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Good topic, but I think this thread would be more suited to the airports section of the "infrastructure and mobility" forums.
 

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Well,
The Bay Area has 3 major airports.
San Francisco International(SFO)
Oakland International(OAK)
San Jose International(SJC)

In the past months, commerical service has also begun at Charles Schultz-Sonoma County Airport in Santa Rosa(about 45 mins north of SF by car in no traffic) fyi, Charles Schultz was the creator of Charlie Brown and Peanuts. Anyway, that airport now has nonstop service to Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Seattle and Portland. Its as cute as a button LOL
 

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This forum was chosen because it is concentrated on the U.S.
I understand your thinking. I just figured that this thread might end up being moved to the "airports" forum, so I wanted to alert you.

Anyway.... The St Louis Metro area has two "major" airports. By "major", it means they are capable of handling commercial jets, not that they are necessarily "bustling hubs" of air travel.
Lambert St Louis International is the principal airport. It has two terminals and about 15 million passengers per year. It recently completed phase 1 of a $2.6 billion expansion.
Mid-America is the newer "reliever" airport, located on the Illinois side of the area. There are few flights in and out of this commercial airport currently, so there are seldom (if ever) long check-in lines. But there are also no amenities in the terminal, such as restaurants, car rentals, or news stands. There's just not the foot traffic to support these things-- yet.
Mid-America is the next-door neighbor to Scott Air Force Base, and the two facilities actually share runways.
Incidentally, Scott is directly linked by light rail to Lambert.
 

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Miami metro has 3.

Miami International Airport - 33,740,416 +3.7%
Ft. Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport - 22,681,903 +6.1%
Palm Beach International Airport - 6,967,277 +2.8%

That all equal to about 63 million. Both Miami and Ft. Lauderdale are experiencing the most growth, Palm Beach too but not to the level of the other two. MIA is going through billion dollar growth with new terminal and renovations, configurations and expantion of half the airport.
 

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Dallas-Ft. Worth has two commercial airports (with a third possible in the works in suburban McKinney, TX).

Dallas/Fort Worth International- 59,786,746 -0.7%
Dallas Love Field (Southwest)- 7,953,385+15.63%

All total, roughly 68,000,000 passengers pass though the area every year...take that south Florida!!:)
 

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MSP 2000 Passenger Traffic: 36,751,632 (13th largest in world)
MSP 2007 Passenger Traffic: 35,160,505 (28th largest in world)

MSP 2005 Traffic Movements: 541,093 (8th in world)
MSP 2007 Traffic Movements: 450,337 (17th in world)

Most passenger traffic during that time period was 2005: 37,604,373. Obviously, several other airports have crept up on the world rank of MSP as that has decreased. However, in that time period MSP has one runway go under construction for repairs so it was shut down for a time period, and Northwest experienced bankruptcy and emergence from bankruptcy featuring reduced flying.

MSP consists of the Lindbergh Terminal as well as the Hubert Humphrey Terminal.




From my knowledge, the following airlines serve these terminals:

Lindbergh Terminal:
Northwest Airlines
Northwest Airlink (Mesaba, Pinnacle, and Compass)
Air Canada
Air Canada Jazz
American Airlines
American Connection
Continental Airlines
Continental Express
Frontier Airlines
United Airlines
United Express
US Airways
US Airways Express

Humphrey Terminal:
AirTran Airways
Alaska Airways
Icelandair
Midwest Airlines
Midwest Connect
Sun Country Airlines
Omni Air International
Ryan International Airlines
Xtra Airways

MSP has an expansion effort called MSP 2020 which is basically the goal of bringing the airport's capacity to around 55 million passengers. It involves expanding both the Lindbergh and Humphrey terminals. I am assuming the capacity could increase if more gates are available because airlines such as JetBlue and Southwest have had interest in entering MSP but Northwest has prevented them from entering.

http://mspairport.com/msp/docs/Expansion/2020/2020_Vision_Facilities.pdf
 

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We handle around 10 million passengers a year at New Orleans International. But, it isn't a hub...every person that flies here gets off and everybody that gets on a plane is leaving, making New Orleans International the busiest non-hub airport in the US. I have to admit that it is a pleasant experience flying into and out of New Orleans.
 

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Here are some pics and info for Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport.



The airport has 4 concourses A, B, C, and D.





Airport Layout.



Stats...

2000 Flight Operations...121,970
2007 Flight Operations...85,885

2000 Passengers...9,874,257
2007 Passengers...7,525,533

To note...2007 numbers were 21% higher than 2006 as the airport recovers from Katrina. This trend continues this year.

Here are the year to date stats from March 2008 compared to March 2007

2007 Passengers and Flights...1,810,046 and 18,969
2008 Passengers and Flights...2,088,952 and 21,411
 

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Indianapolis is in the process of building a brand new $1.2 billion facility and will open in October of this year. This will be the first new airport built in the US since 9/11 and will replace the current facility that is 60+ years old. I believe that IND does somewhere between 8.5M - 10M passengers per year. Not huge, but not small.
http://www.newindianapolisairport.com/

This first shot shows the new airport being constructed in the center with the existing at the top of the photo.







NEW MIDFIELD TERMINAL
The New Indianapolis Airport will feature a modern terminal built in the midfield area of the present airport, between the two main runways. The heart of the terminal building will be a civic plaza, a central gathering point representing the circular shape of the city's central public space, Monument Circle. In addition to serving the necessary security and concessions functions, the plaza will incorporate artwork, provide public event space and enable visitors to sample the character of Indianapolis and the region.

The terminal roof will be shaped to create a symbolic threshold to the city and state, emanating from the civic plaza. The form is generated by joining the sheltering, centralized shape of an arch with the rise and fall of the building from check-in to departure. The arched roof will shelter the glass walls from the sun and allow sunlight through the skylights. The arching will promote natural cooling, by harnessing the airflow over its surfaces and the roof surface will reflect energy, limit heat gain and channel water for collection. Encompassing high glass walls, the building rises over the plaza to reveal a view of the aircraft apron and the city skyline.

The midfield terminal site is on greenfield land which has been reserved for the airport's expansion since 1975. The plot is nearly a mile wide and over two miles in length.

Landside development will provide roadway access, utilities distribution, vehicle parking, support facilities and commercial development areas for the terminal area complex.

The airside development of the new airport will provide the aircraft parking, access to the runways and aviation support facilities. The midfield layout will facilitate the efficient movement of aircraft. Connector taxiways will align with existing exit taxiways to provide the shortest and most direct route to aircraft gates, thereby reducing taxiing time.

When completed, the new Terminal will have 96 passenger check-in counters, with room to expand these further when required.
 

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Mid-America is the newer "reliever" airport, located on the Illinois side of the area. There are few flights in and out of this commercial airport currently, so there are seldom (if ever) long check-in lines. But there are also no amenities in the terminal, such as restaurants, car rentals, or news stands. There's just not the foot traffic to support these things-- yet.
My roomate, who's from St. Louis, told me that Mid-America is pretty much a joke and was just an example of the Illinois side being hissy. Any truth to that?

Anyways, Kansas City International Airport, codenamed MCI. Replaced the Downtown Airport, which is now for business jets and houses a Lockheed Constellation Museum.

What is unique about it is that each gate, sometimes group of gates, has its own security sytem, which cuts down on lines. Issues have risen from people about bathrooms being outside the zone and them having to reenter security. Quite recently, the airport went through a huge overhaul. Besides updating ther decor, widening the concourses, and streamlining the systems, the bathroom issue was rectified with bathrooms installed in the gates. Considered by many to be one of the most convenient airports, unless you have a connecting flight with a different airline that is in another terminal.
There are now talks about making a new airport now.

MCI




KC Downtown Airport

 

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nice I love airports each is like a different personality I do not prefer one over the other I think every airport has it charm that is great !!
I will try to post airport of orlando if I can I also love the casablanca international airport it went from a tiny box in 1970 to a major international airport today
 

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I pay extra money to avoid the Atlanta airport. It is a nightmare of an experience. Flights are delayed, there is confusion, and it is not built properly to be the major hub that it is. I love Atlanta, but, the airport in Atlanta is the worst airport in the US, IMO. It's nothing short of just horrible.
 

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That's just an opinion...I agree with the many people that have proclaimed Hartsfield to be a logical and efficient layout. It's very simple in its design...North and South Terminals connected by train to 6 concourses arranged in a row. I'm pretty sure that flight delays can be due to a number of issues, most of which are related to the particular airline. Maybe I just don't have the extra expendable income, but I would fly through the gates of hell to save some money.

You obviously had a bad experience flying to/through Atlanta...sorry about that, but I seriously doubt that the "worst airport in the U.S." could handle the largest number of passengers in the world.
 

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Never been though Atlanta, but most of the reviews I have heard have been negative. Probably due to the amount of traffic it deals with.

I know for sure that I loathe O'hare with a passion though; mainly if connecting from international to domestic. Stood in line for 3 hours to recheck my bags at just one spot (had to be in the international terminal; didn't let us check in at the domestic) and missed my original flight.
 

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IraGlacialis said:
"My roomate, who's from St. Louis, told me that Mid-America is pretty much a joke and was just an example of the Illinois side being hissy. Any truth to that?"


The two airports present an interesting story, if you will pardon the length:


Lambert International, which is geographically small and penned in on all sides by suburbs, was years ago a far busier airport than it is today. So it was decided that there was no choice but to expand. An ambitious $1.1 billion plan was drawn. Soon, a massive buy-out began of dozens of businesses and over 2,000 homes, displacing over 6,000 residents.

Meanwhile, the state of Illinois saw an opportunity and had its own plans. A second major airport was proposed in the 1980's as a reliever airport for Lambert. First, it was intended to be located in Monroe County, which is southeast of St Louis. Trouble is, there was much opposition in the county, which was (then) a mixture of farmland and a quiet towns. Enough land couldn't be assembled, and the plan was eventually dropped.

A second plan surfaced some time later- this time in St Clair County, 20 miles east of the city of St Louis. This would eventually become Mid-America Airport. The airport was dedicated in 1997 and officially "opened" in 1998-- but with no airlines and no business. Eventually, in 2000, PanAm began a few scheduled flights out of Mid-America.

But Missouri had no intention of letting Illinois' plans hinder its own, and Phase 1 of the Lambert expansion project began in 1998. Construction of a new runway was well underway in 2001 when Lambert was hit with two major blows: 9/11, and TWA filing for bankrupcy. It was proposed that runway construction be halted. At this point, most of the money had not yet been spent. But building the runway created jobs, and airport officials still hoped for future growth and decided to move forward.

Also in 2001, PanAm pulled out of Mid-America, again leaving the airport with no scheduled flights. The airport would sit idle for five years.

Lambert was dealt yet another blow in 2003, when American Airlines cut half its flights after dropping the airport as a hub. After the cut, the airport no longer experienced the congestion that prompted its expansion plans.

In late 2006, Mid-America finally obtained another airline: Allegiant Air. Currently, the airline flies from Mid-America to Las Vegas and Orlando only. There are many who feel that the reliever airport was "a failure from the start", opening at the time of Lambert's massive expansion project.

And back on the Missouri side, many say that Lambert's expansion is totally unnecessary in light of losing two major hubs. In 2006, USA Today reported "New $1 billion runway opens this week, but it's not needed anymore."
 

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I avoid ATL, DFW, and ORD at all costs. I have had delayed flights each time I've flown through these hubs. My last flight through ATL was with Airtran. I ended up having to rent a car and drive to New Orleans from Atlanta because I missed my connecting flight by 15 minutes. It was the last flight of the day to New Orleans, and I had to be at work the next morning. I've refused to fly through ATL since then. Of course...with the way prices are going up...I probably won't be able to afford a flight for my whole family anymore. :nuts:
 
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