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Hmm. Probably a fair bit of bollocks in your post, Dreamer. Think about what you're actually saying.

What about foreign investment in the UK, is that okay? The Nissan factory in Sunderland, Europe's most productive I believe, does it not equate to happy people? Both French and German companies invest billions in the UK, is that bad too? I suppose you think that all the profits go overseas?

What about UK companies like BP, who derive 90% of their revenue from foreign investments, should they only invest in the UK? Indeed, the vast majority of the FT100 companies derive the vast majority of their revenue in foreign countries. I suppose you think that foreign countries only see all the benefits?

In actuality the UK actually does extremely well from globalisation, I believe it has a substantial income surplus with the rest of the world. Imposing some kind of 1970s style state controlled industrial policy would be an absolute disaster. Careful what you wish for.

Totally of topic. I apologise.
You can call it bollocks all you like mate, it doesn't change the fact that Germany continued to develop and invest in its industries allowing them to take over many British companies such as BOC and ICI and to continue to grow exports. Of course we need investment from abroad and likewise to invest abroad but unlike other countries we are too happy to shaft our own companies and workers. You are correct Nissan and vauxhall are great examples or successful foreign investment and hard working Brits working together.

Home growth wealth and investment is what will get us all out of debt.
 

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And here is another thread that's gone off topic.
A fine looking addition to the City. Can't wait to go up to the viewing platform garden thing at the top.
 

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You can call it bollocks all you like mate, it doesn't change the fact that Germany continued to develop and invest in its industries allowing them to take over many British companies such as BOC and ICI and to continue to grow exports. Of course we need investment from abroad and likewise to invest abroad but unlike other countries we are too happy to shaft our own companies and workers. You are correct Nissan and vauxhall are great examples or successful foreign investment and hard working Brits working together.

Home growth wealth and investment is what will get us all out of debt.
Whilst you are quite right in about required investment in export manufacturing, building steel fabrications is not an example one can cite where we fail in this respect.
Lest we forget that almost all of the large-scale skyscraper projects in London (including Shard, Heron, 122LH), most of the new railway bridges, Heathrow T5, the Emirates, the Olympic Stadium, Aquatics Centre, Velodrome and Orbit, hundreds of large projects around the UK, and indeed some of the largest projects in the world, including the massive Hong Kong airport....have all been supplied with their steel from up the road from you by Watsons in Bolton.
 

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Indeed. Sorry, I fell asleep moderating this last night. Sofa bound Ill today so using the mobile app. I'll clean up if I get to ny PC later.
 

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Now over 50% let.

The press release is a bit old, but here you go:

http://www.landsecurities.com/media/press-releases?MediaID=1606

Liberty Syndicate Management Ltd (Liberty Syndicates) and Liberty Mutual Insurance Europe Limited (Liberty Mutual Insurance Europe) have together agreed to take 117,336 sq ft at 20 Fenchurch Street. Following the letting, 53% of the building’s office space is let, which equates to 51% by income.

Liberty Syndicates and Liberty Mutual Insurance Europe are two subsidiaries of Liberty Mutual Insurance, a global insurance business headquartered in Boston. In total, Liberty Syndicates will occupy floors 21-23 comprising 66,321 sq ft while Liberty Mutual Insurance Europe will occupy floors 10-12 comprising 51,015 sq ft. The letting follows the announcement of RSA’s agreement in January 2013 to lease and consolidate its existing London premises and relocate to 20 Fenchurch Street.
So six more floors full of people employed by yet another foreign firm investing in London PLC. More British Jobs for British workers. Hurrah!
 

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Does anyone know when the first roof steel goes on over the top of the building? Cant wait to see the top of the building take shape..... it will look a lot more elegant as the shape 'comes in', each frame standing proud..... like a Hungarian Vizsla
 

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Sheeeeesh!! how many lamp posts does one road need? And are drivers usually forgetful after every 5th post? London can be such a god awful ugly city from the ground.
Whenever I return to Bristol, I notice that road signage springs up as if someone goes around planting special seeds. I swear, in some places they've put extra pairs of traffic lights plus overheads just in case you miss the real ones. Aside from the ugliness, this kind of clutter just adds to driver confusion.

Off topic--sorry.
 

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Anyone know how much it'll cost to go to the rooftop garden thingy?? (Apologies if that's already been asked... in 447 pages it probably has). As long as it's cheaper than the effing Shard.
 

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Anyone know how much it'll cost to go to the rooftop garden thingy?? (Apologies if that's already been asked... in 447 pages it probably has). As long as it's cheaper than the effing Shard.
Its FREE!!! Yayyy! *applause* that was one of the winning factors that got this tower planning permission, the free public park. Although now the design for the roof garden has changed most of the 'park' is now just cafes, you will struggle to go up and not spend a penny...:)
 

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You can call it bollocks all you like mate, it doesn't change the fact that Germany continued to develop and invest in its industries allowing them to take over many British companies such as BOC and ICI and to continue to grow exports. Of course we need investment from abroad and likewise to invest abroad but unlike other countries we are too happy to shaft our own companies and workers. You are correct Nissan and vauxhall are great examples or successful foreign investment and hard working Brits working together.

Home growth wealth and investment is what will get us all out of debt.
Can't compare Germany with France. France is much more socialist and has double the rate of unemployment.

Back On Topic - this is my favourite new scraper under construction. It's just a funky mother that screams confidence.
 

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Man it's funny I remember scoping this forum as the core was just hitting off and the amount of negative comments about a building that wasn't even built was amazing. Now it's nearly completed there's nothing but positive comments it seems. Great addition for London, just need to fill the gap between it and the "cluster".
 
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