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This store will be part of a new lifestyle center being developed in the Charlotte area with an “all brick” theme.





Posted on Wed, May. 11, 2005

A Gothic Wal-Mart?

The Wal-Mart Supercenter planned for Montcross won't look like any other in the country.

The all-brick exterior will feature Gothic-style architecture resembling the buildings on the Belmont Abbey campus across Interstate 85.

"We wanted that look," said Bill Monroe of WGM Design Inc., which created the mixed-use project's master plan. "We want all the property to be perceived as a unified development."

Wal-Mart plans to start construction in 30 to 45 days on land leased from the Southern Benedictine Society of North Carolina, which supports the college.

Wal-Mart spokesman Glen Wilkins hasn't seen the design.

But, he said, "We're trying to make sure we are more a part of the community. We try to build stores people are going to be happy with."

Monroe said the Benedictine Society has the right to review and approve all building designs on its property.

"We will continue to expect brick facilities with a suggestion of Gothic architecture on all buildings," he said. "For instance, the Hampton Inn & Suites (planned for Montcross) will also be all brick with Gothic detailing."

Here’s the full article about the Montcross development:

Posted on Wed, May. 11, 2005

The next Ballantyne?

Years of talk jell into mixed-use vision along I-85

DOUG SMITH

The Next Big Thing

Years of talk jell into mixed-use vision for 5 miles along I-85 The next big thing in mixed-use development might be just across the Mecklenburg line in Gaston County -- within 20 minutes of uptown Charlotte.

Montcross doesn't have the name recognition of Ballantyne, but real estate watchers believe development along this five-mile stretch of Interstate 85 could become Gaston's answer to south Mecklenburg's 2,000-acre mixed-use development.

They see shops, offices, homes, hotels and medical facilities popping up on nearly 1,100 acres between two interchanges. . The largest portion of Montcross lies in Belmont, but parts of Mount Holly, McAdenville and Cramerton also touch its boundaries.

Bill Monroe, whose WGM Design Inc. of Charlotte created the development plan, believes that in 20 to 30 years it could grow to an employment base of at least 10,000 and generate millions in new investment.

The experts don't challenge that prediction.

Homeowners already have discovered Gaston, where residential development is booming, particularly along the South Point peninsula below Belmont.

And Interstate 485's interchange with I-85 has opened within two miles of Belmont's city limit, greatly improving access via the outerbelt to most of Mecklenburg.

"That enhances the whole economic position of Gaston County," said real estate analyst Frank Warren of Warren & Associates in Charlotte.

The conversations that led to Montcross began about three years ago when the founders of Belmont Abbey College and Gaston's mill families realized their mutual interest in promoting quality growth could benefit the college and the community.

Now, things are beginning jell.

The landowners have a master plan for development, and a unifying name -- Montcross -- was unveiled just last week. Construction will start soon on property across I-85 from Belmont Abbey.

It's no surprise they're recognizing the region's westward growth and positioning their county to take advantage of it, Warren said.

"They have owned the land for a long time, and now the market has evolved to a point where a true mixed-use concept can be supported there," he said.

Donny Hicks, executive director of the Gaston County Economic Development Commission, said developers have expressed interest in the property over the past 20 to 30 years.

"But the timing has never been better," he said. "We're in the very early stages of how we are going to start marketing it."

The Southern Benedictine Society of North Carolina's need to generate an endowment for its monastery and Belmont Abbey, which it founded and sponsors, provided the catalyst for the landowners coming together.

The other participants are Pharr Yarns Inc., Alliance Real Estate III Inc. (the real estate arm of Parkdale Mills) and R.L. Stowe Mills Inc.

The partners formed a limited liability company called ASPA LLC to commission the master plan, but each ownership entity controls its property individually.

The nearly 500 acres of the Benedictine Society's land in Montcross will be leased long-term rather than sold, because the society is seeking a perpetual income stream to support the college and monastery. The other landowners expect to sell their parcels for development.

Alliance members emphasize they're more interested in making decisions in the best interest of the college and community than in turning a quick profit.

"This is a bit unique in that these landowners are going to continue to live in the community," Warren said. "They have to be good stewards of the land, because they will have to live with the results."

One of the first developments people will see is a Wal-Mart Supercenter across I-85 from the college and monastery.

The Benedictine Society touched off a controversy in Belmont three years ago when it announced plans to lease 25 acres of a 130-acre retail tract it owns to the nation's largest retailer.

Now, with a favorable vote behind it and a long-term lease agreement in hand, Wal-Mart expects to start construction of a roughly 187,000-square-foot Supercenter in 30 to 45 days.

Company officials says construction typically takes about 10 months.

Charlotte's Faison Enterprises is helping with development of the retail center, which likely will attract a variety of restaurants and shops seeking to be near the Supercenter.

Also, the Benedictine Society is preparing to announce that Hampton Inn & Suites will build a 101-room hotel on the retail tract, where construction crews are installing about three miles of streets in preparation for tenants.

Monroe of WGM Design said the hotel chain elevated its opinion of the site from good to great when it realized the lodging facility would be near two tourist attractions -- Stowe Botanical Garden and the whitewater park, to open next spring on the Mecklenburg side of the Catawba River.

He said hotel construction likely will begin this fall and probably be completed by next summer.

Monroe expects eventually to see a retirement community and medical offices join the Montcross development, as the college and the landowners feed off each other's projects.

"The philosophy is what's good for one is good for all," he said.

Why Montcross?

• The landowners in ASPA LLC chose the name Montcross to unify and brand their planned development along I-85.

• The name "speaks to our crossroads location off I-85 just across the Catawba River from Charlotte," said Harding Stowe, president and chief executive of R.L. Stowe Mills Inc. and managing member of ASPA. The geographic area also encompasses much of BelMONT and isn't far from Spencer Mountain.

The Montcross logo is a stylized red-brick "M" that evokes Gothic arches, flying buttresses and other architectural features reminiscent of Belmont Abbey. Charlotte advertising and public relations firm Luquire George Andrews designed the logo.

Link: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/business/columnists/doug_smith/11615788.htm
 

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Oh come on, if the yuppies in South Charlotte can have Phillips Place, why can’t the “Necks” in Gaston County have their upscale Wally World?

And actually, I spoke wrong; I don’t think this would be considered a “lifestyle center”.
 

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Lol...i couldn't cope with it sorry :lurker: .. . . but it reminds me so much to that South Park episode
 

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trash. pure trash.

'like not other' and they give that ugly rendering? that's about as generic as it gets for a friggin walmart. that's so stupid. i've had enough of this entire story.
 

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Nothing says class like a Wal-Mart with spires. Who knew you could add a gabled entry way to a Wal-Mart and call it "gothic"?

Looks like every tacky suburban strip development in America.
 

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What has happened to our country, when developers give themselves a pat on the back and consumers get a boner just because a Wal-Mart decided to slap some bricks on its newest store. It's just sad, especially considering the relatively high quality of construction and architectual integrity that we had when we were a much less affluent nation.
 

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Go from regular Wal-mart to GOTHIC Wal-mart in three easy steps.

1) Replace painted brick with red.
2) Replace plastic "Always" sign with stock arched windows.
3) Finally, for that knock 'em dead gothic appeal, add plastic finials to either side of the gabled entrance!

And there you have it! Now you too can build Gothic wonders! Eat your heart out Notre Dame the secret’s been cracked!

Honestly, those are the only differences between this Wal-Mart and the generic off the shelf model. The fact that they are insulting enough to assume that people believe that they are putting "care and time" into this design is nauseating.
 

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Looks like a spitting image of an "urban" Super-Walmart that opened about 9 months ago in the industrial side of the Warehouse District near Downtown New Orleans. There is a difference, though. I don't know how this Wal-Mart's parking lot will be, but, the one in New Orleans is divided nicely into different sections with large swaths of greenery and trees that divide the parking lot into quite a few different sections. It's only a mile from my house, so I utilize it with all the bohemians that live in this part of town. It's actually an interesting excursion seeing the people at this Wal-Mart in New Orleans. The ones in the suburbs are cluttered with bland parking lots, a big rectangular store, and loads of Mommy's and Daddy's with annoying, misbehaving children. :D
 

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This reminds me of an Ingles grocery store in Fletcher, perhaps the worst of Asheville's suburbs. The store is across the street from Calvary Episcopal Church, a very historic house of worship that dates to before the Civil War and was once commonly known as the "Westminster Abbey of the South." In deference to the historic church and cemetery across the street, Ingles went all out. They turned the store away from the road, so that it faced its parking lot rather than the church across Hendersonville Road, and -- wait for it -- they built the wall facing the street out of brick!

Golly. If you didn't know any better, you'd think the church had just expanded to the land across the street. Really. :no:
 

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That isn't gothic. Not even close. Looks like any other non-blue-box version of WM.

If you want to see a nice WM, look at the one in Anchorage.
 

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Justadude said:
At least it's a step in the right direction. You're not going to get much better out of these huge retail corporations.
Exactly, we cant turn back now, we arent going to just cease building these things and decide main street america will rule again, so as long as they are building them they might as well look a little nicer. Granted its not gourgeous, for a big box it sure isnt appalling or as appaling as a giant cinder block warehouse.
 

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That isn't gothic. Not even close. Looks like any other non-blue-box version of WM.

If you want to see a nice WM, look at the one in Anchorage.
I agree that its not neccesarily gothic LOL, but I would like to see that one in Anchorage, do you have a picture or did you just see it in person?
 

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Anchorage got the hooty-tooty one. They got rejected in two places in Atlanta in the last few months so when the proposed one on northside drive at I-75 they pulled out all the bag of tricks. It even has a parking deck and rumer is it will have hardwood floors. They had to do something Target is putting four more stores in the city.
 
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