And NYS is doing poorly, how? Imagine if Albany could get their act together...Darrell said:
2004 Gross Metropolitan Product and GMP per capita
*** Please note this list does not include Consolidated Statistical Areas ***
Includes all MSAs with GMP 25.0 billion and greater
MSAs ranked by GMP 2004
Rank, MSA, GMP-Billions, GMP per Capita
1 New York 901.3 $48,172
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach 581.3 $44,957
3 Chicago 392.6 $41,810
4 Washington 276.2 $53,735
5 Dallas-Fort Worth 256.4 $44,982
6 Philadelphia 253.4 $43,690
7 Boston 233.7 $52,873
8 Houston 214.7 $41,448
9 San Francisco-Oakland 204.9 $49,373
10 Atlanta 198.1 $42,059
11 Miami-Fort Lauderdale 184.2 $34,366
12 Detroit 176.0 $39,198
13 Seattle-Tacoma 155.0 $48,896
14 Minneapolis-St. Paul 145.8 $46,731
15 Phoenix 140.8 $37,849
16 San Diego 136.1 $46,451
17 Riverside-San Bernardino 122.7 $32,375
18 Baltimore 112.4 $42,576
19 Denver 108.5 $46,567
20 St. Louis 102.0 $36,957
21 Tampa-St. Petersburg 100.3 $38,726
22 Pittsburgh 92.6 $38,551
23 San Jose 90.8 $52,154
24 Sacramento 86.0 $42,638
25 Cleveland 83.6 $39,120
26 Cincinnati 78.2 $37,998
27 Portland (OR) 77.5 $37,548
28 Virginia Beach-Norfolk 74.1 $45,073
29 Kansas City 73.9 $38,390
30 Orlando 72.6 $38,990
31 Hartford 70.5 $59,494
32 Las Vegas 70.2 $42,520
33 Columbus (OH) 69.1 $40,791
34 San Antonio 69.1 $37,271
35 Charlotte 68.3 $46,305
36 Indianapolis 65.9 $40,629
37 Providence 64.0 $39,288
38 Milwaukee 62.8 $41,425
39 Austin 58.7 $41,572
40 Nashville 56.3 $40,330
41 Buffalo 56.1 $48,614
42 Richmond (VA) 53.0 $45,927
43 Rochester (NY) 50.3 $48,319
44 Bridgeport-Stamford 49.8 $55,150
45 Jacksonville 48.6 $39,673
46 Memphis 48.0 $38,400
47 New Orleans 47.0 $35,606
48 Louisville 44.4 $36,969
49 Albany (NY) 43.4 $51,361
50 Salt Lake City 42.5 $41,708
51 New Haven 40.8 $48,227
52 Oklahoma City 38.2 $33,392
53 Honolulu 37.9 $42,111
54 Birmingham 36.9 $34,104
55 Raleigh 36.1 $39,454
56 Grand Rapids 33.1 $43,099
57 Worcester 32.5 $41,720
58 Dayton 32.2 $38,061
59 Syracuse 32.1 $49,083
60 Fresno 32.1 $37,024
61 Omaha 32.0 $39,801
62 Greensboro 31.7 $47,455
63 Oxnard 31.4 $39,348
64 Tucson 29.7 $38,077
65 Tulsa 29.1 $32,993
66 Albuquerque 28.7 $36,748
67 Allentown-Bethlehem 28.3 $36,282
68 Springfield (MA) 28.1 $40,843
69 Baton Rouge 27.3 $37,449
70 Harrisburg 26.1 $50,289
71 Knoxville 25.2 $38,949
72 Akron 25.2 $35,897
73 Columbia (SC) 25.0 $36,819
MSAs ranked by GMP per capita 2004
Rank, MSA, GMP per Capita, GMP-Billions
1 Hartford $59,494 70.5
2 Bridgeport-Stamford $55,150 49.8
3 Washington $53,735 276.2
4 Boston $52,873 233.7
5 San Jose $52,154 90.8
6 Albany (NY) $51,361 43.4
7 Harrisburg $50,289 26.1
8 San Francisco-Oakland $49,373 204.9
9 Syracuse $49,083 32.1
10 Seattle-Tacoma $48,896 155.0
11 Buffalo $48,614 56.1
12 Rochester (NY) $48,319 50.3
13 New Haven $48,227 40.8
14 New York $48,172 901.3
15 Greensboro $47,455 31.7
16 Minneapolis-St. Paul $46,731 145.8
17 Denver $46,567 108.5
18 San Diego $46,451 136.1
19 Charlotte $46,305 68.3
20 Richmond (VA) $45,927 53.0
21 Virginia Beach-Norfolk $45,073 74.1
22 Dallas-Fort Worth $44,982 256.4
23 Los Angeles-Long Beach $44,957 581.3
24 Philadelphia $43,690 253.4
25 Grand Rapids $43,099 33.1
26 Sacramento $42,638 86.0
27 Baltimore $42,576 112.4
28 Las Vegas $42,520 70.2
29 Honolulu $42,111 37.9
30 Atlanta $42,059 198.1
31 Chicago $41,810 392.6
32 Worcester $41,720 32.5
33 Salt Lake City $41,708 42.5
34 Austin $41,572 58.7
35 Houston $41,448 214.7
36 Milwaukee $41,425 62.8
37 Springfield (MA) $40,843 28.1
38 Columbus (OH) $40,791 69.1
39 Indianapolis $40,629 65.9
40 Nashville $40,330 56.3
41 Omaha $39,801 32.0
42 Jacksonville $39,673 48.6
43 Raleigh $39,454 36.1
44 Oxnard $39,348 31.4
45 Providence $39,288 64.0
46 Detroit $39,198 176.0
47 Cleveland $39,120 83.6
48 Orlando $38,990 72.6
49 Knoxville $38,949 25.2
50 Tampa-St. Petersburg $38,726 100.3
51 Pittsburgh $38,551 92.6
52 Memphis $38,400 48.0
53 Kansas City $38,390 73.9
54 Tucson $38,077 29.7
55 Dayton $38,061 32.2
56 Cincinnati $37,998 78.2
57 Phoenix $37,849 140.8
58 Portland (OR) $37,548 77.5
59 Baton Rouge $37,449 27.3
60 San Antonio $37,271 69.1
61 Fresno $37,024 32.1
62 Louisville $36,969 44.4
63 St. Louis $36,957 102.0
64 Columbia (SC) $36,819 25.0
65 Albuquerque $36,748 28.7
66 Allentown-Bethlehem $36,282 28.3
67 Akron $35,897 25.2
68 New Orleans $35,606 47.0
69 Miami-Fort Lauderdale $34,366 184.2
70 Birmingham $34,104 36.9
71 Oklahoma City $33,392 38.2
72 Tulsa $32,993 29.1
73 Riverside-San Bernardino $32,375 122.7
Includes all MSAs with GMP 25.0 billion and greater
MSAs ranked by GMP 2004
Rank, MSA, GMP-Billions, GMP per Capita
1 New York 901.3 $48,172
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach 581.3 $44,957
3 Chicago 392.6 $41,810
4 Washington 276.2 $53,735
5 Dallas-Fort Worth 256.4 $44,982
6 Philadelphia 253.4 $43,690
7 Boston 233.7 $52,873
8 Houston 214.7 $41,448
9 San Francisco-Oakland 204.9 $49,373
10 Atlanta 198.1 $42,059
11 Miami-Fort Lauderdale 184.2 $34,366
12 Detroit 176.0 $39,198
13 Seattle-Tacoma 155.0 $48,896
14 Minneapolis-St. Paul 145.8 $46,731
15 Phoenix 140.8 $37,849
16 San Diego 136.1 $46,451
17 Riverside-San Bernardino 122.7 $32,375
18 Baltimore 112.4 $42,576
19 Denver 108.5 $46,567
20 St. Louis 102.0 $36,957
21 Tampa-St. Petersburg 100.3 $38,726
22 Pittsburgh 92.6 $38,551
23 San Jose 90.8 $52,154
24 Sacramento 86.0 $42,638
25 Cleveland 83.6 $39,120
26 Cincinnati 78.2 $37,998
27 Portland (OR) 77.5 $37,548
28 Virginia Beach-Norfolk 74.1 $45,073
29 Kansas City 73.9 $38,390
30 Orlando 72.6 $38,990
31 Hartford 70.5 $59,494
32 Las Vegas 70.2 $42,520
33 Columbus (OH) 69.1 $40,791
34 San Antonio 69.1 $37,271
35 Charlotte 68.3 $46,305
36 Indianapolis 65.9 $40,629
37 Providence 64.0 $39,288
38 Milwaukee 62.8 $41,425
39 Austin 58.7 $41,572
40 Nashville 56.3 $40,330
41 Buffalo 56.1 $48,614
42 Richmond (VA) 53.0 $45,927
43 Rochester (NY) 50.3 $48,319
44 Bridgeport-Stamford 49.8 $55,150
45 Jacksonville 48.6 $39,673
46 Memphis 48.0 $38,400
47 New Orleans 47.0 $35,606
48 Louisville 44.4 $36,969
49 Albany (NY) 43.4 $51,361
50 Salt Lake City 42.5 $41,708
51 New Haven 40.8 $48,227
52 Oklahoma City 38.2 $33,392
53 Honolulu 37.9 $42,111
54 Birmingham 36.9 $34,104
55 Raleigh 36.1 $39,454
56 Grand Rapids 33.1 $43,099
57 Worcester 32.5 $41,720
58 Dayton 32.2 $38,061
59 Syracuse 32.1 $49,083
60 Fresno 32.1 $37,024
61 Omaha 32.0 $39,801
62 Greensboro 31.7 $47,455
63 Oxnard 31.4 $39,348
64 Tucson 29.7 $38,077
65 Tulsa 29.1 $32,993
66 Albuquerque 28.7 $36,748
67 Allentown-Bethlehem 28.3 $36,282
68 Springfield (MA) 28.1 $40,843
69 Baton Rouge 27.3 $37,449
70 Harrisburg 26.1 $50,289
71 Knoxville 25.2 $38,949
72 Akron 25.2 $35,897
73 Columbia (SC) 25.0 $36,819
MSAs ranked by GMP per capita 2004
Rank, MSA, GMP per Capita, GMP-Billions
1 Hartford $59,494 70.5
2 Bridgeport-Stamford $55,150 49.8
3 Washington $53,735 276.2
4 Boston $52,873 233.7
5 San Jose $52,154 90.8
6 Albany (NY) $51,361 43.4
7 Harrisburg $50,289 26.1
8 San Francisco-Oakland $49,373 204.9
9 Syracuse $49,083 32.1
10 Seattle-Tacoma $48,896 155.0
11 Buffalo $48,614 56.1
12 Rochester (NY) $48,319 50.3
13 New Haven $48,227 40.8
14 New York $48,172 901.3
15 Greensboro $47,455 31.7
16 Minneapolis-St. Paul $46,731 145.8
17 Denver $46,567 108.5
18 San Diego $46,451 136.1
19 Charlotte $46,305 68.3
20 Richmond (VA) $45,927 53.0
21 Virginia Beach-Norfolk $45,073 74.1
22 Dallas-Fort Worth $44,982 256.4
23 Los Angeles-Long Beach $44,957 581.3
24 Philadelphia $43,690 253.4
25 Grand Rapids $43,099 33.1
26 Sacramento $42,638 86.0
27 Baltimore $42,576 112.4
28 Las Vegas $42,520 70.2
29 Honolulu $42,111 37.9
30 Atlanta $42,059 198.1
31 Chicago $41,810 392.6
32 Worcester $41,720 32.5
33 Salt Lake City $41,708 42.5
34 Austin $41,572 58.7
35 Houston $41,448 214.7
36 Milwaukee $41,425 62.8
37 Springfield (MA) $40,843 28.1
38 Columbus (OH) $40,791 69.1
39 Indianapolis $40,629 65.9
40 Nashville $40,330 56.3
41 Omaha $39,801 32.0
42 Jacksonville $39,673 48.6
43 Raleigh $39,454 36.1
44 Oxnard $39,348 31.4
45 Providence $39,288 64.0
46 Detroit $39,198 176.0
47 Cleveland $39,120 83.6
48 Orlando $38,990 72.6
49 Knoxville $38,949 25.2
50 Tampa-St. Petersburg $38,726 100.3
51 Pittsburgh $38,551 92.6
52 Memphis $38,400 48.0
53 Kansas City $38,390 73.9
54 Tucson $38,077 29.7
55 Dayton $38,061 32.2
56 Cincinnati $37,998 78.2
57 Phoenix $37,849 140.8
58 Portland (OR) $37,548 77.5
59 Baton Rouge $37,449 27.3
60 San Antonio $37,271 69.1
61 Fresno $37,024 32.1
62 Louisville $36,969 44.4
63 St. Louis $36,957 102.0
64 Columbia (SC) $36,819 25.0
65 Albuquerque $36,748 28.7
66 Allentown-Bethlehem $36,282 28.3
67 Akron $35,897 25.2
68 New Orleans $35,606 47.0
69 Miami-Fort Lauderdale $34,366 184.2
70 Birmingham $34,104 36.9
71 Oklahoma City $33,392 38.2
72 Tulsa $32,993 29.1
73 Riverside-San Bernardino $32,375 122.7
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If Albany got their act together and NYC didn't drive up the cost of living (aka. the highest tax burden in America for upstate ny) New York would again be the most influential state in the union by far. The state's long standing status of innovation could make it excel in the modern economy if it were more business friendly. Not to mention the Upstate NY landscape is one of the most beautiful in the US and it's people are some of the most friendly.sargeantcm said:And NYS is doing poorly, how? Imagine if Albany could get their act together...
^^ I didn't think Buffalo was that friendly, I was almost run over by a cop trying to get a way from a crazy hobo.
^^ Ahh, gotta love the derelicts. The funny thing is, ironically, they all seem to have jobs. Pretty impressive for an area where the biggest knock is a lack of jobs.
Dont get ahead of yourselfROCguy said:If Albany got their act together and NYC didn't drive up the cost of living (aka. the highest tax burden in America for upstate ny) New York would again be the most influential state in the union by far. The state's long standing status of innovation could make it excel in the modern economy if it were more business friendly. .
it would definitley be Number 2 though.
It would be interesting to see what the corresponding per capita and median incomes are. Sometimes they vary a lot.
It's good that Hartford is number 1...
But put in the high cost of living and the income inequality...there are tens of thousands of people who probably make less than half the $58k...
I thought Bridgeport-Stamford would be higher....
But put in the high cost of living and the income inequality...there are tens of thousands of people who probably make less than half the $58k...
I thought Bridgeport-Stamford would be higher....
The list is for GMP, It does not have any association with income or cost of living. It is ranking the productivity of the residents. The value of the goods and services that they produce.
Then you could say Hartford has some productive residents..?
Hartford has some productive residents.
Connecticut and New York are very impressive in terms of GMP per capita.
All three major MSAs in Connecticut make the top 13 and all 5 major MSAs in New York make the top 14. In a list including 73 MSAs that is amazing.
1 Hartford $59,494 70.5
2 Bridgeport-Stamford $55,150 49.8
3 Washington $53,735 276.2
4 Boston $52,873 233.7
5 San Jose $52,154 90.8
6 Albany (NY) $51,361 43.4
7 Harrisburg $50,289 26.1
8 San Francisco-Oakland $49,373 204.9
9 Syracuse $49,083 32.1
10 Seattle-Tacoma $48,896 155.0
11 Buffalo $48,614 56.1
12 Rochester (NY) $48,319 50.3
13 New Haven $48,227 40.8
14 New York $48,172 901.3
All three major MSAs in Connecticut make the top 13 and all 5 major MSAs in New York make the top 14. In a list including 73 MSAs that is amazing.
1 Hartford $59,494 70.5
2 Bridgeport-Stamford $55,150 49.8
3 Washington $53,735 276.2
4 Boston $52,873 233.7
5 San Jose $52,154 90.8
6 Albany (NY) $51,361 43.4
7 Harrisburg $50,289 26.1
8 San Francisco-Oakland $49,373 204.9
9 Syracuse $49,083 32.1
10 Seattle-Tacoma $48,896 155.0
11 Buffalo $48,614 56.1
12 Rochester (NY) $48,319 50.3
13 New Haven $48,227 40.8
14 New York $48,172 901.3
And my town is right below them at #15Darrell said:Connecticut and New York are very impressive in terms of GMP per capita.
All three major MSAs in Connecticut make the top 13 and all 5 major MSAs in New York make the top 14. In a list including 73 MSAs that is amazing.
1 Hartford $59,494 70.5
2 Bridgeport-Stamford $55,150 49.8
3 Washington $53,735 276.2
4 Boston $52,873 233.7
5 San Jose $52,154 90.8
6 Albany (NY) $51,361 43.4
7 Harrisburg $50,289 26.1
8 San Francisco-Oakland $49,373 204.9
9 Syracuse $49,083 32.1
10 Seattle-Tacoma $48,896 155.0
11 Buffalo $48,614 56.1
12 Rochester (NY) $48,319 50.3
13 New Haven $48,227 40.8
14 New York $48,172 901.3
I guess I'd like to know more of what's "behind" the numbers. If the northeast, particularly NYS, is so badly off, how come these numbers would seem to indicate a a strong economy?
Are we still running on sheer fumes from the "powerhouse" industrial days of yore? We used to have TONS of jobs, and we still have yet more than we had when they all "left"; which would imply there are alot, just not alot open.
Or is this an indicator that we're on the rebound, and these numbers are just a precursor to more important indicator numbers that haven't quite cracked through yet?
Or is it completely meaningless, with respect to jobs/economy, etc?
Or some combination?
7 of those top 14 are in the vicinity of 50 or less GMP-Bil, and Hartford and San Jose are lower-mid range. Maybe this just reflects "bang for the buck", with an optimal economic size city (say 200,000-500,000 range)?
Are we still running on sheer fumes from the "powerhouse" industrial days of yore? We used to have TONS of jobs, and we still have yet more than we had when they all "left"; which would imply there are alot, just not alot open.
Or is this an indicator that we're on the rebound, and these numbers are just a precursor to more important indicator numbers that haven't quite cracked through yet?
Or is it completely meaningless, with respect to jobs/economy, etc?
Or some combination?
7 of those top 14 are in the vicinity of 50 or less GMP-Bil, and Hartford and San Jose are lower-mid range. Maybe this just reflects "bang for the buck", with an optimal economic size city (say 200,000-500,000 range)?
Yeah, fair enough.LosAngelesSportsFan said:Dont get ahead of yourself
Ok, my dad makes $200k and lives in Raleigh which has a much lower ranking. It's an average, it doesn't mean that's what everyone makes.
My dad makes... well, my daddy's dead.
Wah.
Wah.
Heh.
Or maybe not?
LOL
Or maybe not?
LOL
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