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Aboriginal leaders have threatened to ban tourists from one of Australia's top landmarks in protest at what they describe as racist government policies.

The warning over Uluru comes one year since police and soldiers were sent into indigenous settlements to try to tackle high rates of child sex abuse.

Bans on alcohol and pornography were introduced along with strict controls on how welfare payments were spent.

But Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said he remained committed to the initiative.

Addressing an Australian Labor Party conference in Queensland, Mr Rudd said the government's priority was to improve the lives of indigenous people.

"Progress has been made in the last 12 months, but much remains to be done to meet our targets to close the gap on indigenous life opportunities," he said.

'Racist legislation'

The so-called "intervention" in the Northern Territory was introduced by former Prime Minster John Howard's conservative government.

Chronic disadvantage had led to Aboriginal life expectancy being 17 years below that of other Australians.

In response to a damning report about widespread child abuse, troops, police officers and medical teams were sent to more than 70 indigenous communities.

But 12 months after the intervention began, tribal leaders from Central Australia have threatened to ban tourists from climbing Uluru, also known as Ayers Rock.

Vince Forrester, an elder from the Mutitjulu people, who are the rock's traditional custodians, told a rally in Sydney that the government's actions had been a disaster.

He insisted that Aboriginal men had been portrayed as violent alcoholics who beat women and abuse children.

"We've got to take some affirmative action to stop this racist piece of legislation.

"We're going to throw a big rock on top of the tourist industry... we will close the climb and no one will climb Uluru ever again, no one," he told the meeting.

The BBC's Phil Mercer in Sydney says that critics of the policy say that young Aborigines are still vulnerable to sexual assault despite the intervention.
 

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funny thing i heard is that, before Uluru became a national and international tourist destination, the older generation of the aborigines said that big rock is cursed or a bad luck place or something
 

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Why dont the abbos just live in huts and hunt from the land like the used to,
its obviouse they dont want to live 1st world way of life,
so i think yeah they should get of the booze and start spearing shit and doing fire dances agean. they think they got it so bad but they braught it on them self,
they can still do anything they could do 500 years ago
fucking oath
 

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Well yes the "intervention" is a government policy that discriminates based on race so they have a legitimate gripe I suppose.

broadie you really are a Queenslander huh?

Can you imagine what kind of impression comments like that make on international visitors to this section? I'm not saying that you can't post it, you're free to your own opinion of course, but I never see such drivel about "pakis", "******" and "******s" when I visit the UK, Canada or US forums
 

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Why dont the abbos just live in huts and hunt from the land like the used to,
its obviouse they dont want to live 1st world way of life,
so i think yeah they should get of the booze and start spearing shit and doing fire dances agean. they think they got it so bad but they braught it on them self,
they can still do anything they could do 500 years ago
fucking oath
man you are a pathetic joke
 

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How racist - trying to stop physical and sexual abuse of children. Just so, so racist.
Actually there's no two ways about it - it is racist, simply because they are laws enacted specifically towards one race, under the guise of child protection - almost suggesting that similar problems are not happening in the broader community.

Here are some comments from Crikey in relation to the adelaide child abuse story...

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The facts behind the Adelaide yarn are astounding. According to workers in the area quoted today, there are about 310,000 notifications to child protection authorities each year which end in some 58,000 substantiated cases of child abuse or neglect across the country. Child protection workers are overwhelmed.

The timing of this revelation throws an interesting light on the figures that accompanied last week's reporting of the NT Intervention's first anniversary. After the completion of 7,433 of the intervention's federally mandated checks on children in remote Territory communities, 39 were found to be at risk of serious neglect or abuse.

It looks as though the parenting in remote Aboriginal communities might have something going for it after all.
There are no doubt many high risk socio economic groups within the broader community, but we simply have no way of cordoning them off and placing restrictions on them en masse. Even if we did, it probably wouldn't be tolerated - and rightly so.

Sadly in this country, all it takes is someone to scream "think of the children" for all logic to be thrown out the window.

I say good on the Aboriginies for using one of the few bargaining chips they have. It'll highlight both the problem and the "solution" to the wider world - which can only be a good thing.

(PS: Can someone legislate for a "Broadie intervention" - he must be getting close to breeding age, and we need to take whatever steps are necessary in order to break the cycle of childhood boganity in suburban communities.) ;)
 

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Why dont the abbos just live in huts and hunt from the land like the used to,
its obviouse they dont want to live 1st world way of life,
so i think yeah they should get of the booze and start spearing shit and doing fire dances agean. they think they got it so bad but they braught it on them self,
they can still do anything they could do 500 years ago
fucking oath
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If I post what I really think about this subject - I will offend!!!
 

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Actually there's no two ways about it - it is racist, simply because they are laws enacted specifically towards one race, under the guise of child protection - almost suggesting that similar problems are not happening in the broader community.

Here are some comments from Crikey in relation to the adelaide child abuse story...



There are no doubt many high risk socio economic groups within the broader community, but we simply have no way of cordoning them off and placing restrictions on them en masse. Even if we did, it probably wouldn't be tolerated - and rightly so.

Sadly in this country, all it takes is someone to scream "think of the children" for all logic to be thrown out the window.

I say good on the Aboriginies for using one of the few bargaining chips they have. It'll highlight both the problem and the "solution" to the wider world - which can only be a good thing.

(PS: Can someone legislate for a "Broadie intervention" - he must be getting close to breeding age, and we need to take whatever steps are necessary in order to break the cycle of childhood boganity in suburban communities.) ;)
Whats the solution?

If there is a possible case of child abuse then it must be acted upon despite race.

To say this is racist really is quite unfair. They are targeting an area where child abuse and neglect has been reported widely within the community so they must act on it. If this area happens to be all aboriginal well that can't be helped.

Child abuse unfortunately happens everywhere but in the city and major towns there are better mechanisms in place to try and stop it. In remote communities, cut off from everyone, those mechanisms aren't in place so this intevrention was completely justified for the government. One of the few things I agree with the Howard government on.

Sadly in this country, all it takes is someone to scream "racist" for all logic to be thrown out the window.
 

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Well yes the "intervention" is a government policy that discriminates based on race so they have a legitimate gripe I suppose.

broadie you really are a Queenslander huh?

Can you imagine what kind of impression comments like that make on international visitors to this section? I'm not saying that you can't post it, you're free to your own opinion of course, but I never see such drivel about "pakis", "******" and "******s" when I visit the UK, Canada or US forums
I think Broadie was Joking.

And whats with the 'Queenslander' swipe. Being from Sydney you would be far more likely to be racist and narrow minded. Need I remind you about Cronulla?

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If there is a possible case of child abuse then it must be acted upon despite race.
I agree. But I'm a little amazed that the reporting on the 1 year anniversary of the intervention seems to have covered the slight improvements in health and living standards, but almost nothing of the result of the invention on child abuse among remote communities. I haven't heard of people being arrested, let alone convicted for these crimes, which makes me wonder if we have acted with a heavy dose of age old assumptions like "they can't look after their kids, so we need to do something" instead of evidence that would normally be required in non-indigenous Australia.

Still, what's been done has been done, and it's good that the invention seem to have brought the media spotlight back to the real issues like poor health and living standards facing some of the most vulnerable Australians instead of going on and on about symbolism.


Sadly in this country, all it takes is someone to scream "racist" for all logic to be thrown out the window.
And sometimes unfortunately we scream "racist" so fast to tiny little insignificant things that we fail to realise the underlying and real feelings of prejudice that might have been prevailing.
 

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Why dont the abbos just live in huts and hunt from the land like the used to,
its obviouse they dont want to live 1st world way of life,
so i think yeah they should get of the booze and start spearing shit and doing fire dances agean. they think they got it so bad but they braught it on them self,
they can still do anything they could do 500 years ago
fucking oath
Wow! Are you as stupid as you sound?
 

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I agree. But I'm a little amazed that the reporting on the 1 year anniversary of the intervention seems to have covered the slight improvements in health and living standards, but almost nothing of the result of the invention on child abuse among remote communities. I haven't heard of people being arrested, let alone convicted for these crimes, which makes me wonder if we have acted with a heavy dose of age old assumptions like "they can't look after their kids, so we need to do something" instead of evidence that would normally be required in non-indigenous Australia.

Still, what's been done has been done, and it's good that the invention seem to have brought the media spotlight back to the real issues like poor health and living standards facing some of the most vulnerable Australians instead of going on and on about symbolism.




And sometimes unfortunately we scream "racist" so fast to tiny little insignificant things that we fail to realise the underlying and real feelings of prejudice that might have been prevailing.
There must have been some evidence that it was happening and wide spread. And so they were wrong as to how widespread it was. So what?

To not act on information would be a far worse outcome, especially if they were found to be true.

And I agree. Everything is considered racist these days (unless its about a white person) and it is a mockery of actual incidents of racism.
 

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If you have had the disgusting privilege of seeing the way many rural Aboriginals live i would hardly call it racist. I have seen how well many communities operate in Rural Australia equally. Ironically areas around Uluru are some of the worst.
 

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WHAT THE . IS WITH PEOPLE AND GRAMMAR ON THIS FORUM!

. . . IT IS A DISGRACE . IT. BROADIE CALLING ABORIGINIES ABO'S AND SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BEHAVE LIKE CAVE PEOPLE PEOPLE THIS IS .ED UP. .. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A .ING FORUM THAT HAS USED THE WORD . . . SO MANY .ING TIMES . IT. . THE DIP. HERE AND COMMUNISTS AND RAPISTS AND BSD AND LEARN TO .ING SPELL SOME REAL . GOT .IT. .ING HELL, IS GRAMMAR IN .ING AUSTRALIA A .ING RARITY GOD .IT. . THE WORLD!

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WHAT THE . IS WITH PEOPLE AND GRAMMAR ON THIS FORUM!
:eek:kay:

Let's corner off Surfer's Paradise at schoolies. This is not to stop people going in (the entry gate is fully open) but to keep anyone there in so as not to be let loose on a drunken rampage. Caging up the animals is the best way :D
 
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