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BAGHDAD -- Iraqi officials say foreign firms will be invited to take part in a tender to build an elevated monorail and subway lines in Baghdad to help reduce traffic in the congested capital, RFE/RL's Radio Free Iraq reports.

Baghdad Mayor Salih Abdel Razzak said the monorail in particular will help unsnarl a city notorious for its traffic jams.

Iraqi railways Director Rafil Yussef Abbas told RFI that the planned monorail line, whose cost is estimated at $3 billion, should be 36 kilometers long and have 13 stations in Baghdad. He said it should be able to carry 23 million passengers per year.

Issmat Amir Jabbar, an adviser to the transport minister, told RFI that the monorail train will be 8-10 meters above ground.

Abbas said the tender for the monorail will be held "soon" but did not specify a date. Construction is expected to take several years.

He said the monorail project is technically easier and cheaper to build than the subway.

Hakim Abd al-Zahra, a spokesman for the Baghdad mayor's office, said French Systra is advising on the plans.

Zahra added that bids for the subway project will be sought after Systra presents a final report. He said two underground lines are planned, the first about 18 kilometers long with 20 stations and the second 21 kilometers long with 21 stations.

Mayor Razzak said the monorail will connect major districts of the capital on both sides of the Tigris River, from the sprawling Sadr City in eastern Baghdad to the more affluent western area of Mansour.

A Baghdad resident, Salima Mohsen, told RFI that her children often miss the first hour of school due to the traffic and said she hoped that the officials' plans "translate into action on the ground."

Iraq planned to build a subway network in Baghdad in the 1980s but the project was aborted due to the Iran-Iraq war.

source: http://www.rferl.org/content/Baghdad_To_Build_Elevated_Monorail_Subway/1973290.html
 

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i hope they will built it, baghdad could really use it
 

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baghdad investment commission, hot on the heels of Najaf and Erbil... announce a monoral project linking:

Sha3ab - mustansiriya - al waziriya - sarafiya bridge - a3taifiya - kadhmiya - muthanna airport (baghdad gates) - 3alawi hilla (garage / railway station).

length 25km apparently (although by my calculation should be at least 30km...)

each train consists of 4-6 carriages, each carriage being 50m in length.
Maximum speed 90km/h
Passengers: 250
time at each station: 1.5-2 minutes


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استثمار بغداد : تعلن انشاء قطار (معلق) (Moneyrail) في بغداد ..
8/31/2010


اعلنت هيئة استثمار محافظة بغداد عن اقامة قطار معلق (Monorail) وحسب المسار (المستنصرية – الشعب – الوزيرية – جسر الصرافية – العطيفية - الكاظمية – مطار المثنى – العلاوي) وبطول 25 كم .. وبين الاستاذ شاكر الزاملي رئيس هيئة استثمار بغداد ان القطار الواحد يحتوي (4-6) عربات وطوله 50 م وسرعته القصوى 90 كم/ساعة ويستوعب 250 راكب وفترة تردده على المحطة تستغرق (1.5-2 دقيقة) والتي يبلغ طولها 60م .. وسوف يساهم هذا المشروع وبشكل ملحوظ على تقليل استخدام المركبات التي تعمل بالوقود وفي تقليل التلوث البيئي فهو يعتبر صديق للبيئة لا يؤثر سيره على الوسط البيئي الذ يسير فيه حيث انه لا يحرر غازات سامة او ملوثة للبيئة كما تفعل المركبات او قطارات الديزل الاعتيادية، فضلاً عن ندرة الحوادث حيث ان السير لهذا النوع من وسائل النقل امين جداً بعكس المركبات الاخرى الى تؤدي الى خسائر بشرية نتيجة الحوادث المتكررة.
 

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so what's the status of this project? just a proposal, or is approved etc..

we already had a fair share of monorail project announcements in the past :lol:
 

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some more details...

Russian Companies to Build Monorail in Baghdad
Posted on 30 October 2010. Tags: Baghdad, monorail, Russia

A group of Russian companies has been offered the project to build a monorail in Baghdad, according to Aswat al-Iraq.
“Baghdad’s Hanging Train [monorail?] project, offered tp Russian companies, is expected to stretch for 25 kms, with a total capacity of 10,000 passengers per hour, through 16 stations, distributed between Baghdad’s two banks of Rusafa and Karkkh,” Deputy Governor of Baghdad, Kamel Al-Saadi said told the agency on Saturday.
He said that the train would follow two routes, the first beginning from East Baghdad’s Shaab district, passing through Mustansiriya, Kazimiya and end in central Baghdad’s Alawi al-Hilla, whilst the other begins from west Baghdad’s Yarmouk district, passing through Muthann Airport and also ending in Alawi al-Hilla.
In June, Canadian company TransGlobim International won the contract to build a monorail in the holy city of Najaf.
 

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thanks for the update..


we really need to get the company's name.. shouldn't there be a bidding process?

funny how quiet the Baghdad counsel & ministry of transport are now so silent about the Baghdad metro.. after the amount of hype they put out for the bidding and selection process, construction in theory should started now :eek:hno:
 

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hahaha. yea the metro. although several kilometers of tunnels are already bored in parts of baghdad including thawra and mesbah... iraq is simply too poor to really pay for such a scheme today. perhaps in 10 years time.

trams are much cheaper and more practical really for iraq.
 

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Alstom signs agreement for Baghdad Elevated Train project

Meed reported that France’s Alstom has signed an agreement with Baghdad Municipality to discuss the possibility of signing a contract to build the estimated USD 600 million Baghdad Elevated Train project.

An Alstom spokesman said that “Alstom is willing to contribute to the reconstruction program in Iraq, in particular within the public transport area. Thus, Alstom has signed an agreement that opens a period of discussions with Baghdad local government, with the objective of signing a contract for the Baghdad Elevated Train.”

The project involves building a line that runs for 25 kilometers on a viaduct, which is aimed to reduce congestion in the city. It will link the areas of Al Mustansiriya and Alawi al Hilla in central Baghdad.

The French government will pay between 50% and 60% of the total project cost. The remainder will be financed through a low interest loan from a French government run bank that will be repaid over 20 years. The project was launched in July 2010.

The first line of the monorail will start from Mustansiriya and run to the Central Station in Alawi al Hilla in central Baghdad via Waziriya, Shaab, Sarafiya bridge, Buratha mosque, Abdulmohsin al Kazimi Square, Eden Square and Muthanna airport.

The second line will run from the Baya area to Doora highway, Oqba Square and will end at the Masbah metro station. The line will take about two years to build. This is a separate project to the USD 3 billion Baghdad metro.

A 37 kilometer long monorail project is already under way in the city of Najaf, which is located about 160 kilometers south of Baghdad.

Najaf and the nearby town of Karbala are both popular destinations for Shia pilgrims and they have shrines and monuments of religious significance. Currently, about 70 million pilgrims travel to Najaf each year. The monorail will help to reduce congestion in the city and transport the pilgrims around the city more easily.
 

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^^ So we have some sort of answer, there are 2 projects (each consisting of one line apparently)

also, according to this article... the Najaf monorail is still alive.. fingers crossed
 

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This sounds more like an elevated urban railway than a monorail. The Makkah monorail in Saudia Arabia is actually an elevated urban railway. On the other hand, the Dubai monorail is a true monorail. Anyone living in Najaf have pictures of the construction?
 

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Iraq signed a preliminary agreement with France to build a train network commentator in Baghdad

Monday, 30 May 2011 09:06 GMT

Alsumaria News / Baghdad

Council declared the province of Baghdad, on Monday, has signed a preliminary agreement with a French company to create a network train commentator in Baghdad, noting that the legislature will be funded from the French bank loan to pay the Iraqi government, while noting that the train will pass with 14 stations and will reduce the momentum of traffic, said completion of the project in a maximum period of five years.

The head of the Strategic Planning Committee of the Council Mohammed al-Rubaie said in an interview for "Alsumaria News", "It was signed a preliminary agreement with Alstom of France to all the details of network train commentator," noting that "the agreement was attended by the French Embassy and the Governor of Baghdad and the Working Group of the relationship such as Strategic Planning Committee in the provincial council and Investment Commission and the passage of Baghdad, Baghdad, Baghdad, and the Secretariat of the Railway Bureau of the Ministry of Transport. "

The spring that "the agreement comes four months after the signing of the First Convention in Paris, which was a memorandum of understanding states that take the idea from them, They are implemented through investment," noting that "the cost of the project amounted to one billion and 167 thousand euros."

Rubaie added that "the project will finance a soft loan from the Bank of France's World, and banks supported by the Paris company Alstom, a French finance, 1% and over 30 years paid by the Iraqi government," noting that "the rail commentator will be length of 21 km simplified."

He said al-Rubaie said he was "within one year will be the designs in full, and after the year begins with implementing the project on 14 stations, so that it starts from the plant world in the Alawi neighborhood through the cities of Kadhimiya and Mustansiriya Sadr City, to end up in the city of people back and forth," explaining that "the train can accommodate 30 A passenger, a high-speed train would reduce traffic on the momentum in Baghdad, as well as it is not polluting the environment. "

Rubaie confirmed that "the experimental work will begin during the period of standing years and eight months, and the completion of the project will be within 3-5 years."

Announced that the Planning Commission in Baghdad governorate, in January 13 last, that the draft train Baghdad commentator will pass a distance of 25 km in the province, on both sides Karkh and Rusafa, indicating that this train runs on electricity and does not need any media and fuel the other, while assuring that the duration of the project will be years and six months from the date of signing the contract.

The head of the Strategic Planning Committee of the Board of Baghdad, Muhammad al-Rubaie, announced at the fifteenth of the month of January, the delegation included members of the secretariat and the Baghdad Provincial Council and the General Directorate of Traffic and House of Representatives signed a memorandum with a French company a giant in the field trains, in order to develop final plans Baghdad to train outstanding within 180 days.

The General Company for Iraqi rail Division train commentator, presented earlier to the Investment Authority, Baghdad investment opportunity to create a train Baghdad commentator (Baghdad Monorail), which set a track first by the company, which includes Mustansiriya, the people, Waziriya, Sarafiya bridge, Utaifiyya, Kadhimiya, Muthanna airport, Al-Alawi.

And return the first plan to build a metro network in Iraq to the seventies, if it is not freeze the plan because of the Iran-Iraq war (1980 - 1988) was to be the first project of its kind in the Arab world.
 

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Board of Baghdad: the train project is not included in the budget



Baghdad, November 3 (Rn) - The Committee for Planning and follow-up in the province of Baghdad on Thursday that the rail project commentator is not included in the budget next year, which meant that the French company to prepare preliminary designs.

Committee Chairman Mohammed al-Rubaie told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) that "the train project commentator can not be implemented within the budget in 2012 because there are administrative and bureaucratic obstacles in addition to the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers has not been formally approved yet."

He added that "the company informed the French Alixtrom the Baghdad Provincial Council that it has allocated 500 thousand dollars for the initial design of the train hanging from a bank loan interest rate to 1% and take a paid 15-year period."

The Iraqi Government has allocated an amount of one trillion and 200 million dinars for Baghdad within the next year budget.

He pointed out that the spring "of strategic projects in the capital, Baghdad, and require a long time because there are complex administrative procedures to expedite the stands completed."

He explained that "the local government in Baghdad sent the project to the Federal Government since July last, but received no response so that the Iraqi government did not make clear the obstacles that prevent the signing of the contract with the French company."

Offered to the province of Baghdad's giant rail project in June of last year, which set a course before the first of which includes the province and the people and Mustansiriya Waziriya Bridge Sarafiya and Utaifiyya Kadhimiya and Muthanna airport and Allawi.

The train on the use of medians in the public streets and provide a solid pillars of engineering.

Baghdad suffers from a severe crisis due to the transfer of the large number of checkpoints and the increasing number of cars and spare many of the subsidiary and the main streets because of security conditions.
 

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The french guy said it would take around 8 months to finalize everything and to agree on a price ... this video was posted in May so in January 2012 is construction meant to start ?
 

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The french guy said it would take around 8 months to finalize everything and to agree on a price ... this video was posted in May so in January 2012 is construction meant to start ?
It's only been 7 months :D...1 month to go..although I'm very skeptical about this project, just like najafs mono rail.
 

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Meed reported that France’s Alstom has signed an agreement with Baghdad Municipality to discuss the possibility of signing a contract to build the estimated USD 600 million Baghdad Elevated Train project.
An Alstom spokesman said that “Alstom is willing to contribute to the reconstruction program in Iraq, in particular within the public transport area. Thus, Alstom has signed an agreement that opens a period of discussions with Baghdad local government, with the objective of signing a contract for the Baghdad Elevated Train.”
The project involves building a line that runs for 25 kilometers on a viaduct, which is aimed to reduce congestion in the city. It will link the areas of Al Mustansiriya and Alawi al Hilla in central Baghdad.
The French government will pay between 50% and 60% of the total project cost. The remainder will be financed through a low interest loan from a French government run bank that will be repaid over 20 years. The project was launched in July 2010.
The first line of the monorail will start from Mustansiriya and run to the Central Station in Alawi al Hilla in central Baghdad via Waziriya, Shaab, Sarafiya bridge, Buratha mosque, Abdulmohsin al Kazimi Square, Eden Square and Muthanna airport.
The second line will run from the Baya area to Doora highway, Oqba Square and will end at the Masbah metro station. The line will take about two years to build. This is a separate project to the USD 3 billion Baghdad metro. A 37 kilometer long monorail project is already under way in the city of Najaf, which is located about 160 kilometers south of Baghdad.
Najaf and the nearby town of Karbala are both popular destinations for Shia pilgrims and they have shrines and monuments of religious significance. Currently, about 70 million pilgrims travel to Najaf each year. The monorail will help to reduce congestion in the city and transport the pilgrims around the city more easily.




This agreement can be viewed from over 20 sources on google.
 

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(about the elevated train project)

29/12/12


Baghdad Provincial Council approved a resolution authorizing the governor authority to contract with competent international companies to preparation Altsamm initial train project for Baghdad, which is expected to be implemented during the next five years, at a cost of one billion and 650 million dollars paid according to the payment system on credit.

The head of the Committee on Transport and Communications in the Baghdad Provincial Council Suhair al-Jubouri, drawings, studies and motion paths in Baghdad train project will be forwarded to the French company Alstom, which has pledged completion of work within ten months.

She drew Jubouri that train project Baghdad commentator longer ongoing projects that have received approval Presidency of the Council of Ministers and the Ministry of Transportation, adding that the project will provide a solution strategically necessary transport and traffic jams, as a capacity for this train about one thousand passengers per hour and will pass on the 14 stations of the transfer in Baghdad , and begin the first phase of the project of the Alawi and ending the people passing through area Kadhimiya and Adhamiya and Mustansiriya.

After nearly a year of negotiations and consultations between the concerned departments and institutions train project boat Baghdad commentator of the implementation phase and prepare designs and studies, drawings and motion paths.

And welcomed the Director General of the Department of Planning in the General Directorate of Traffic Brigadier Najim Abdallah Jaber idea of ​​running a train hanging in Baghdad, adding that the project falls within the mass transit initiatives that reduced the number of vehicles on the street, and provide a means quick and convenient transportation.

Jaber said that the streets of Baghdad complaining deficit accommodate vehicles up to a million and a quarter of a million cars, noting that these streets, who stayed on the design and absorptive capacity, earlier complained of overcrowding about ten years ago, let alone now.


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صادق مجلس محافظة بغداد على قرار تخويل المحافظ صلاحية التعاقد مع شركات عالمية مختصة لاعداد التصامم الاولية لمشروع قطار بغداد المعلق، الذي من المتوقع تنفيذه خلال السنوات الخمس المقبلة، بكلفة تقدر بمليار و650 مليون دولار تسدد وفق نظام الدفع بالاجل.

وقالت رئيسة لجنة النقل والاتصالات في مجلس محافظة بغداد سهير الجبوري، ان المخططات والدراسات ومسارات الحركة في مشروع قطار بغداد المعلق ستحال الى شركة الستوم الفرنسية، التي تعهدت بانجاز العمل خلال عشرة اشهر.

ولفتت الجبوري الى ان مشروع قطار بغداد المعلق يعد من المشاريع المستمرة التي حصلت على موافقة رئاسة مجلس الوزراء ووزارة النقل، موضحة ان المشروع سيوفر حلا استراتيجيا لازمة النقل والاختناقات المرورية، إذ تصل الطاقة الاستيعابية لهذا القطار نحو الف راكب في الساعة وسيمر على 14محطة للنقل في بغداد، وتبدأ المرحلة الاولى للمشروع من منطقة العلاوي وتنتهي بمنطقة الشعب مرورا بالكاظمية والاعظمية والمستنصرية.

وبعد نحو عام من المفاوضات والمشاورات بين الدوائر والمؤسسات المعنية قارب مشروع قطار بغداد المعلق من مرحلة التنفيذ واعداد التصاميم والدراسات والمخططات ومسارات الحركة.

ورحب مدير عام دائرة التخطيط في مديرية المرور العامة العميد نجم عبد جابر بفكرة تشغيل قطار معلق في بغداد، موضحا ان المشروع يندرج ضمن مبادرات النقل الجماعي التي تختزل اعداد السيارات في الشارع، وتوفر وسيلة نقل مريحة وسريعة.

واوضح جابر ان شوارع بغداد تشكو عجزا في استيعاب السيارات التي يصل عددها حاليا الى مليون وربع المليون سيارة، مشيرا ان هذه الشوارع التي بقت على تصاميمها وقدرتها الاستيعابية السابقة كانت تشكو من الزحام الشديد قبل نحو عشر سنوات فما بالك حاليا.​
 

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لسومرية نيوز/ بغداد
وقع محافظ بغداد صلاح عبد الرزاق، الأحد، عقدا مع شركة فرنسية لوضع التصاميم لمشروع القطار المعلق في مدينة بغداد، مشيرة إلى إن كلفة المشروع ضمن مرحلته الأولى تبلغ مليار و500 مليون دولار.

وقال عبد الرزاق في حديث لـ"السومرية نيوز"، على هامش توقيع العقد، إن "المحافظة وقعت عقدا مع شركة الستوم الفرنسية لوضع التصاميم لمشروع القطار المعلق ضمن المرحلة الأولى له"، مشيرا إلى أن "كلفة المشروع ضمن مرحلته الأولى تبلغ مليارا و500 مليون دولار".

وأضاف عبد الرزاق أن "الهدف من المشروع هو لتقليل الاختناقات المرورية ونقل المواطنين بسرعة اكبر لمناطق أكثر داخل العاصمة، كونه سيكون الشروع الأول من نوعه للنقل الجماعي في بغداد حيث سنقل 30 ألف راكب بالساعة".

وأشار محافظ بغداد إلى أن "المشروع سيمر على جانبي الرصافة والكرخ وبمسافة 25 كم"، مبينا أن "المرحلة الأولى منه التي تتضمن بناء 14 محطة تبدأ من منطقة الشعب مرورا بالمستنصرية ومن ثم العطيفية ومطار المثنى وتنتهي بمنطقة العلاوي التي تعتبر المحطة النهائية له".

وبين عبد الرزاق ان "كلفة هذا المشروع ستكون على شكل أقساط تسدد لمدة ستة سنوات"، لافتا إلى أن "القطار سيسير بالطاقة الكهربائية من محطات خاصة بها من دون الاعتماد على الطاقة المحلية".

ولفت عبد الرزاق إلى أن "المرحلة الثانية من المسار الذي يبدأ من منطقة العلاوي مرورا بجامع أم الطبول ومن ثم البياع والسيدية ليتم بعدها المرحلة الثالثة منه التي تبدأ من السيدية الى الجادرية ومرورا بالكرادة ومن ثم منطقة العلاوي".

وكان رئيس لجنة التخطيط الإستراتيجي في مجلس بغداد محمد الربيعي، أعلن في 15 كانون الثاني 2013، إن وفدا ضم أعضاء من أمانة ومجلس محافظة بغداد ومديرية المرور العامة ومجلس النواب وقع مذكرة تفاهم مع شركة فرنسية عملاقة في مجال القطارات، من أجل وضع المخططات النهائية لقطار بغداد المعلق خلال 180 يوما.

يذكر أن الشركة العامة للسكك الحديد العراقية شعبة القطار المعلق، قدمت في وقت سابق إلى هيئة استثمار بغداد فرصة استثمارية لإنشاء قطار بغداد المعلق (Baghdad Monorail)، وتعود أول خطة لبناء شبكة مترو في العراق إلى السبعينات، ولو لم يتم تجميد الخطة بسبب الحرب العراقية الإيرانية (1980 - 1988) لكانت بمثابة أول مشروع من نوعه في العالم العربي.
 
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