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its that time of year again... currie cup time!!!

Its going to be an interesting tournament this year with the sharks, bulls and WP losing quite a few players to the springboks, leaving the competition wide open...

July 2009
10 Boland v Platinum Leopards 15:30 Boland Stadium, Wellington
10 Vodacom Free State Cheetahs v GWK Griquas 19:10 Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein
11 Vodacom Blue Bulls v Xerox Lions 15:00 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
11 Vodacom Western Province v Sharks 17:05 Newlands Stadium, Cape Town
17 Sharks v Boland The Absa Stadium, Durban
18 Xerox Lions v Vodacom Free State Cheetahs 15:00 Coca-Cola Park Stadium, Johannesburg
18 GWK Griquas v Platinum Leopards 15:00 GWK Park, Kimberley
18 Vodacom Blue Bulls v Vodacom Western Province 17:05 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
24 Vodacom Western Province v Vodacom Free State Cheetahs 17:30 Newlands Stadium, Cape Town
24 Sharks v Vodacom Blue Bulls 19:30 The Absa Stadium, Durban
25 GWK Griquas v Boland GWK Park, Kimberley
25 Platinum Leopards v Xerox Lions Royal Bafokeng Sports Palace, Phokeng
31 Vodacom Western Province v Platinum Leopards Newlands Stadium, Cape Town
31 Xerox Lions v GWK Griquas 17:00 Coca-Cola Park Stadium, Johannesburg
31 Vodacom Free State Cheetahs v Sharks 19:10 Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein

August 2009
1 Vodacom Blue Bulls v Boland
7 Boland v Xerox Lions 15:30 Boland Stadium, Wellington
7 Vodacom Free State Cheetahs v Vodacom Blue Bulls 19:10 Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein
8 Platinum Leopards v Sharks Royal Bafokeng Sports Palace, Phokeng
8 GWK Griquas v Vodacom Western Province GWK Park, Kimberley
15 Boland v Vodacom Western Province 15:00 Boland Stadium, Wellington
15 GWK Griquas v Vodacom Blue Bulls 15:00 GWK Park, Kimberley
15 Xerox Lions v Sharks 16:05 Coca-Cola Park Stadium, Johannesburg
21 Vodacom Blue Bulls v Platinum Leopards 19:10 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
22 Vodacom Free State Cheetahs v Boland 15:00 Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein
22 Sharks v GWK Griquas 15:00 The Absa Stadium, Durban
22 Vodacom Western Province v Xerox Lions 17:05 Newlands Stadium, Cape Town
28 Platinum Leopards v Boland 19:10 Profert Olën Park, Potchefstroom
29 Sharks v Vodacom Western Province 15:00 The Absa Stadium, Durban
29 GWK Griquas v Vodacom Free State Cheetahs 15:00 GWK Park, Kimberley
29 Xerox Lions v Vodacom Blue Bulls 17:05 Coca-Cola Park Stadium, Johannesburg

September 2009
4 Boland v Sharks 15:30 Boland Stadium, Wellington
4 Platinum Leopards v GWK Griquas 19:10 Profert Olën Park, Potchefstroom
5 Vodacom Free State Cheetahs v Xerox Lions 15:00 Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein
5 Vodacom Western Province v Vodacom Blue Bulls 17:05 Newlands Stadium, Cape Town
11 Boland v GWK Griquas 13:30 Boland Stadium, Wellington
11 Xerox Lions v Platinum Leopards 19:10 Coca-Cola Park Stadium, Johannesburg
12 Vodacom Free State Cheetahs v Vodacom Western Province 15:00
12 Vodacom Blue Bulls v Sharks 17:05
18 Platinum Leopards v Vodacom Western Province 19:10 Profert Olën Park, Potchefstroom
19 Boland v Vodacom Blue Bulls 15:00 Boland Stadium, Wellington
19 GWK Griquas v Xerox Lions 15:00
19 Sharks v Vodacom Free State Cheetahs 17:05 The Absa Stadium, Durban
25 Sharks v Platinum Leopards 19:10 The Absa Stadium, Durban
26 Vodacom Western Province v GWK Griquas 15:00 Newlands Stadium, Cape Town
26 Xerox Lions v Boland 15:00 Coca-Cola Park Stadium, Johannesburg
26 Vodacom Blue Bulls v Vodacom Free State Cheetahs 17:05 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria

October 2009
2 Vodacom Free State Cheetahs v Platinum Leopards 19:10 Vodacom Park, Bloemfontein
3 Vodacom Blue Bulls v GWK Griquas 15:00 Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
3 Vodacom Western Province v Boland 15:00 Newlands Stadium, Cape Town
3 Sharks v Xerox Lions 17:05 The Absa Stadium, Durban
9 Platinum Leopards v Vodacom Blue Bulls 19:10 Royal Bafokeng Sports Palace, Phokeng
10 GWK Griquas v Sharks 15:00 GWK Park, Kimberley
10 Boland v Vodacom Free State Cheetahs 15:00 Boland Stadium, Wellington
10 Xerox Lions v Vodacom Western Province 17:05 Coca-Cola Park Stadium, Johannesburg

17 Semi - 1st v 4th 14:30
17 Semi - 2nd v 3rd 17:00
31 Final - Final 1A v Final 1B 17:00
 

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Pumas player could become a Shark
by Hendrik Cronjé



Juan Martin Hernandez could start a new chapter in his rugby career in the shadow of Table Mountain on July 11. This versatile Argentine international could play for the Sharks in a Currie Cup match against the Western Province.

After six seasons at Stade Francais, Hernandez now wants to measure himself against the best in South Africa and the southern hemisphere.

"Rumours that he has already been contracted by the Sharks are unfounded and premature although he would specifically prefer to live in Durban or Cape Town."

"He is open to other considerations given his desire to measure himself against the top players in South Africa and the southern hemisphere. Negotiations are continuing," said the well-known sporting agency, Essentially SA.

French websites earlier this week reported that Hernandez had already been contracted to the Sharks for a record amount.

The Sharks have lost significant depth over the past two seasons. The Durban-based side lost Bok flyhalf Butch James to Bath and Frans Steyn is on his way to Racing Metro after the Currie Cup.

Hernandez is just what the Sharks need for the Currie Cup series after their disappointing 2008 and 2009 Super 14 campaigns.

Western Province were apparently also interested in his services as the Cape side face uncertainty about Peter Grant's availability. It is expected that Grant could soon join Steyn at Racing Metro.

The agency, however, dispelled suggestions that only a record amount could entice Hernandez to South Africa.

"Hernandez is a very humble individual who doesn't expect to be paid more than his South African counterparts. He has had record offers from two French club teams but would rather play in South Africa."

"He wants to experience Currie Cup and Super 14 rugby while he is in the prime of his career," said the sporting agency.

"He is regarded by many French rugby experts as the most valuable player in the French Top 14 series. His decision is based largely on lifestyle and rugby experience. Finances have been pushed to the background."

Sport24 could not reach Sharks CEO Brian van Zyl or commercial manager Rudolf Straeuli for comment. Their cellphones were switched off.

http://www.superrugby.co.za
 

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It would be great to see an argentine playing the Currie Cup, but it would be even better to see an argentine team playing it. Argentina’s rugby union has created a professional team named the “Jaguars”, actually it is “Argentina A” team, but they are supported economically by the Arg rugby union, I’d love to see the Jaguars playing the Currie Cup, with JM Hernandez and other argentine top players.
 

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^^Jaguars would be better suited for the Super Rugby format, but in any case, I'd love to see Hernandez in the colours of the Sharks this season. With so many of our squad in the Bok team, we always need the help of some new players. Last year we had Freddie that brough so much to our team. Im hoping we can snap up Toquire as well since ARU fired him :lol:
 

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i wonder though what it is with the sharks and foreign flyhalfs.
they are actually wanting him for the S14 to play fullback... but ja i guess the only postion that the sharks like buying is flyhalf... thierry lacroix, Tony Brown, Gregor Townsend, Frederick Michalak, and now Hernandez...
 

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they are actually wanting him for the S14 to play fullback... but ja i guess the only postion that the sharks like buying is flyhalf... thierry lacroix, Tony Brown, Gregor Townsend, Frederick Michalak, and now Hernandez...
Add Aussies David Knox and Nathan Spooner to that and an English Flyhalf from around 94/95
 

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i wonder though what it is with the sharks and foreign flyhalfs.
His more of a center/full back player, though we may mold him into a flyhalf seeing that Ruan will be away for Tri Nations duty. Monty still hasnt proven his worth in the starting 11

Add Aussies David Knox and Nathan Spooner to that and an English Flyhalf from around 94/95
Also after 95 we approached Rob Andrew, but I guess he was too much of a mummy's boy & didnt want to leave England..
 

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na there was a an pom who came and played a bit , cant remember his name but he was like England B at the time
 

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^^Cant remember, anyway Hernandez hasnt signed as yet, but he seems keen. Also looks like WP also wanted him, but Freddie pursuaded him to look to us :D!

Sharks upbeat over Hernandez





Durban - While the to-ing and fro-ing over the possible signing of Argentine international Juan Martin Hernandez appears to still lie in the balance, coach John Plumtree has not ruled out the possibility that the Stade Française star will be turning out for the Sharks in the upcoming Absa Currie Cup.

Hernandez has wowed the crowds in Europe in top-flight rugby while his Rugby World Cup antics earned him accolades the rugby world over and news of his possible signing is making headlines.

While he is not likely to turn out for The Sharks in this weekend’s opening clash against Western Province, it looks certain that last year’s Under-19 star, Guy Cronje, will have the inside track at flyhalf.

Which seems to have solved one problem the Sharks encountered last year when, with many of their Springboks away for the first half of the tournament, they battled to settle on one player to run the ship.

While the start of this year’s Currie Cup mirrors that of 2008 for the Sharks, who had to make do without a number of players away on national duty, the emergence of Cronje as a probable solution has eased one selection headache for Plumtree.

“Last year it was frustrating because we weren’t able to settle on a flyhalf - I think we used five in the first five or six weeks,” the Sharks coach explained.

“Now we know we have one, so we have a head start in that position. If we’re able to sign Hernandez it will be great too because he’s world class.

“If we can get him signed, he’ll be out here on the next plane, he wants to come, that’s the most important thing. I think Fred’s (Frederic Michalak, the 50 Test veteran for France who won a Currie Cup medal with The Sharks last year and raved about the experience) passed on some good things. Reports from Paris are that whatever the conditions, sun or rain, Hernandez can do some freaky things.”

Cronje played at flyhalf for in the Sharks’ compulsory friendly against the Pumas on the weekend, which provided important answers to the question surrounding that vital position.

“I was very happy with Guy,” admitted Plumtree. “We’ll be looking at playing him at 10 because a lot of things about that position come naturally for him and he understands time and space, he’s going to be excellent in time. It will certainly be a baptism of fire for him in Cape Town, but we’ll put him in and see how he goes.”

With the British Lions series now a thing of the past and the Tri-Nations just around the corner, there was good news for the Sharks with the return to their province of Odwa Ndungane, Ryan Kankowski, Steven Sykes, Johann Muller and Deon Carstens, who will all add huge depth and experience in these early, testing times.

“The majority of them are forwards so we are still down a bit in terms of experience in the backs,” said Plumtree.

However, he did point out that of the team that runs out at Newlands on Saturday, “The majority of the team will have had Super 14 experience, and whether we get the right combinations, we’ll have to see.”
 

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Hoskins: 'Currie Cup is here to stay'



Suggestions that South Africa's premier domestic competition, the Currie Cup, is now a watered down series with an uncertain future has been summarily dismissed by South African Rugby Union President Oregan Hoskins.

Speaking, exclusively, to rugby365.com, Hoskins revealed that in South Africa the Currie Cup still attracts more "bums on seats" than Super Rugby.

It has been suggested that the expansion of Super Rugby from 2011 - which will see the Southern Hemisphere showpiece finish only in early August, as opposed to late May, and the Tri-Nations campaign continue to late September - will devalue the Currie Cup.

However, Hoskins said South Africans value the domestic rivalry that the Currie Cup brings and its unique characteristics will ensure it remains a high profile event for years to come.

"It is the only domestic competition in the world that enjoys such significant sponsorship," Hoskins told rugby365, adding: "It was best illustrated when we did the TV deal worth ZAR700-million [US$86-million] over five years."

The other vital aspect, according to Hoskins, of the sponsorship, is the fact the they were able to pull the Currie Cup sponsorship out of the SANZAR pot - ensuring that South Africa gets the full benefit of its domestic product.

"It is significant for us, because prior to that we were being paid for its value, but we were sharing it with our SANZAR partners," Hoskins said of the Currie Cup sponsorship.

It meant that New Zealand and Australia were able to enjoy part of the value of the Currie Cup TV sponsorship, while their domestic products - in the case of Australia it is nonexistent - were never in the pot.

"However, now we, as South Africans, can enjoy the [full] financial benefits of a wonderful competition," Hoskins said.

"In fact what is significant about the Currie Cup is that it enjoys better coverage - when you talk bums on seats - than Super Rugby.

"That is how important the Currie Cup is to South Africans.

"It can be argued that the [domestic] teams enjoy bigger support than the Super franchises and in a South African context it is bigger than Super Rugby.

"We are not trying to fake figures or doctor figures ...those are proven [figures]," the SARU boss added.

The Currie Cup competition gets underway on Friday when the Boland Cavaliers host the newcomers, the Leopards, in an afternoon game and the Free State Cheetahs face Griquas in the evening in Bloemfontein.

Saturday has two big derby games - the trans-Jukskei encounter featuring the Blue Bulls against the Lions and Western Province hosting the defending champion Sharks
 

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sharkies to maul the cape mountain goats
cows to beat cubs

Sharkies vs cows final AGAIN
 
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