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Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
For all citizen of Nothern Hemisphere countries and other continents - you may regard Australia is such a long way place to visit...

Yet - for hip urban lovers - Australia can offer its finest cities to visitors - Melbourne and Sydney - both can be visited by only 1hr flight between the two - yes they are so close geographically - yet so different - each offer own distinguished charms and attractions...

They are my favourite cities in Aus

You may heard this little rivalry of two cities - its century old yet for all of you - you can enjoy the best of urban Australia can offer

I will post some photos gradually over the time ... in the meantime just enjoy!

Using an American link for description for travel info (to keep the neutral opinion) - check the source:

Notes - photos are from various sources

Starting with Melbourne

A vibrant cosmopolitan city, located on the magnificent Port Phillip Bay, Melbourne is the state capital and cultural heart of Victoria. The locals' claim that it is 'the best city in the world to live in' may rankle their rivals in Sydney but few would dispute that it is indeed a fascinating place to visit. In fact, the traditional rivalry between Melbourne and Sydney, which covers every sphere of life from business to sport and culture, has resulted in a proud, dynamic city that strives to be the best in all things.

The city is situated on either side of the Yarra River and the area was home to Aborigines for thousands of years. The waterway attracted British settlers, who founded the Port Phillip Settlement of the Colony of New South Wales in 1835. In 1851, a separate colony was carved out of New South Wales and named Victoria, after Queen Victoria, and Melbourne was named after the British Prime Minister, Lord Melbourne. That same year gold was discovered near Ballarat and Bendigo, to the west of Melbourne, and the ensuing gold rush turned the city into a powerful financial centre, as well as the first political capital, until Canberra was established in 1927.

Numerous gardens and parks give a pleasant, open feel to the city, whose skyline mixes elegant spires with dazzling modern skyscrapers, which dwarf the elegant Victorian-era buildings that are dotted along leafy streets. However, the city is defined more by its diverse population than by its architecture. Immigration at the end of World War II transformed Melbourne into a thriving cultural melting pot, totalling over three million people, with sizeable Italian, Greek and Chinese communities each carving out their own quarter. In fact, large-scale immigration has made Melbourne home to the largest Greek community outside Greece and the influx of Vietnamese and Lebanese has contributed to Melbourne's claim to be the cultural capital of Australia. The introduction of European and Asian communities has resulted in an eclectic and energetic blend of theatre, music, art and literature. The international population has also brought a wealth of different cuisine, served up in a wide range of restaurants, from the outdoor cafés along the Crown Promenade overlooking the Yarra River, to the pizzerias in Carlton, the Chinese banquet halls in Chinatown and the fine seafood restaurants in trendy St Kilda Beach, just a half-hour tram ride from the city centre.

One topic that is guaranteed to be discussed over dinner is the weather. The city has four distinct seasons and usually enjoys a pleasant, temperate climate. However, winters can get chilly and summers usually see some swelteringly hot days. Sometimes, all four seasons occur in one day. The ever-optimistic locals joke that if one does not like the weather, one just has to wait 10 minutes and it will change.

and Sydney !

Celebrated as the 'Queen of the Pacific Rim', vast, vibrant Sydney is home to one of the world's most beautiful harbours, with the imposing Opera House as the jewel in its crown.

The State capital of New South Wales, Sydney is a thriving centre for both business and the arts. The city has all the cosmopolitan amenities – top shopping, excellent restaurants and buzzing nightlife. Carved between the mountains and the sea, it also offers the ultimate in the great outdoors. The Pacific Ocean swells onto golden beaches, while a seasonally shifting palette of colours unfolds further inland over the Blue Mountains. In addition to the harbour, famously adorned with sailing boats that mirror the distinctive curves of the Opera House, there are numerous inland waterways and national parks.

From its sordid beginnings as a British penal colony in 1788, Sydney rapidly flourished, establishing booming trade links and witnessing large-scale development throughout the 19th and 20th centuries. The Sydney Opera House (a feat of avant-garde architectural vision) epitomises the city's desire to lead the New World in the 21st century. Sydney's architecture is a stunning melange, with little Victorian structures nestling below towering concrete, steel and glass skyscrapers.

All the exuberance and plate-glass sophistication nonetheless fail to compensate for a certain competitive edginess in the city's psyche. After the Australian Federation was created in 1901, the traditional bickering between Sydney and its arch rival, Melbourne, was settled in 1908, by making Canberra the new national capital. However, until 1927, when the city of Canberra was completed, Melbourne remained the seat of national government. Nevertheless, Sydneysiders insist that their city remains the 'true' capital of Australia and indeed, with a triumphant hosting of the 2000 Olympic Games, the world might even agree with this. But the rivalry with Melbourne persists – a rivalry based more on style than on stature for, while Sydney is decidedly Anglo in its ethnic orientation, Melbourne is more continental, with a much more tangibly imported culture. To Melbourne, Sydney will always be hedonistic and shallow, just as to Sydney, Melbourne will always be grey and intellectual.

Australia's white history has eclipsed its indigenous inheritance and, although Sydney has the highest Aboriginal population of any Australian city, a stroll around the city's streets offers little evidence that it has anything other than a white (and latterly, an Asian) heritage. While museums, galleries, theatre and dance troupes pay tribute to the archaeological and cultural legacy of indigenous culture, Aborigines in the city remain very much an invisible minority.

With the Olympics, Sydney came of age as one of the world's great cities. The games' smooth running has been attributed to the thousands of local volunteers, whose helpful, welcoming attitude revealed (much to Sydney's own surprise) that beneath its somewhat vain and self-seeking surface there still exists a bedrock of traditional Australian virtues. But the Games did more than affect the city's mindset: they transformed its physical appearance. Streets and public areas were remodelled, long-neglected eyesores were removed and new street furniture erected, resulting in a city centre that is more pleasant and easier to navigate than ever before. Combine that with semitropical summers and mild winters and the result is an excellent city to visit at any time of the year.


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fantastic pics...great overview :cheers:

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Hard to pick considering I've never been to either, but Melbourne seems where I'd feel most comfortable.

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Discussion Starter · #7 · (Edited)
^^ Sydney is bigger in terms of population of course...

just factual stats from Wiki

• 4,297,100 - population - Metro
Established: January 26, 1788
Area: 12,144.6 km²

Sydney (pronounced /ˈsɪd.niː/) is the most populous city in Australia, with a metropolitan area population of over 4,200,000 people, and 151,920 in the City of Sydney.[1] Sydney is the state capital of New South Wales, and is the site of the first European colony in Australia, established in 1788 at Sydney Cove by Arthur Phillip, leader of the First Fleet from Britain.[2] A resident of the city is referred to as a Sydneysider.


3,850,000 (est.) population - Metro
Established: 30 August 1835
Area: 7,694 km²

Melbourne (pronounced /ˈmel.bən/) is the second most populous city in Australia, with a metropolitan area population of approximately 3.7 million (2006 estimate). [1] Located around Port Phillip Bay in the country's south-east, Melbourne is the state capital of Victoria.

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Melbourne - Third largest Greek city in the world after Athens and Thessaloniki!
I think that is amazing. ;)

Melbourne is by far my favourite city in the world...Its just so stylish. Just looking at those picture, its a fashion savvy city and certainly my home away from home (I guess you could say I 'live' in Melbourne for atleast 2 months a year!)

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Discussion Starter · #9 · (Edited)
Sydney and its Natural beauty

Sydney is such a great outdoor city.....its landscape & location is simply breathtaking. Its citizens & visitors alike would easily be mesmerised by its natural beauty - with endless bays and azure clear waters are easily found around the city.

Holiday Hub link describes Sydney as :

Dubbed as the "Harbor City", Sydney is one of the highly acclaimed and much appreciated tourist destinations in Australia. Tourist attractions in Sydney are countless; from spectacular natural beauty to splendid landmarks and monuments the city has it all to make your holiday memorable.

Sydney is famous for its natural wonders. It is home to some of the spectacular beaches in the country. Beaches like the Cronolla Beach, the Bondi Beach, Balmoral Beach and the Coogee Beach will offer you heart warming glimpses of the sunrise and the sunset.

Besides this, the beaches are also home to some of the hair-raising adventure sports that include scuba diving, surfing, and sailing, cruising, boating, windsurfing, and diving. The landscape of the city is diverse and there are mountain ranges near the city. Blue Mountains are famous for its natural beauty as well as breathtaking sceneries

my photos from last holiday

Crusing around in a ferry through Sydney's fabulous harbour

Around its famous Bondi Beach

Great waterfront wharf - Woolloomoolloo

Majestic Opera House, The Rocks and Circular Quay (Tony P photos)

Considered the Australia's Gay mecca and one of world's favourite gay destinations- Sydney boasts internationally known Mardi Gras parade and party

Sydney is located on Australia's south-east coast. The city is built around Port Jackson, which includes Sydney Harbour, leading to the city's nickname, "the Harbour City". It is Australia's largest financial centre and the economic capital, home to many national headquarters of corporations, including the Australian Stock Exchange. Sydney's leading economic sectors include property and business services, retail, manufacturing, tourism and health and community services.

Sydney is a major international tourist destination, often referred to as the international gateway of Australia, and is notable for its beaches and twin landmarks: the Sydney Opera House and the Harbour Bridge. The metropolitan area is surrounded by national parks, and contains many bays, rivers and inlets. It has been recognised as a global city by the Loughborough University group. The city has played host to numerous international sporting events, including the 1938 British Empire Games, 2000 Summer Olympics and the 2003 Rugby World Cup. In 2008, Sydney will also host the 23rd Roman Catholic World Youth Day.

Sydney is one of the most multicultural cities in the world which reflects its role as a major destination for immigrants to Australia. According to the Mercer cost of living survey, Sydney is Australia’s most expensive city, and the 19th most expensive in the world

Bird views


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Discussion Starter · #11 · (Edited)
Melbourne and its laneways and cultural precinct

In contrast to the Sydney outdoor and bright azure waters - Melbourne charms lie to different spectrum and style

Check these links

Behind the sensible, ordered grid of city blocks is a world just waiting to be explored. Detour from the main trails and discover Melbourne's intimate and enchanting web of lanes, alleys, little streets and arcades. Each has its own story to tell and each is not shy about telling it. Some lanes have been reborn and hum with quirky city life. Others are still waiting to be discovered

Melbourne’s historic network of laneways and arcades boasts the unique, the exotic and the quirky. Discover an eclectic and delightful mix of small boutiques selling everything from Melbourne designed fashion to Russian dolls and lollipops.

Find and explore the Block, Cathedral and Royal arcades, Degraves and Crossley streets, Presgrove and Centre places and more.

Some of the best and brightest of Melbourne and international fashion can be found hidden away in the laneways and arcades.
Cathedral Arcade is home to the Japanese-inspired Genki, the unique and cool Alice Euphemia and the groovy Route 66.

Melbourne’s coffee culture surrounds you in the laneways and arcades with street cafés and funky coffee shops around every other corner. Take a break from shopping to linger over a latte and watch the world go by.

Degraves Street, Centre Place and Block Place are lined with small eateries, most with an alfresco dining option, offering everything from coffee and paninis to sushi, soup and pasta.

The most successful product of Melbourne's laneway renaissance is the boom in bars. Single, unassuming doorways, often with just a discreet sign, open into sumptuous and often spacious interiors. Some are designer cool, while others are miscellaneous mixes of carefully chosen, jumble-sale furnishings. These funky watering holes can be found throughout Melbourne's lanes including Meyers Place, Bennetts Lane, Bullens Lane, Sniders Lane and Market Lane.

images are from Tony P and others

(You never know what is inside a tiny door in laneways - Baroq House bar)

Hidden cafes at GPO

Stencil artworks in one of the laneways

Melbourne various Theaters and Art venues

Melbourne is a major centre of commerce, industry and cultural activity. The city is often referred to as Australia's "sporting and cultural capital" [2] and it is home to many of the nation's most significant cultural and sporting events and institutions. Melbourne is notable for its mix of Victorian and contemporary architecture, its extensive tram network and Victorian parks and gardens, and its diverse, multicultural society. It was the host city of the 1956 Summer Olympics and the 2006 Commonwealth Games.

Melbourne was founded by free settlers in 1835, 47 years after the first European settlement of Australia, as a small pastoral settlement situated around the Yarra River. [3] Transformed rapidly into a major metropolis by the Victorian gold rush in the 1850s, "Marvellous Melbourne" became Australia's largest and most important city by 1865,[4] but was overtaken by Sydney as the largest city in Australia during the early 20th century.

Melbourne served as the capital city of Australia from the time of the new nation's Federation in 1901, until Federal Parliament moved to the new, purpose-built capital, Canberra, in 1927.

Melbourne Cricket Ground (or the G)- considered as the mecca of Australian Sport ground

Australian Formula 1 Grand Prix

Australian Open - Grand Slams for Asia Pacific

Spring Racing Carnival


Mi I.Ali - Loca Stoopa
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Have lived in both cities... Personally, I enjoy Sydney's vibrancy and love Melbourne's elegance... :eek:kay::eek:kay::eek:kay:

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City Brands Survey by Anholt


Sydney's on Top of the World

Sydney ranks first, Melbourne debuts in top 10 in latest Anholt City Brands Index

Sydney, January 25th, 2007 – Sydney has been officially named the best city brand in the world, knocking 2005 title holder London to second place in the 2006 edition of the annual Anholt City Brands Index (CBI). Making its CBI debut, Melbourne scored a comfortable place in the top ten, ranking in 8th place. The CBI polled 15,255 people in 20 countries across the globe on issues including the city’s people, climate, lifestyle, affordability, transport and its presence on the world stage.

The number of cities included in the survey doubled from last year, from 30 to 60, with Melbourne scoring the highest rank out of all the new entrants. Created by government advisor Simon Anholt and powered by global market intelligence solutions provider GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.), the CBI measures the power and impact of a city’s brand and its overall international image, taking into account the perceived potential and opportunities it presents for people abroad.

Climbing two places from last year, Sydney is followed by London, then Paris in third place. Sydney’s improvement indicates the attractive picture the city is painting for itself internationally, and its strong presence on the global radar.

The image and successes of iconic Australians also contribute to the overall perception of Australia, with the tragic death of Steve Irwin bringing a surge of emotion for the country, and reinforcing the ‘Aussie’ ideals he presented to the world.

CBI report author Simon Anholt says Australians should be proud of the result, with Sydney-siders and Melbournians successfully creating a strong and positive brand for their cities.

“Every city has a brand that they rely on to influence tourism, business and their international presence. Sydney has come up as having the world’s best brand, and new-comer Melbourne has done exceptionally well beating other recent additions to the poll that include Montréal, Copenhagen and Boston.

“Australia is in a truly unique position – able to distinguish itself from cities such as London, Rome and Paris, which are often identified by historic landmarks and politics.

“Australia is young, fresh, and often the subject of intrigue being so far away from the rest of the world. It’s the place people fantasise about as having sun drenched beaches, friendly people, and great lifestyle – and all with an affordable price tag.”

Austrade's chief economist, Tim Harcourt, says that Australian businesses should take advantage of the CBI findings to generate interest from abroad.

"The poll results show that it is not just Australia Day down under, but seemingly all over the world, as Australia resonates as a brand that gets stronger in global business by the day," he says.

"CBI findings should serve as further encouragement for Australian businesses that are growing globally.

“It shows that Australia is thought of not just as a great place to visit, but also as a destination for investment and business thanks to the strong brands Sydney and Melbourne have created.

"Sydney is the place to be in the eyes of the world. It is only a matter of time before we see 'Sydney - Melbourne - London - Paris - Rome' under the logos of the world's most recognised brands.”

How we rated: The breakdown

The Results

The Presence
Familiarity/perceived standing 11th out of 60 36th out of 60
The Place
Beauty/climate 1st out of 60
6th out of 60

The Potential
Economic/educational opportunities
3rd out of 60
10th out of 60

The Pulse
Urban lifestyle
5th out of 60
16th out of 60

The People
Acceptance in the community
1st out of 60
3rd out of 60

The Pre-requisites
Accommodation/public amenities such as schools, hospitals, transport 1st out of 60 2nd out of 60

The Top 20

Rank City
1 Sydney
2 London
3 Paris
4 Rome
5 New York
6 Washington DC
7 San Fransisco
8 Melbourne
9 Barcelona
10 Geneva
Rank City
11 Amsterdam
12 Madrid
13 Montreal
14 Toronto
15 Los Angeles
16 Vancouver
17 Berlin
18 Brussels
19 Milan
20 Copenhagen

To download a copy of the 2006 CBI executive summary report, please click here.

About the Anholt City Brands Index

The first edition of the Anholt City Brands Index (CBI) was launched in December 2005, ranking 30 cities around the globe. This 2006 CBI edition was expanded to accommodate 60 cities. The index was compiled from the results of a survey conducted online between November 14th and December 27th, 2006 on the GMIPoll platform among 15,255 men and women aged 18-64 from a wide range of income groups. A 200-1,000 representative sample based on age, gender, and where applicable, geographical region, race and ethnicity, was collected in each of 20 countries, including Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Denmark, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Poland, Russia, Spain, the United Kingdom and the United States. For further information about the Anholt City Brands Index methodology, please contact GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.) or visit

About Simon Anholt

Simon Anholt is recognized as the world’s leading authority on the branding of countries, regions and cities. He is a member of the UK Government’s Public Diplomacy Board, and works as an independent advisor to around 20 other national, regional and city governments on brand strategy and public diplomacy. He is founding editor of the quarterly journal, Place Branding and Public Diplomacy, and the author of Brand New Justice, Brand America and Competitive Identity – the New Brand Management for Nations, Cities and Regions. In addition to creating the Anholt City Brands Index, Anholt is the author of the Anholt Nation Brands Index ( and the Anholt State Brands Index ( For further information, please visit or email [email protected].

About GMI
GMI (Global Market Insite, Inc.) is the only provider of comprehensive integrated solutions for global market intelligence for both market research firms and corporate market research departments at Global 2,000 companies. Solutions include Net-MR, a suite of software tools to manage and automate research throughout the project lifecycle, desktop analysis tools, 24/7 service bureau capabilities, and one of the world’s largest, highly profiled, double opt-in managed panels, providing reach to six million consumers and spanning across 200+ countries. In addition, GMI offers high-value, real-time enterprise feedback solutions for customer, partner and employee programs. Founded in 1999 with world headquarters in Seattle, Wash., GMI has operations on six continents. In 2006, the company ranked #93 in Inc. Magazine's Inc. 500, #4 in Deloitte’s Technology Fast 50 for Washington State and #105 in Deloitte’s Technology Fast 500 for North America. More information is available at or by contacting us.

For further information and a copy of the 2006 CBI executive summary report, please contact:

Melissa Devine/Karen Masters
Upstream Australia
Tel: (02) 9377 1121/ (02) 9377 1120
Email: [email protected]/[email protected]

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Both great cities. I prefer Sydney though, it feels bigger and more exciting.
Have to say it's quite the opposite, or changing rather. Melbourne is growing faster than sydney and is catching up fast. The lifestyle is very relaxed and calm in Sydney with the harbour, and has beach culture that is very prominent. Melbourne has more of an urban lifestyle, shopping restaruants and is the city that leads the nation in style. Everyone around australia comes to Melbourne to club because the night life is the best in the country.
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