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Another cheap airline plans to fly to Australia
Scott Rochfort
May 15, 2007


JETSTAR is about to face its first challenge on the long-haul "low-cost" airline market between Asia and Australia, after the Chinese budget carrier Viva Macau confirmed plans to fly to Sydney by late July.

The airline, which is based in Macau, plans to launch three weekly services to Sydney once it takes delivery of its third Boeing 767 next month.

"The dates are not confirmed yet but definitely July," a Viva Macau spokeswoman told the Herald.

Based on the ticket prices Viva already offers, it is expected the airline could easily undercut the fares offered by Jetstar into Asia.

On its website yesterday Viva was offering return flights from Macau to Jakarta for as low as $138 (including taxes) and the Maldives for $370. Last year the airline's chief executive, Andrew Pyne, predicted Viva would undercut existing fares on the Sydney to Hong Kong route by at least 20 per cent.

Viva's chief operating officer, Con Korfiatis, is understood to have visited Sydney last week to make the final arrangements for the airline's arrival.

Mr Korfiatis is no stranger to Jetstar. The former Qantas executive was the first acting chief executive in the struggling 44.5 per cent Qantas-owned Singapore budget carrier Jetstar Asia.

Viva also plans to launch services to Seoul and Osaka within the next two months, before launching services into Europe by the end of the year. The airline, which commenced services last December, plans to expand its fleet to five 767s by the end of the year. Like Jetstar International, it has two classes. Economy passengers have to pay for meals.

Aside from banking on the growing demand for travel to the booming gambling mecca of Macau, Viva also plans to exploit the oversupply of hotel rooms in the former Portuguese enclave.

The airline is looking to offer Australian passengers en route to Europe a cheap hotel room in transit. It is rumoured Viva is looking at European destinations such as Moscow and Milan.

Viva's planned arrival comes after AirAsia announced plans to fly to Australia with its new long-haul budget carrier within the next year. But this could be delayed due to a lack of available aircraft.

The Hong Kong long-haul low-cost carrier Oasis is yet to indicate whether it plans to fly to Australia. The airline has so far singled out North America and Europe, but with plans to expand its fleet to 25 Boeing 747s by 2010 it could eventually include Australia in its growth plans.

■ The Australian Federation of Airline Pilots warned Jetstar would face pilot shortages if it pursued its plans to put all of its new pilots on Australian Workplace Agreements.

"It's not as if there's a ready supply of pilots sitting around," said AFAP's head of industrial relations Lawrie Cox.

"If anything this will be a backward step for the company," he said.

With Virgin Blue already having to cancel some flights due to pilot shortages, Jetstar plans to hire 200 pilots to aid its expansion over the next year.


I know this has already been posted but i think it deserves a thread of its own.
 

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A very popular airline, many people here in HK either take the ferry or chopper over to Macau and fly out with them to destinations around Asia; a much cheaper option than flying out of Chep Lok.
 

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Far out!!!! Surely there isn't the demand for these guys, Tiger, that other airliner from Asia that wanted to get into the market, Virgin Blue, Jetstar and Qantas!!!!

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^^ Viva Micau is not planning to fly domestic flights.. they are only flying international flights out of Aust.
 

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Far out!!!! Surely there isn't the demand for these guys, Tiger, that other airliner from Asia that wanted to get into the market, Virgin Blue, Jetstar and Qantas!!!!

That's 6!!!
The "other airline" is Air Asia. Again, Air Asia will only fly international into and out of Australia. Can't really see Viva Macau lasting that long here but you never know!
 

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The "other airline" is Air Asia. Again, Air Asia will only fly international into and out of Australia. Can't really see Viva Macau lasting that long here but you never know!
I don't know, tie in with all the gambling venues and hotels that are getting built there it could be a popular destination in a few years time.
 

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I would have thought that if you have enough money that you're willing to waste it in a luxury casino in another country (as opposed to the local RSL), then a budget airline would not be your first choice to get there. Considering Crown in Melbourne ferries the foreigners in on a Gulfstream. Of course I could be wrong. Is there anything else to do in Macau besides gambling?
 

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I would have thought that if you have enough money that you're willing to waste it in a luxury casino in another country (as opposed to the local RSL), then a budget airline would not be your first choice to get there. Considering Crown in Melbourne ferries the foreigners in on a Gulfstream. Of course I could be wrong. Is there anything else to do in Macau besides gambling?
Well why do people in the US travel to Los Vegas even though there are closer casinos to most cities and states?
 

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yer, get a ferry to Honkers ;)
well for a start you can go sight seeing like you do in every other country ,experience the portugese /chinese culture.Also the atmosphere inside the casinos are pretty crazy and busy filled with people cheering and shouting like they do in the movies literally.The atmosphere in the Australian casinos is nothing compared to the ones in macau.In Australia the typical atmosphere is to smile a little if you win and walk off, the crowds that gather around tables are so boring (people who have a look and just wander off if you win).Crowds in macau get you going and to join in the fun.
 

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Viva Macau lures flyers with cheap airfares


Scott Rochfort
June 21, 2007 - 12:41PM

Viva Macau has marked its entry as the first Asian low-cost airline to fly to Sydney by offering three day flight and hotel packages in the Chinese territory for $768.

The airline started selling tickets on its website yesterday afternoon and announced this morning its launch of three weekly flights to Macau from August 16.

"We see ourselves as the first airline to really market Macau to the world," said Viva chief executive Con Korfiatis.

The two-class Viva is also offering return fares from $588 (including taxes) and "Super Star Class" business fares for $2370 return.

"Our mission is to put Macau on the map," said the former Qantas and Jetstar Asia executive.

Macau is expected to attract 26 million visitors this year, mainly from mainland China. The number of hotel rooms in the 27 square kilometre territory is expected to grow from 14,000 to 70,000 within the next five years.

Viva's growth plans hinge around the ongoing growth as Macau not only a gambling centre. Aside from banking on capturing some of the traffic between Sydney and Hong Kong, the airline hopes to tap into the rapidly growing Chinese tourist market into Australia. The Pearl River basin that surrounds Macau has a population of around 90 million people.

Viva is not the first budget Asian carrier to fly to Australia. The Singapore Airlines part-owned Tiger already operates flights from Darwin and Perth to Singapore.

The next Asian budget airline set to fly to Australia is Malaysia's AirAsiaX, which is reported to be close to choosing Melbourne's Avalon Airport as its first Australian destination. The airline plans to fit 396 passengers in its Airbus 330-300 aircraft. Qantas by comparison fits 307 passengers on its A330-300s.

AirAsia has also expressed an interest in flying from its Kuala Lumpur homebase to Newcastle airport instead of Sydney.

Jetstar said it was not fazed by Viva's entry, noting it offered $398 return fares to Phuket and $338 to Bali for its launch last year.

"It just underscores that we have open skies in Australia," said Jetstar spokesman Simon Westaway.
 

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Wow thats actually quite cheap, seems to be much cheaper than flying to Hong Kong return on most airlines.
 

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I can't wait for Air Asia to arrive. It's the only known airline amongst backpackers around SE Asia. It will see more of them coming over to Australia as there will now be a KNOWN cheap alternative.
 

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They are poised to start 1 day before Jetstar starts SYD-KUL route, which is on the 8th of September 2007. We're still waiting for the announcement of the KUL outbound destinationation. Would it be Adelaide Airport, Avalon Airport in Melbourne, or Newcastle Airport? your bet?
 

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They are poised to start 1 day before Jetstar starts SYD-KUL route, which is on the 8th of September 2007. We're still waiting for the announcement of the KUL outbound destinationation. Would it be Adelaide Airport, Avalon Airport in Melbourne, or Newcastle Airport? your bet?
Some people are starting to think it will be MEL now rather than AVV.
 
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