[JamesWales]

The largest UK Cities: Residence Based Annual Earnings

London: £46,465
Aberdeen: £34,694
Edinburgh: £34,442
Cardiff: £29,999
Bristol: £29,309
Leeds: £29,098
Glasgow: £28,207
Sheffield: £28,030
Newcastle: £27,880
Birmingham: £27,787
Swansea: £27,325
Liverpool: £27,212
Portsmouth: £27,199
Nottingham: £27,158
Southampton: £26,883
Bradford: £26,354
Manchester: £26,058
Plymouth: £25,078
Leicester: £25,200

By Country:
England: £33,486
Scotland: £29,948
N.Ireland: £27,249
Wales: £27,187

A few thoughts:

1-Lies, damned lies and statistics ALWAYS applies!
2-No figures for Belfast unfortunately
3-For all that the UK is deemed a London-centric economy (which it is) the spread of the top 6 wage cities (London, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Cardiff, Bristol and Leeds) is very well spread out amongst the UK
4-The fact that 3 of the top 4 are 'capital cities' perhaps demonstrates the benefits of devolution in the UK, especially when compared to the national averages
5-What is happening in Manchester? A city that has seen unprecedented development but still seemingly a low-wage city? Are Manchester wages really £1,500 below those in Swansea?


Full Data here on the GMB Union site http://www.gmb.org.uk/pdf/2011 ASHE mean annual average.pdf

taken from the National Statistics Office here:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/publications/re-reference-tables.html?edition=tcm:77-235202

 

[Aaronj09]

Interesting. I assume that if you took the likes of Salford, Trafford, Stockport, Tameside and Oldham, Manchester's average wage would be higher than the likes of Sheffield and Newcastle, probably very similar to Leeds.

 

[JamesWales]

Interesting. I assume that if you took the likes of Salford, Trafford, Stockport, Tameside and Oldham, Manchester's average wage would be higher than the likes of Sheffield and Newcastle.

Trafford: £35,762
Stockport: £31,977
Tameside: £24,947
Oldham: £26,714

 

[Aaronj09]

Yup that's what I thought.. if you averaged the wage across those boroughs (plus Salford), the average wage would be above Glasgow.

 

[albionfagan]

Given the prices in London, 46K is probably the same as 26K up North

 

[LNGCats]

5-What is happening in Manchester? A city that has seen unprecedented development but still seemingly a low-wage city? Are Manchester wages really £1,500 below those in Swansea?

It is an inner city area with loads of poor people living there?

When people get older, get better paid jobs they move out to Trafford etc to settle down?

Those that don't move on tend to be those in the lower paid jobs who cannot afford to move to Trafford etc?

Bet if you were to look at Newham and Tower Hamlets they are way below the London average.

 

[Aaronj09]

As mentioned before, regeneration has benefited the city centre's of our regional cities but the inner areas remain poor and deprived (bar certain areas).

 

[Aaronj09]

Funny you mention Tower Halmets, it's the 7th wealthiest London borough. Virtually all London borough's have above national wages, even the deprived ones.

 

[LNGCats]

As mentioned before, regeneration has benefited the city centre's of our regional cities but the inner areas remain poor and deprived (bar certain areas).

Indeed, vanity projects.

Tower Hamlets has Canary Wharf, that will help average wages.

I take it the figure is the average wage of a resident, not sometime who works in those boroughs, that would give very different results.

 

[Delirium]

Tower Hamlets contains quite a number of notably wealthy areas (Canary Wharf is in Tower Hamlets) which distort things. Average wages, at least in isolation, aren't necessarily a good way to determine the level of deprivation in an area; particularly for London boroughs where there is much of a close juxtaposition between different socio-economic groups.

e.g Levels of deprivation in England: http://www.google.com/fusiontables/...7640296&lng=-0.00823974609375&z=12&t=1&l=col0

It is an inner city area with loads of poor people living there?

When people get older, get better paid jobs they move out to Trafford etc to settle down?

Those that don't move on tend to be those in the lower paid jobs who cannot afford to move to Trafford etc?

The same thing happens in Bristol, which has a much younger demographic than the surrounding authorities. Social housing is also in much greater quantity.

Bristol: £29,309
South Gloucestershire: £31,405
S-glos contains significant centres of employment and up to 170,000 people who live in what's known as the Bristol Fringe.
Bath and North East Somerset: 32,205
North Somerset: £33,242
Basically the mini-Cheshire or Surrey of the Westcountry.

 

[JamesWales]

It is an inner city area with loads of poor people living there?

When people get older, get better paid jobs they move out to Trafford etc to settle down?

Those that don't move on tend to be those in the lower paid jobs who cannot afford to move to Trafford etc?

Bet if you were to look at Newham and Tower Hamlets they are way below the London average.

Cheers. That's partly the case for many UK cities isn't it?

 

[Pablo Diablo]

It is an inner city area with loads of poor people living there?

When people get older, get better paid jobs they move out to Trafford etc to settle down?

Those that don't move on tend to be those in the lower paid jobs who cannot afford to move to Trafford etc?

Bet if you were to look at Newham and Tower Hamlets they are way below the London average.

Yup.
This will be the same situation for Liverpool, Birmingham and Nottingham too.

 

[LNGCats]

Cheers. That's partly the case for many UK cities isn't it?

Of course, but the degree to which it happens will vary greatly hugely impacting on the figures you posted.

 

[JayPeeDee]

Yup.
This will be the same situation for Liverpool, Birmingham and Nottingham too.

Indeed, Birmingham has Solihull on £37,856 and Sandwell on £24,478.

 

[MancKnight]

'Residence based' So most of the people earning a lot in the City Centre or in 'Manchester' proper don't live in 'Manchester' proper, they most likely live in the suburbs (Ie. Trafford) or in Cheshire.

 

[morestoreysplease]

Any figures for Dudley MBC? Because there are some nice suburbs around the Halesowen and Stourbridge areas. Ah I just read the pdf - 25922.

 

[Boards]

Yup that's what I thought.. if you averaged the wage across those boroughs (plus Salford), the average wage would be above Glasgow.

Well, if you wanted to make the comparison you would have to include Glasgow's wealthiest suburbs which aren't part of the Glasgow City local authority.

East Renfrewshire £39,230

East Dunbartonshire £35,628

 

[LNGCats]

So basically it is almost impossible to see anything in these figures outside of London?

 

[Boards]

For underbounded cities, pretty much. But you know that. I'm sure certain people will champion them, good PR. You could mull over disposable income too.

 

[Aaronj09]

I assume when the government release figures like these they aren't really bothered whether or not cities are underbounded.