2017 Recap / 2018 Preview

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FloridaFuture

Discussion Starter · Dec 25, 2017 (Edited)

Here's the old threads:

2014 Recap / 2015 Preview
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1784107

2015 Recap / 2016 Preview
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1874105

2016 Recap / 2017 Preview:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1964721

Major Projects that Broke Ground/Began Site Work in 2017:

USF Medical School
Virage Bayshore
Current
Manor Riverwalk
Altis Grand Central
Avenue Lofts
6000 North Florida (Milhaus)
ZOM Rocky Point
Westshore Marina District stuff

Major Projects Completed in 2017:

Icon Harbour Island
UT 10 Story Dorm
The Morrison
Aquatica?

The Wall of Shame - Projects we went a whole year on without significant news or progress:

Encore hotel/condo pads
2907 Bayshore
Port Tampa Bay redevelopment

Top 10 headlines of 2017:

10. The Crosstown will be connected to the Gandy Bridge

9. Kress building gets a new owner

8. Jackson Street protected bike lane is announced and begins construction

7. USF Med School goes Vertical in Downtown Tampa

6. Individual Lots for Water Street Tampa are revealed in detail

5. The Hall on Franklin Opens

4. 220 Madison fiasco and parking minimums becoming a hot topic in general

3. HRI’s Hyatt RFP fiasco

2. The Tampa Bay area makes a bid for Amazon HQ2

1. Rays Stadium Proposal Gets a Concrete Location

FF's 2017 Project of the Year: Nine 15
Nine 15 is an overall strong use of a full CBD city block. The project isn't flawless, most notably its lack of retail on Florida, but look at it this way: if every CBD block was developed to such density Downtown would be as vibrant as we want it. Nine15 also got a boost late in the year by the announcement of its restaurant tenant Osteria, which helped it edge out The Hall on Franklin for the award.
In naming project of the year it's not necessarily the tallest or biggest project. I look at its impact to the neighborhood, its design and relative size to the neighborhood it's in.

FF's past Projects of the Year:
Post SoHo Square - 2014
Skyhouse Channelside - 2015
The Morrison - 2016

Projects Supposed to begin construction in 2018:

Riverwalk Place (2nd quarter)
J.W. Marriott (1st quarter)
815 Water Street
Meridian Hampton Inn & Home2 Suites (1st quarter)
Channelside Renovation

What we project could break ground in 2018 but don't have concrete news on:

Straz Tower
Modera Tampa
Several North Hyde Park low/mid rises
Several Ybor low/mid rises

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HARTride 2012

· #2 · Dec 25, 2017

At least ground will finally break on the Selmon Extension in 2018. Also, work will wrap up on the Gandy Freeway in Pinellas.

Sadly though, Gateway Express will also begin. We need the connection, but not the tolls. We'll also see the 2nd phase of the Veterans Express be completed and people will see how Miami Madness works firsthand.

For transit, UGH! Very disappointing year and year ahead for the most part. Outside of the TBARTA Restructuring and more studies, just the same old shenanigans. Everything continues to be, "build the toll lanes if you want better transit" charades. Oh, and to cap everything off, we lost Katharine Eagan to Pittsburgh.

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Szemeredy

· #3 · Dec 25, 2017 (Edited)

HARTride 2012 said:
Oh, and to cap everything off, we lost Katharine Eagan to Pittsburgh.

She's not the only visionary employed by HART. There's a lot of fresh blood in management positions at the agency now, which means new ideas and a fresh mindset. It takes a team, and she was only one part of that.

TampaMike

· #4 · Dec 26, 2017

Going into 2018, I wonder if we will see the same amount or a lower amount of proposals for the Tampa Bay Area. Especially with apartments and hotels, is the market getting saturated where demand might not be that high as previous years? And will we see an increase of condos or split projects like condos and apartments or condos and hotel rooms?

2017 has definitely been a good year for St. Pete as well. ONE is an obvious and will likely be 2018 Project of the Year. Hyatt Place adjoining added much needed hotel rooms to the area. We had many midsize projects break ground, including Bainbridge’s 930 Central. Edge District saw numerous proposals that will hopefully come to fruition. Pier “broke water” this year. Retail and restaurants had a great year in St. Pete. Rays have yet to decide where home will be in 5 years, but looking more and more likely it won’t be St. Pete. Manhattan Casino got a new tenant, as “controversial” as it was. And 2018 might be the year I move to downtown to attend USFSP, which I’m already in!

I do wonder how these Tax Cuts might affect development. From what I can tell, it should help developers. And almost everyone will see a tax cut, which will bring in extra income. And corporations will benefit as well, so maybe more job creation at a corporate level.... which means filling in office vacancy faster. Looking past the political aspect of the tax cuts, how much benefit will the Bay Area witness in 2018?

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Dale

· #5 · Dec 26, 2017

We may not need to talk in terms of "this cycle." It may just keep going.

densitymatters

· #6 · Dec 26, 2017

I believe site work has already started on the channelside hotel

TampaMike

· #7 · Dec 26, 2017

densitymatters said:
I believe site work has already started on the channelside hotel

That’s definitely good news! Would love to see one more midrange quality hotel proposed for Channelside, think the market will still be there for another one even when this is completed.

I’m still hoping that Encore can get their hotel project off the ground, but I’ve somewhat have always been pessimistic that the tall hotel proposal that has been envisioned in multiple renders were too ambitious. If the Rays weren’t eliminated from the Tampa Parks Apartments site, chances would be higher. But I believe Shaw will capitalize on a hotel proposal with him owning the TECO site.

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Grumbo

· #8 · Dec 27, 2017

densitymatters said:
I believe site work has already started on the channelside hotel

Yup there is a crawler crane on site and dirt is turned up.

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apartmentev

· #9 · Dec 28, 2017

I'm excited for Clearwater to begin some work on the Gateway and the New waterfront park. Dr. Patel's med school should be under construction as well.

Artisan Lofts in Dunedin should be complete in 2018 and it will have a grocery store in the bottom which is huge for Dunedin. The building on the corner of Main and Douglas should start construction as well.

St. Pete is slated to have a big year. The opening of Avanti, One St Pete, and 930 Central Flats. THat is about 1,200 new people right there. Hopefully, groundbreakings occur for Halcyon, Galaxy hotel, First Ave Lofts, and another project I can't talk about. Maybe some movement on the World Liquors site too.

Oh, Tampa is doing well too (you guys have that covered lol)

North Gap of Duke Energy Trail should be under construction soon as should the section connecting Sunset Pt to Old Coachman Rd. Clearwater is under construction on the Druid Trail which will be the first East/West connection of the Duke Energy and Pinellas Trail.

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Dale

· #10 · Dec 28, 2017

^ How about the long-planned BRT for St. Pete ?

apartmentev

· #11 · Dec 28, 2017

Dale said:
^ How about the long-planned BRT for St. Pete ?

That won't be breaking ground any time soon especially with Trump, but I hope the BRT does happen.

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braineater2448

· #12 · Dec 29, 2017

apartmentev said:
I'm excited for Clearwater to begin some work on the Gateway and the New waterfront park. Dr. Patel's med school should be under construction as well.

Artisan Lofts in Dunedin should be complete in 2018 and it will have a grocery store in the bottom which is huge for Dunedin. The building on the corner of Main and Douglas should start construction as well.

St. Pete is slated to have a big year. The opening of Avanti, One St Pete, and 930 Central Flats. THat is about 1,200 new people right there. Hopefully, groundbreakings occur for Halcyon, Galaxy hotel, First Ave Lofts, and another project I can't talk about. Maybe some movement on the World Liquors site too.

Oh, Tampa is doing well too (you guys have that covered lol)

North Gap of Duke Energy Trail should be under construction soon as should the section connecting Sunset Pt to Old Coachman Rd. Clearwater is under construction on the Druid Trail which will be the first East/West connection of the Duke Energy and Pinellas Trail.

Onyx apartments, World Liquors site, Halcyon, First North Lofts, EDGE Parking Garage/retail/apartments, and another project I cant talk about yet should break ground in DTSP in 2018. Thats a lot of apartments. I wouldnt be surprised if one or two went condo.

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jay101

· #13 · Jan 3, 2018

braineater2448 said:
Onyx apartments, World Liquors site, Halcyon, First North Lofts, EDGE Parking Garage/retail/apartments, and another project I cant talk about yet should break ground in DTSP in 2018. Thats a lot of apartments. I wouldnt be surprised if one or two went condo.

Any large scale development coming soon keep hearing rumors that there is. And will we see anything with the cheese grater site?

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FloridaFuture

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 5, 2018

17 projects, $500 million set to transform St. Pete’s skyline

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busine...-set-to-transform-St-Pete-s-skyline_164128282

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FLAWDA-FELLA

· #15 · Jan 5, 2018

^^ 12: Mixed-use tower: 400 block of Central Ave: 40-50 stories

I remember this project was first announced back in 2016, but I would love to see St. Pete's skyline finally break the 500' threshold and wondering if this is the project that may actually achieve that. :dunno:

jay101

· #16 · Jan 5, 2018

FLAWDA-FELLA said:
^^ 12: Mixed-use tower: 400 block of Central Ave: 40-50 stories

I remember this project was first announced back in 2016, but I would love to see St. Pete's skyline finally break the 500' threshold and wondering if this is the project that may actually achieve that. :dunno:

I’m hoping it’s a twin tower 40-50. The developer says at.pete needs a skyline and I hope this achieves that.

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Nexis

· #17 · Jan 6, 2018

Do you have a map of all the projects underway in Tampa?

FloridaFuture

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jan 6, 2018

Nexis said:
Do you have a map of all the projects underway in Tampa?

Business Journal keeps this map, though it doesn't have everything and isn't quite up to date:

https://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/maps/crane-watch

TOC Owner

· #19 · Jan 31, 2018

The link below was an interesting article today in the Business Journal. Per the article, Plaza Construction opened an office in Tampa In December. The company is currently building the "1000 MUSEUM" in Miami, a 62 story condo. We must be the "next" hot condo market.

https://www.bizjournals.com/tampaba...0DStO1+qDzXYA0127ff5a&t=1517356916&j=79710461

NaqoyqatZ

· #20 · Jan 31, 2018

"Subscribe to get the full story." When it comes down to a reasonable level, I'll consider it.

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