I agree, but its totally 'pie in the sky' - with the price of land such as it is in the city centre.QUOTE]
I don't understand why public space provisions in Leeds are pie in the sky.
Fred; Could you explain this in the context of how every other city can have such public spaces. Its not like land is cheap in Manchester,London or Sheffield yet these have all got amazing public spaces.
The quirky water features throughout sheffield and the winter gardens are excellent; and these aren't even an addition to a private structure (which lumiere will provide) but publicly funded (Im pretty sure of this but don't know for certain).
Manchester too has amazing (if not overly green) public spaces which makes visiting the city much more fun (barable )
Things like large maps also make the city a lot more inviting and easy to get round (of which the afformentioned cities have).
And the idea of pocket parks which have been integrated into the the Harewood scheme, I think we all agree is not enough in such a large developement. I would have liked to see a green or at least something which could have added a bit of atmosphere.
Also, I would like to see more done with Woodhouse Moore as it is the the nearest "big" green area to the city centre. This area has a great atmosphere during summer. I would just like it to be shared by everyone and not just students.
SirCW: I didnt know about the projects to open up the rierside so thanks for that. I hope this is also implimented along with signs and overtly public coridors so we know where we can and cannot go. The average city member wont go exploring, they don't have the confidence. What is sad is most of my friends from uni don't even know where the docks are and have certainly never walked along the river.
Well Joey, I would agree with you about the open spaces in other city centres and the maps and the fountains. The lack of green spaces in Leeds city centre is a historic thing and in my opinion is in part due to the fact that I think, uniquely of the large cities, Leeds was spared large scale bombing destruction during the war. In fact in March 1941, in our worst air raid, the only city centre buildings to be hit were the Town Hall, (which caused very little damage) and the Museum then on Park Row (that had to be closed). There is much boasting by the city council about how Leeds is one of the greenest cities in the country, but of course the green parts are not where we really want them - in or very near to, the city centre. As to why apparently little provision has been made in the Harewood/Eastgate scheme - well blame the developers/ planning committee etc. But to ask for the demolishing of property like the St. John's Centre to provide some green space is totally unrealistic. I have already commented on how greenless are our existing public spaces and I would think, for starters, that Victoria Gardens should be made to live up to its name ! Also what green space we do have should be promoted more. For example, Park Square is very pleasant and is easily accessible now by the free city centre bus. Do citizens/visitors know about it ?