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Both Avianca-TACA and Copa to join Star Alliance​

Both Avianca-TACA and Panama's Copa Airlines have been accepted as new members of Star Alliance, giving the group a powerful presence in Latin America.

Star announced at an event today in Miami that Avianca-TACA and Copa will become its second and third Latin American members after Brazil's TAM, which formally joined earlier this year. Avianca-TACA and Copa will begin the implementation process, which typically takes one year to 18 months.

Adding Latin America's fourth- and sixth-largest airline groups will give Star the unusual position of having two members in Colombia and Brazil. Avianca is Colombia's largest airline while Copa Colombia, which until recently was known as Aero Republica, is the country's third largest carrier. In Brazil, TAM is the largest while Avianca Brazil, previously known as OceanAir, is the fifth-largest.

Copa has been considering joining Star since 2008, when it decided to exit SkyTeam. It formally left in October 2009 with close partner and former part-owner Continental Airlines. While Continental immediately entered Star, Copa slowly pondered its options and said was it was also considering staying non-aligned.

Copa has always maintained that El Salvador-based Grupo TACA's potential Star membership would not be a factor in its own alliance decision because their two networks have different focuses.

Grupo TACA first decided to pursue membership in Star over two years ago. TACA initially expected Star would accept its application by the end of 2008 but talks dragged on for nearly another two years without a decision by the alliance's board.

In October 2009, TACA unveiled plans to merge with Colombia's Avianca. At the time TACA said it would continue to pursue membership of Star on its own with Avianca potentially deciding later to pursue its own membership. But Avianca, which before the merger had indicated it planned to remain non-aligned, and TACA were urged by Star to pursue a joint application.

Avianca-TACA subsequently decided to initiate a new joint evaluation of potential global alliances. After speaking to both Star and SkyTeam, Avianca-TACA elected to pursue membership of Star as a merged entity. Their merger was completed early this year, leading to the creation of a new airline group with 13 carriers from 10 Latin American countries.

Avianca-TACA and Copa's joining Star will give the alliance a local presence for the first time in Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Panama.

Having Avianca-TACA and Copa on board also ensures that Star will continue to have a strong presence in the region should the new TAM-LAN combination eventually opt for Oneworld. While TAM is in Star, merger partner LAN is a long-time member of Oneworld.

After unveiling their merger plans earlier this year, the two carriers indicated they would stay in their respective alliances until at least 2012 although there recently has been some indication they may be forced to decide on one of the two global alliances earlier. TAM and LAN are already Latin America's two largest airline groups.

Before TAM joined Star earlier this year, Latin America was Star's biggest 'white spot' for coverage. The alliance had not had a member from the region since 2007, when Brazil's Varig left the alliance.

SkyTeam also has only one member from the region, Aeromexico, following Copa's exit. But SkyTeam is working on bringing in Aerolineas Argentinas and recruiting other Latin American members.

TACA already has codeshare agreements with several Star members including Lufthansa, United Airlines and US Airways. Avianca's main US partner is SkyTeam member Delta Air Lines and historically its main European partner has been Oneworld member Iberia. But last week Avianca signed a codeshare agreement with Lufthansa, moving the entire Avianca-TACA group closer to Star.

Copa's strongest bilateral partner is Continental which, earlier this year, merged with United Airlines. Copa also codeshares with KLM, which is still in SkyTeam.

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O que virou a aviação brasileira? :eek:hno:


Já tinha até engolido a "fusão" da TAM com a LAN,mas saber que há a possiblidade de ir para a Oneworld é demais.

Essa empresa perdeu todo e qualquer crédito que ainda depositava nela.

Mas,já diz aquele ditado:

Dize-me com quem andas que te direi quem és

Depois dessa, a Avianca Brasil tem tudo para ser melhor que essa joça dessa LATAM.

É só se tornar parceira da TAP e voilà.Somando com a Lufthansa,Swiss,Turkish,Continental,United,US,Singapore e SAA,o prato da AVBrasil está feito e pronto para ser comido.
 

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O melhor de tudo é que a Copa + TACA vão pulverizar totalmente o mercado brasileiro para os EUA,ou seja,mais uma vez parabéns ao empresariado brasileiro que não teve/tem um tico de estratégia para enfrentar as estrangeiras em casa,criando novas rotas,novos HUBS etc.Isso sem falar,da já fadada LAN e seu HUB em Lima.

Parabéns a todos os que tiveram "visão estratégica" e entregaram de mão beijada o mercado brasileiro para criar rotas e empregos em outros países com o nosso mercado.

Sim,eu sou nacionalista.Mas depois se perguntam porque o Brasil está assim.I wonder why...


Parceiras da Avianca Brasil.

TAP 1.180.081

Continental 347.141

Lufthansa 307.929

United 270.206

Copa 245.030

South African Airways 161.296

TACA Peru 153.891

AirCanada 135.337

Swiss 122.399

Avianca Colombia 116.850

Swiss(Chile) 13.621

E provavelmente da LATAM


American Airlines 912.952

Iberia 465.859

LAN Chile + Express 380.067

British Airways 159.813

AeroMexico 130.733

LAN Argentina 98.777

LAN Peru 81.339

British(Argentina) 38.664
 

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AVIANCA-TACA AND COPA AIRLINES TO JOIN STAR ALLIANCE​

MIAMI, FLORIDA, USA – November 10th, 2010 – Star Alliance, the way the Earth connects, will be expanding its presence in Latin America following the unanimous approval by its Chief Executive Board (CEB), to accept both Avianca-TACA and Copa Airlines as future member airlines.

“On behalf of the Chief Executive Board, it gives me great pleasure to invite Avianca-TACA and Copa Airlines to join the Star Alliance network. The addition of these two quality airline groups concludes a strategic process which increases the Alliance’s footprint in the vibrant, growing economies of Latin America,” Jaan Albrecht, CEO Star Alliance said. “The aviation landscape in this region is changing rapidly and alliances are playing an ever bigger role as Latin America continues to develop.”

The combined network of the two airline groups gives Star Alliance a more prominent footprint in Central America, the Caribbean and the northern and western regions of South America, as well as additional direct connections between Latin America and cities in Europe. Star Alliance passengers will in future have access to a large range of new destinations and flights connecting through the Copa Airlines hubs in Panama City (Panama) and Bogota (Colombia) and the Avianca-TACA hubs in Bogota (Colombia), San Salvador (El Salvador), Lima (Peru) and San Jose (Costa Rica).

At the same time, the existing Avianca-TACA and Copa Airlines customer base will be able to access the global Star Alliance network and make use of the benefits that an alliance provides, such as collecting and redeeming miles on all member carriers.

The addition of the two carrier groups is the culmination of a strategic process to extend Star Alliance’s reach in Latin America. This began with the addition of Continental Airlines just over a year ago, improving connections between North America and Central and South America. Further network expansion and improved connectivity to, from and within South America was made possible by the joining of TAM Airlines in May.

“Copa Airlines’ membership in Star Alliance will enhance our global reach as we implement strong partnerships with the Alliance’s 27 carriers and link Latin America’s most efficient hub, our Hub of the Americas in Panama City, to Star Alliance´s vast global network,” said Pedro Heilbron, CEO, Copa Airlines. “In addition, our participation in the Alliance will enhance our already strong commercial alliance with United-Continental, in place since 1998. We will now continue to build this value within the Star Alliance family.”

“We want to thank Star Alliance for welcoming us as future members of this truly global connectivity effort, joining the leading airline network in terms of daily flights, destinations and countries served as well as number of member airlines. As Avianca-TACA we are working towards becoming a valuable partner for Star Alliance and its members; it is a determining factor for our competitive strategy that will enable us to leap forward in terms of the scope and scale of the benefits provided to our passengers,” said Fabio Villegas, CEO of Avianca-TACA. “We are excited to start the incorporation process that will surely yield reciprocal benefits to all our clients and become a part of the Star Alliance promise of an enjoyable travel experience anywhere in the world.”

Avianca-TACA and Copa Airlines will bring 46 new destinations to the Star Alliance network. Once integration is complete, the customers of the 31 alliance members will have access to more than 22,500 daily flights serving 1,292 destinations in 188 countries.

Avianca-TACA serve more than 100 destinations around the world, operating a fleet of more than 150 modern short, medium and long range aircraft. The carrier group directly employs almost 12,000 people and has more than three million members in its loyalty program. Avianca and TACA, which each consolidate several smaller Latin American carriers, agreed to a strategic merger in October 2009, creating a combined network focusing on North, Central and South America, the Caribbean and cities in Europe. TACA’s initial request for Star Alliance membership dates back to 2008.

The two airlines of Copa Holdings - Copa Airlines and Copa Airlines Colombia - serve 52 destinations in 25 countries. The group recently strengthened its presence in Colombia, by rebranding Aero Republica to Copa Airlines Colombia. Copa Airlines’ Hub of the Americas at Tocumen International Airport in Panama City, Panama, is Latin America’s leading hub, with major traffic from the Caribbean, and Central and South America. Copa’s entrance into Star Alliance reinforces its 12-year-old alliance with United-Continental. Copa left Skyteam in October 2009.
In addition, Miami airport will also benefit from the latest Star Alliance expansion, with the number of Star Alliance member carriers present rising from seven to nine. “For Miami, this strengthens its role as the gateway between North America and the south of the continent,” Jaan Albrecht said.

The integration teams from Star Alliance, Avianca-TACA, Copa Airlines and the respective mentor carriers, Lufthansa and Continental, will now begin their work in order to achieve integration of both airline groups by mid 2012.

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Lembrando os code-share da TAM com a Star:


>TAP+LUFTHANSA+SWISS+BMI

Aberdeen
Amsterdam
Belfast
Berlin
Bruxelas
Dublin
Dusseldorf
Endimburgo
Faro
Funchal
Frankfurt
Genebra
Glasgow
Hamburgo
Hanover
Lisboa
Manchester
Munique
Paris
Porto
Porto Santo
Stuttgart
Viena
Zagreb
Zurich


>UNITED+US+CONTINETAL+AIR CANADA

Chicago
Cleveland
Dallas
Denver
Houston
Los Angeles
Montreal
San Francisco
Toronto
Washington

>ANA

Tokyo
 

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Não gostaria que a TAM saísse da Star. Me imagino viajando pra paraíba e depois poder usar minhas milhas star aliance pra ir pra Stambul(hehehehehe é um caso extremo, mas é provável). No caso da Avianca isso fica mais complicado pq a empresa voa muito pouco no nordeste, pra PB nem vai, e nem há previsão de voar a curto/médio prazo. Mas se os chefões lá da SA estão procurando mais parceiros na américa do sul é pq a coisa tá tendendo a isso.
 

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O melhor de tudo é que a Copa + TACA vão pulverizar totalmente o mercado brasileiro para os EUA,ou seja,mais uma vez parabéns ao empresariado brasileiro que não teve/tem um tico de estratégia para enfrentar as estrangeiras em casa,criando novas rotas,novos HUBS etc.Isso sem falar,da já fadada LAN e seu HUB em Lima.

Parabéns a todos os que tiveram "visão estratégica" e entregaram de mão beijada o mercado brasileiro para criar rotas e empregos em outros países com o nosso mercado.

Sim,eu sou nacionalista.Mas depois se perguntam porque o Brasil está assim.I wonder why...


Parceiras da Avianca Brasil.

TAP 1.180.081

Continental 347.141

Lufthansa 307.929

United 270.206

Copa 245.030

South African Airways 161.296

TACA Peru 153.891

AirCanada 135.337

Swiss 122.399

Avianca Colombia 116.850

Swiss(Chile) 13.621

E provavelmente da LATAM


American Airlines 912.952

Iberia 465.859

LAN Chile + Express 380.067

British Airways 159.813

AeroMexico 130.733

LAN Argentina 98.777

LAN Peru 81.339

British(Argentina) 38.664

Tens toda razão, onde eu assino?!

A visão de nosso empresariado é MUITO limitada. São MUITO fracos... :eek:hno:
 

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Nossa, quando penso nos administradores da TAM me dá até nojo.. esses herdeiros do Rolim estão fazendo com que o pai sofra lá de cima...

só não são piores que o da Varig, que robaram tanto a empresa que ela até quebrou...
 

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Nossa, quando penso nos administradores da TAM me dá até nojo.. esses herdeiros do Rolim estão fazendo com que o pai sofra lá de cima...

só não são piores que o da Varig, que robaram tanto a empresa que ela até quebrou...
é verdade e tem mais..... um mercado do tamanho do nosso não segura uma empresa 100% nacional vergonha...o filé da america latina em consumidor aereo.....
 

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Concordo com a maioria. A Tam se encaixa perfeitamente na frase popular "Não caga e não sai da moita", grande demais pra permitir que outras empresas brasileiras nasçam e cresçam rapidamente e com uma visão pequena demais pro tamanho do mercado Brasileiro. Então fica aquela coisa no meio, satisfeita com seus voozinhos dentro do pais e um ou outro voo internacional. A Gol pelo seu modelo não tem muito interesse no mercado internacional também. O resultado é isso ai , as estrangeiras agradecem inclusive companhias de países minúsculos abocanhando grandes fatias das viagens internacionais do Brasil.
 

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O que virou a aviação brasileira? :eek:hno:


Já tinha até engolido a "fusão" da TAM com a LAN,mas saber que há a possiblidade de ir para a Oneworld é demais.

Essa empresa perdeu todo e qualquer crédito que ainda depositava nela.

Mas,já diz aquele ditado:

Dize-me com quem andas que te direi quem és

Depois dessa, a Avianca Brasil tem tudo para ser melhor que essa joça dessa LATAM.

É só se tornar parceira da TAP e voilà.Somando com a Lufthansa,Swiss,Turkish,Continental,United,US,Singapore e SAA,o prato da AVBrasil está feito e pronto para ser comido.
Pq parceira da TAP? Nem todas as cidades que a TAP voa é atendida pela Avianca. E a Avianca tem poucas rotas NE-NE.
 

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A Avianca Brasil ainda não será da SA. O GE terá de fazer mudanças e incluir ela na holding Avianca-Taca.

Acho que o Zehneh fala de parceria com a TAP pelo fato da TAP ser SA e ter mais vôos para a Europa. Como a Avianca entra na SA, a parceria é plausível e interessante.
 
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