? its a human right. Look at Brazil just
elected a lady president not through a committee or a assembly
or a great meeting - but by direct peoples vote.
democracy is every where.

In Britain we have ruling political party is questioned by other parties
every day, and we have Prime minister questions its called prime ministers question time.

When does China prime minister get questioned?

Chinese people find it hard to understand our democracy in UK
you want see this in chinese parliament!


We love China

History of Parliamentarism

The origins of the modern concept of prime ministerial government go back to the Kingdom of Great Britain (1707 - 1800) and The Parliamentary System in Sweden 1721 - 1772 , that coincided with each other.
In theory, power resided in the monarch, who chaired cabinet and chose ministers. In reality, King George I's inability to speak English led the responsibility for chairing cabinet to go to the leading minister, literally the prime or first minister. The gradual democratisation of parliament with the broadening of the voting franchise increased parliament's role in controlling government, and in deciding who the king could ask to form a government. By the nineteenth century, the Great Reform Act of 1832 led to parliamentary dominance, with its choice invariably deciding who was prime minister and the complexion of the government.
Other countries gradually adopted what came to be called the Westminster Model of government, with an executive answerable to parliament, but exercising powers nominally vested in the head of state, in the name of the head of state. Hence the use of phrases like Her Majesty's government or His Excellency's government. Such a system became particularly prevalent in older British dominions, many of whom had their constitutions enacted by the British parliament. Examples include Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the Irish Free State and the Union of South Africa, though these parliaments themselves have often evolved or were reformed from their British model: the Australian Senate, for instance, more closely reflects the US Senate than the British House of Lords; whereas there is no upper house in New Zealand.

See many diffrent forms>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Parliamentarism
 

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^^ You already had Parliamentarism during the Opium wars, right? And it didn't stop your country from committing those atrocities. It's social-economic development what makes governments better, not the political model.
 

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Chinese people find it hard to understand your democracy in UK = UK/Jersey/Guernsey people find it hard to understand the political system in China, you are actually even bother to try
 

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^^ You already had Parliamentarism during the Opium wars, right? And it didn't stop your country from committing those atrocities. It's social-economic development what makes governments better, not the political model.
Arguably those things are inter-related. Sound socio-economic development depends on a fair and stable political system, and vice versa.

In the Opium War era (1839 to 1860) only a handful of British people could vote, and universal suffrage was not introduced until 1928. Granted democracy cannot on its own eradicate such atrocities as Blair still managed to follow Bush into Iraq with Conservative votes, but it at least it provides a legitimate platform for opposing voices to be heard and acted upon. In fact I've always said the British system is still not exactly fair. If they had proportional representation with the Liberals properly represented the balance might have just tipped the other way.
 

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At the the time of the opium wars ,Britain was less advanced
on its constitutional development. Long time ago

Parliament may pass any legislation/rules lawes, that it wishes
Britain today is a full democracy and a Parliamentary democracy its the elected parliament
that has supreme power over constitutional monarchy and ruling party.

With direct elections and every citizen having a direct vote, not through a committee or great meeting or one party committee.

Any body can set up a political party or have a view and in turn can be elected to the parliament the party with most
votes from the people can form the government for a term of office

The UK allows for more than one political party. Supreme power is given to the elected parliament, and not a president or a king.
everyone is answerable to parliament

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom

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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=66860647#post66860647
 

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At least Ai Weiwei has a chance to speak. For the millions of Iraqi and Afghanistan civilians being slaughtered by US and UK, they don't even have a chance to open their mouths.
 

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At least Ai Weiwei has a chance to speak. For the millions of Iraqi and Afghanistan civilians being slaughtered by US and UK, they don't even have a chance to open their mouths.
The tens of millions of starved and slaughtered people in the 1960s also never had a chance to open their mouths!
 

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Is that an excuse for the looting and barbarism? Maybe without the opium China would have never gone down that road, don't you think?
Of course not!

But what has that one to do with the other? If you speak about the victims of the Iraq war you also have to speak about the victims of Saddam and his killer troops.
 

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A quote against ideological supremacism, by Lee Kuan Yew:

With few exceptions, democracy has not brought good government to new developing countries...What Asians value may not necessarily be what Americans or Europeans value.
 

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Of course not!

But what has that one to do with the other? If you speak about the victims of the Iraq war you also have to speak about the victims of Saddam and his killer troops.
The point is that US and UK always preach other countries that they are the model of human rights while in fact they are looting and killing people even they know the people are innocent before hand (refer to wikileaks). This actually not much different from what they were doing in the opium war.
 

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A quote against ideological supremacism, by Lee Kuan Yew:

With few exceptions, democracy has not brought good government to new developing countries...What Asians value may not necessarily be what Americans or Europeans value.
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The point is that US and UK always preach other countries that they are the model of human rights while in fact they are looting and killing people even they know the people are innocent before hand (refer to wikileaks). This actually not much different from what they were doing in the opium war.
You're totally right, but the USA brought democracy to us and it worked, although Germany was a "developing country" at that time.

Lee Kuan Yew may be right with countries growing 7-10% per year. Nearly everyone living in a dictatorship that provides a doubling of income every 10 years will adore their government. But what will happen when the dictatorship cannot provide that growth anymore? Say bye-bye to 'asian-values'. When a country reaches a certain point in development, it should turn into a democracy, and for the most times, they have done so (South korea, Taiwan).

Democracy works in the long run. Every developed country is a democracy, and there are only very few poor democratic countries. There is no developed country that is authoritarian.
 

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You're totally right, but the USA brought democracy to us and it worked, although Germany was a "developing country" at that time.

Lee Kuan Yew may be right with countries growing 7-10% per year. Nearly everyone living in a dictatorship that provides a doubling of income every 10 years will adore their government. But what will happen when the dictatorship cannot provide that growth anymore? Say bye-bye to 'asian-values'. When a country reaches a certain point in development, it should turn into a democracy, and for the most times, they have done so (South korea, Taiwan).

Democracy works in the long run. Every developed country is a democracy, and there are only very few poor democratic countries. There is no developed country that is authoritarian.
If you look at the list of the developed countries and compare with the countries which invaded and plundered China 150 years ago, you will find that almost no difference. Is this a coincidence? Not at all. These countries became rich by colonizing, invading, plundering and outputing their redundant population (or criminals) to other countries. No developing countries have this advantage anymore.

Hong Kong and Singapore are getting developed without much democracy (higher per capita GDP than UK and Japan). How do you explain this? Taiwan elected the most corrupt president after it became democrazy.
 

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If you look at the list of the developed countries and compare with the countries which invaded and plundered China 150 years ago, you will find that almost no difference. Is this a coincidence? Not at all. These countries became rich by colonizing, invading, plundering and outputing their redundant population (or criminals) to other countries. No developing countries have this advantage anymore.

Hong Kong and Singapore are getting developed without much democracy (higher per capita GDP than UK and Japan). How do you explain this? Taiwan elected the most corrupt president after it became democrazy.
So in reality all the industry, the technical progress that was made in Europe in the last 150 years is stolen from China, you say?:lol: As far as I know, only UK and France invaded the world 150 years ago. How come that there are over 30 developed nations now? Colonialism ended 50 years ago. How come that the colonizing empires experienced their economic boom just at the time they gave up their colonies?
Apart from the UK and France, there were no other major colonizing powers on earth. So, according to you, the rest of Europe should be dirt poor, as they had no colonies to plunder.

The richest nations on earth had no colonies at all, they're, like all the other nations, built on the knowledge and abilities of their own people. Look at Scandinavia, Switzerland etc.! Spain was a colony of Islam for hundreds of years, yet they developed. Czech republic and Slovakia were dominated by Austria for decades, then they were colonies of the Soviet Empre, yet they developed. Ireland was itself ruled by the UK for centuries, yet Ireland is one of the richest countries on earth. Ethiopia is independent for millennias, yet it's dirt poor. Former colonial empires now have disadvantages, because they are flooded by people from their former colonies.

Hongkong and Singapore are special cases. First, they are city states. The former were lucky that their rulers gave much economic freedom and the second were lucky because they got the right leadership.

On Taiwan: A democracy, like everything other, has to develop. You can't expect a democracy to work from the first day on. Now I think the Taiwanese are comfortable with their system, otherwise they would like to join China, but that's not the case.
 
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