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Hi

My name is Paul and I'm from Bavaria in Germany.

I have some questions about Valledupar and especially the Sierra Nevada.
I hope someone speak or at least understand english to help me.

Best would be an Valledupar-Resident or at least someone who understand and can answer in spanish.

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Paul
 

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Hi Paul

i´m from valledupar and i don´t speak english, but i understand a little bit. so, tell me what do you want to know about the city i think i can help you a lot.
 

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hi paul.

I from cartagena.

written in Spanish using a translator Internet. is very easy :lol:

aqui coloco la traduccion de tu post

Cualquiera de Valledupar aquí que habla Inglés?

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Hola

Mi nombre es Pablo y soy de Baviera en Alemania.

Tengo algunas preguntas sobre el Valledupar y, especialmente, la Sierra Nevada.
Espero que alguien hable o por lo menos entienda Inglés para que me ayude.

Mejor sería una residente en Valledupar o al menos alguien que me comprenda y puede responder en español.

Gracias,
Paul
 

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Ok thanks, I will try:

I'm dreaming for many years now to vist the sierra marta de santa marta. This mountains are so unique and my dream is to get in there and do some trekking. But I'm not sure how realistic ist that.

There seems something like "guided tours" to Nabusimake/San Sebastian from Valledupar with Toyota- Jeeps. And then you can walk a little bit in town and drive back.

But I saw on an very old map there should be a second road from valledupar to an village "Donachui" or maybe "Sogrome". Does this road or this villages still exist?
Is it possible to hire an driver with jeep in Valledupar and go in this Indian village?

And from this both "dead ends" of the road, is it possible to hike into the high sierra? What about military, guerillia or indians in this area?

And is there something like "tourist flights" from Valledupar Airport to see this area from the air?

Is it possible to buy an map of these area? I tried in Germany, but I wasn't succesful?

Does anybody know an helpful guide in Valledupar who could help me?

Gracias, Pablo
 

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I'm not from Valledupar, but I think there's a greater tourist infrastructure regarding the Sierra Nevada in Santa Marta, rather than Valledupar.

Regarding the security situation, albeit it has become safer, it is not recommended to visit the Sierra unless within an experienced tour operator (such as the ones in Santa Marta, never heard about tours from Valledupar). The indigenous populations in the sierra, tend to be very reserved and not to keen to recieve tourists on their villages.
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Pitz pregunta si

Parece que hay algo como tures guiados hasta Nbusimake desde Valledupar con jeeps o toyotas, que uno se pueda quedar un rato en el pueblo y después bajarse otra vez hasta el valle.

En un mapa vio que hay otra vía que va hasta Donachui o Sogrome, ¿estas vías todavía existen? Es posible contratar un conductor para que lo suba a uno hasta ahí

Que si hay vuelos turisticos desde el aeropuerto para ver la sierra desde el aire

y que si hay mapas o guias que pueda conseguir. Asi como un contacto turístico en Valledupar
 

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^^ i agree, if you want to visit the sierra its better from Sta Marta, there its a grate touristic infrastructure in there, professional tourist guides can take you to indian villages also.

when it comes to the safety isues, well the most part of the mountain its save, specialy the touristic areas, many foreign people visit it every year.
 

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ok, just for better understanding:

My interest is not so much to visit the indians, but to trek into the high sierra. Up to where the snow begins, that's about 5000 metres.
And this is only possible from the south. From the north it's deep djungle, it's not possible to get very high.

The only roads to start this hike from are the "road" to Nabusimake or to a Village called "Donachui" or maybe "Sogrome".

I don't even know if this road even still exists an if yes is it possible to rent a driver to go into these villages and start from there the hiking.

If possible, I would do everything alone, I don't need an organised tour.
But main problem I guess is getting into these villages and go further into the sierra.

Just to got an idea what I want to see:







so beautiful!
 

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what's up paul, I don't know if you have been in colombia before, but i think the best way to go to the monunt of santa marta is Precisely for santa marta city, there you can finad any kind of information due to the fact that santa marta is a tourist place and is just a couple hour from there ,don't hesitate go there otherwise probabily you will be in trouble in valledeupar.
 

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Well then, I don't have any information regarding climbing up to the snow peaks. I haven't heard either of anyone who knows how to climb. What I do know is that is highly unrecommended to climb the sierra by yourself.
 

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lo que pasa es que desde santa marta llegar a los picos es mas dificil que por la ruta de valledupar. para ir por la ruta de valledupar tomas un carro que te lleva en 40 minutos en carretera pavimentada a PUEBLO BELLO allí salen todos los dias unos carros estilo jeep a Nabusimake el recorrido dura otros 40 minutos, el valor del trayecto es muy barato tanto de Valledupar a Pueblo Bello como de este a Nabusimake, creo que no pasan 40 dolares ida y regreso. de alli se contacta a nativos que te llevan por la ruta de duriameina las lagunas y mamankana. este utlimo trayecto es mas costoso, y no es en vehiculo creo q ellos llevan mula y debes de llevar agua y comida. para la estadia en nabusimake puedes acampar lo mismo que en duriameina.
 

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ah se me olvidava la ruta a donachui es desde Valledupar llegas a atanques(un pueblo) y de ahi a donachui. pero creo que por la otra ruta es mas cerca ademas de ser mas segura.
 

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um nach Pueblo Bello zu fahren muss du ein auto nehmen der dir 40 minuten lang fahrt, in Pueblo Bello fahren jeden tag autos jeep nach habusimake es dauert auch 40 minuten und es kostet von valledupar nach pueblo bello und von pueblo bello nach nabusimake 40 dollars hin und zurück dort muss du mit doe leute von den dorf sprechen damit sie dir nach duriamenta las lagunas y mamankana. Diese letzte strecke ist teurer und es ist nicht mot auto sondern mit ein essen und du muss wasser und essen mitnehmen. fur das aufenhalt in nabusimake oder in duriamenta kannst du zelten
 

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um nach Pueblo Bello zu fahren muss du ein auto nehmen der dir 40 minuten lang fahrt, in Pueblo Bello fahren jeden tag autos jeep nach habusimake es dauert auch 40 minuten und es kostet von valledupar nach pueblo bello und von pueblo bello nach nabusimake 40 dollars hin und zurück dort muss du mit doe leute von den dorf sprechen damit sie dir nach duriamenta las lagunas y mamankana. Diese letzte strecke ist teurer und es ist nicht mot auto sondern mit ein essen und du muss wasser und essen mitnehmen. fur das aufenhalt in nabusimake oder in duriamenta kannst du zelten
Thanks juanqui2/Kharl for this information!
Helps me a lot.
Did you do this by yourself?


And can you say something about the situation in the sierra/ to the indians: is ist becoming more open for trekkers or is it becoming harder to get into it?

You (or everyone else can write in espanol, i will understand.
 

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^^

jeje no se esfuercen tanto ke el entiende español. (o si no buska un traductor :lol:)
 
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