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Current Major Public Transports for the Adelaide Metropolitan - As of 18/05/09

Belair Line (heavy rail)
Work to be done: Rebuild/Resleepering
Work to start: Started April 2009
Work to be completed: August 2009

Dry Creek Depot (heavy rail)

Work to be done: Construction
Work to start: Started Early 2009
Work to be completed: 2011

Entertainment Centre Line (light rail)
Work to be done: Construction
Work to start: Started April 2009
Work to be completed: Early 2010

Gawler Line (heavy rail)

Work to be done: Resleepering & Electrification
Work to start: 2010
Work to be completed: 2013

Grange Line (light rail)

Work to be done: Unknown (No specific details have been released)

Lonsdale Depot (heavy rail)

Work to be done: Expansion
Work to start: 2009
Work to be completed: 2010/2011

Noarlunga Line (heavy rail)
Work to be done: Resleepering & Electrification
Work to start: 2011
Work to be completed: 2013/2014

O-Bahn (busway)

Work to be done: Extension into CBD
Work to start: Late 2009
Work to be completed: 2011

Outer Harbor Line (heavy rail)
Work to be done: Electrification
Work to start: Unknown
Work to be completed: 2014/2015

Seaford Line (heavy rail)

Work to be done: Construction
Work to start: 2010
Work to be completed: 2013

Semaphore Line (light rail)
Work to be done: Construction
Work to start: Unknown
Work to be completed: 2018

Ticketing System (train/tram/bus)

Work to be done: Replacement of current system
Work to be completed: 2012/2013

Tonsley Line (heavy rail)
Work to be done: Unknown (No specific details have been released)

West Lakes Line (light rail)

Work to be done: Construction
Work to start: Unknown
Work to be completed: 2015

This doesn't include the new rolling stock, trams and buses Adelaide will get over the next 5-10 years
Cheers to Norman @ Sensational-Adelaide for the information.
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Budget first step to electric trains
MICHAEL OWEN, POLITICAL REPORTER

May 28, 2007 02:15am
Article from: The Advertiser

ADELAIDE'S ailing rail system will get funding for a major upgrade in next week's State Budget as part of the first step toward electrifying the network.

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In another sign that infrastructure spending is the Government's key Budget priority, improvements such as rail track and signalling upgrades are understood to have been allocated significant amounts.

This will stem pressure on the Government to curb problems with overcrowded and late trains, while starting the overhaul of Adelaide's outdated diesel-powered network.

It is understood the Government has decided to focus on upgrading the rail network rather than commit to further extensions of the Adelaide-Glenelg tram line.

This rail upgrade initially will concentrate on improving existing lines rather than creating new links or buying new trains.

Treasurer Kevin Foley yesterday refused to comment on measures in the June 7 Budget but Opposition Leader Martin Hamilton-Smith said moves to electrify Adelaide's rail network were long overdue.

An electric network is considered more reliable, less noisy and more environmentally friendly. It has been estimated electrifying Adelaide's train network would cost between $235 million and $500 million.

But Railway Technical Society of Australasia vice chairman Martin Baggott yesterday said track and signal upgrades were vital first steps in any move toward electrification.

"The fundamental thing is to upgrade the track, which really means making it suitable to be able to take trains that inevitably are going to accelerate and brake faster and probably travel at faster speeds," he said. "The other portion of the network is the signalling system. With an electric system the signalling needs to be constructed so that it is suitable with all the electric currents."

Other considerations, such as adequate overhead space in rail corridors to take the increased height of electric railcars, could be done at the same time as any track upgrade, he said.

"One thing they would be doing when upgrading the track would be making sure the bridge clearances were adequate, and also the overhead and sideways clearances," Mr Baggott said.

Existing rail cars, some of which are almost 30 years old, are considered unsuitable for conversion, meaning new rolling stock would be required.

A December, 2004, Transport Department report obtained by The Advertiser in March ruled out expanding Adelaide's existing diesel rail service because it was considered unattractive to passengers and would not be cost-effective.

In April, TransAdelaide general manager Bill Watson said a full electric upgrade of the fleet would significantly reduce the number and rate of mechanical failures.

Mr Hamilton-Smith last night said any Government spending on rail infrastructure, with a view to electrification of the network, would be fully backed by the Liberal Party. But he demanded further details, including which sections of rail track would be electrified and whether the Outer Harbor line was still being considered for a tram extension.

Mr Hamilton-Smith said Adelaide's outdated train system was a "national joke".

"We are the only diesel train system left and if the Government is going to do something in this Budget then, great. It is just a shame it has taken them six Budgets to make a start," he said.

A spokeswoman for Mr Foley last night said: "The Government won't comment on details in the Budget until it is handed down on June 7."
 

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great news!! I didn't realise the trains were so old. What car configuration is used in Adelaide? 2 car sets or 3 car sets? I take it there is room on platforms for double trains at least?
 

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Don't worry there are still trains on Sydney's network that date from 1972! Though at least they are electric and have been refurbished over the years.

This is good news for Adelaide and does seem the logicial thing to do.
 

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great news!! I didn't realise the trains were so old. What car configuration is used in Adelaide? 2 car sets or 3 car sets? I take it there is room on platforms for double trains at least?
They can range from 1 set to 4 or maybe more

Don't worry there are still trains on Sydney's network that date from 1972! Though at least they are electric and have been refurbished over the years.

This is good news for Adelaide and does seem the logicial thing to do.
Yeah some of the older trains have just been refurbished
 

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^^They have standard guage tracks out of the workshops in Maryborough. It wouldn't surprise me if they did more than just narrow guage.
 

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Brilliant news for Adelaide. By upgrading the system you'll easily get higher passenger numbers and therefore future rail developments.

I hope they use this opportunity to get rid of the casino in central station and renovate the building, it would make an awesome central station if it wasn't for the pokie machines.
 

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What guage the tracks are would be least of the problems for new trains. Just about any train can run on any guage track (at least in Australia) and it's easy to substitute the appropriate bogies.

This is great news for Adelaide though. Hope they do it soon.
 

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1 car?! I am trying to imagine that with no luck. I am going to try and find some pics:)
Yes Bullswool 1 car trains! One of the most annoying things is waiting at a level crossing and then seeing only 1 car go past (almost empty as well).

This is great news for Adelaide, but I am a bit skeptical of the cost that has been bandied around. I would have thought it would be more costly than 250-500 million to convert since we would have to buy all new rolling stock. I really hope we end up with Perth style cars as they are a vast improvement over what we have atm.

Don't thing that the casino will move as there is speculation that it could possibly be sold so we will have to make do with central station the way it is.
 

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Yes Bullswool 1 car trains! One of the most annoying things is waiting at a level crossing and then seeing only 1 car go past (almost empty as well).

This is great news for Adelaide, but I am a bit skeptical of the cost that has been bandied around. I would have thought it would be more costly than 250-500 million to convert since we would have to buy all new rolling stock. I really hope we end up with Perth style cars as they are a vast improvement over what we have atm.

Don't thing that the casino will move as there is speculation that it could possibly be sold so we will have to make do with central station the way it is.
I'd say you're right, that the 300mill figure doesn't include the carriages.

But I'm also guessing that they had decided that they'd need to upgrade those either way (30 years is about the expected life of a rail carriage) and that given the relatively low cost of the actual work ($300m honestly is diddly squat these days for a government) it should be done.

There's actually not a whole lot wrong with the Adelaide network, aside from the fact that it completely misses the Eastern Suburbs of the city (which Sydney is just as guilty of), and the fact that everything terminates at one station. I don't know about frequencies, though, and suspect they should probably be raised if that's a possibility.
 

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Well I'm a little concerned the rail network will not end up being electrified at all - I suppose we'll have to wait for the budget.
 

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I think they will be, it was either going to be electrification or scraping (which is now not the case). Running diesel engines on a suburban network probably just isn't cost effective for the long term. Specially with the uncertainty of oil pricing.
 

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good news indeed.

Wonder if you will end up with the Brisbane/Perth new trains?
I think they'd be more likely to get new trains from Melbourne, seeing as Adelaide's network is very similiar to Melbourne's without the wires - for a start its broad guage.
 
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