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Hi, well I read this (posted somewhere else) report by the International Crisis Group. This is serious stuff (point in the monument thread), and as a Sunni, I understand fully what this report talks about. Here is a link to the report, scary imo if nothin happens about it.

http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?l=1&id=3404

Post your thoughts about this. I'll comment later.
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There is nothing wrong in our country or our modified constitution.

The only problem comes from on place, that being people, one sort of people, one group of people, an isolated minority.

No risks of such are in Bahrain this report is not accurate.
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Are you sure? How is this report not accurate.

Are you sure they are an isolated minority
What about the rallies that are being staged? I've been readin about many. The problem is that the state is kinda usin a police type of authority, not sure that is a good move.

I mean you live in Bahrain at the moment, you must have noticed somethin within the last few months.


I think part of the problem lies in the fact that the nuwab council (can't really explain how great they are, difficult to describe them in words) hasn't really be tackling the proper issues concerning the country.
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Moody said:
See,

There is nothing wrong in our country or our modified constitution.

The only problem comes from on place, that being people, one sort of people, one group of people, an isolated minority.

No risks of such are in Bahrain this report is not accurate.
isolated minority? have u read the article properly? The article discusses discriminatory issues faced by the Shiite community. Incase you didnt know Shiites make up about 70% or more of Bahrain's population. And I dont think that can be considered anywhere near an "isolated minority". You dont hear about these issues because you are not aloud to hear about them. its a shame but its the truth...the reality of our country's political situation isnt as flowery as it is portrayed to be but inshAllah bahrain one day finds TRUE political stability...and it has been getting better but not good enough in my oppinion.
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I think the goverment done so many things to satisfy the Shiite community but still things are not getting better, do you think if the goverment maintain 1973 Constitution, things will be better?
can you imagine the rules that MPs (nuwab) are coming with now without al shura council? it will be a disaster. shura has got very well educated people where 90% of the nuwab are not.
did you read this part " ending informal and formal practices that prohibit Shiites from living in predominantly Sunni residential areas"
my cousin used to live in shiites area they forced him by making all the disturbance you can imagine to leave the his place. i think sunni people they like thier own areas and shiite does. but you have to understand that i'm not talking about all the shiite.
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Elmahri said:
I think the goverment done so many things to satisfy the Shiite community
propaganda is a powerful tool. dont believe everything you read in the GDN or Alayam.
Well we've made some progress, but more is still needed...i almost fully agree with the article, save for the fact that it seems to me to be very exaggerated, or rather cynical...I believe all the problems outlined in the article do exist to some degree...except for a couple im not soo sure about....but the article makes it all sound very "combustile"...It sounds like theres an impending and imminent disaster or whatever....thats a very very cynical and negative view of the situation....

And even though the MP's right now aren't really doing their job, and their disastrous proposals might affect us more if they had more power, or as much power as they were granted in the 1973 constitution, constitutional reforms are needed, well some at least...I don't think the new constitution limited the MP's powers for fear of what's happening now, i.e. their backward proposals etc....It was just what it is, a step to limit their powers, and yet somewhat pacify and appease the population and their seemingly incessant calls for the restoration of the parliment...Also, it probably was meant or at least served as grounds for a somewhat undue international recognition and praise, as the article mentioned vis-á-vis the benefactor, the states..

Moody, i think the parliment is a farce, in ohhh SOO MANY ways...The new modified constitution very much limits the parliments powers...The parliment, in effect, is unable to make any big decisions that may go against the government's wishes...Theoretically its all possible, but its not practical or realistic...

Just some of my thoughts on the situation...I'm not saying i'm with or agreeing with the opposition or anybody....
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Nothing is wrong with Bahrain neither a year ago, few months ago, nor a week ago !!

These are as mentioned, a minority. and for those who started talking in a racist language, little shame on you, cuz Sunnies and Shittets are brothers and no such disagreement is present.

those who demonstrate on the roads block our future? hehe they are about 5000 to 7000 at maximum, have no word, cuz majority support governmental reforms and voted in favor of the National Charter and also in the representative councel elections.

We haven't got problems of anysort as mentioned in that article? very strange article !

And some people have believed all about it? so what this is not a peace of Quran or something, just some ppl who put their sick ideas, which dont help our countries image.

No, I dont agree that there is any room for such stuff in Bahrain, only the unemployed or those who have so much time to spare ( not busy enough with work amd family) and extremests do some trouble here and there ! which has no harm, and shall go away with ignorance and so on.
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Moody said:
Nothing is wrong with Bahrain neither a year ago, few months ago, nor a week ago !!

These are as mentioned, a minority. and for those who started talking in a racist language, little shame on you, cuz Sunnies and Shittets are brothers and no such disagreement is present.

those who demonstrate on the roads block our future? hehe they are about 5000 to 7000 at maximum, have no word, cuz majority support governmental reforms and voted in favor of the National Charter and also in the representative councel elections.

We haven't got problems of anysort as mentioned in that article? very strange article !

And some people have believed all about it? so what this is not a peace of Quran or something, just some ppl who put their sick ideas, which dont help our countries image.

No, I dont agree that there is any room for such stuff in Bahrain, only the unemployed or those who have so much time to spare ( not busy enough with work amd family) and extremests do some trouble here and there ! which has no harm, and shall go away with ignorance and so on.
Moody explain to me how i am talking in a racist language? Please read my posts properly before making accusations.

You think I want to hear about these things? No, i am in the same position of disappointment as anyone would be upon reading such news. And I would love to say that it is not true but unfortunately people learn alot of things when they leave Bahrain. As B. Patriot said the article may be a little bit exaggurated. It is a shame however you refuse to even consider its slightest credibility because maybe only then will you get an idea of the what the reality of Bahrain is behind the glamour of the GDN and co. Bahrain is better than alot of places on this earth, but it is nowhere near utopia.

Brother if we refuse to accept the reality of the situation then im sorry to say that we will get nowhere. Acknowedging such problems is the only way to solve them.
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Moody said:
No, I dont agree that there is any room for such stuff in Bahrain, only the unemployed or those who have so much time to spare ( not busy enough with work amd family) and extremests do some trouble here and there ! which has no harm, and shall go away with ignorance and so on.
oh and just thought that you should know unemployment is one of THE BIGGEST problems faced in Bahrain's economy today. so id think twice about making such comments ;).
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Moody, i totally agree with you.
sky_line BRN, why do we have to refuse the reality, and what is the reality? maybe we need to make more effort to gother sunni and shiite in one path which is working for Bahrain where we belong to.
regarding the unemployment i think the govt. is really trying hard to creat jobs in bahrain and you can see it by all that number of the new projects coming to the country.
so, why dont we just give the govt 2 more years after most of the projects are ready to see what's gona happen.
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So do u, Elmahri and Moody, really think Bahrain's current constitution is fine? It shouldn't be further modified or reformed? not even the slightest bit?
Skyline-BRN said:
Moody explain to me how i am talking in a racist language? Please read my posts properly before making accusations.

You think I want to hear about these things? No, i am in the same position of disappointment as anyone would be upon reading such news. And I would love to say that it is not true but unfortunately people learn alot of things when they leave Bahrain. As B. Patriot said the article may be a little bit exaggurated. It is a shame however you refuse to even consider its slightest credibility because maybe only then will you get an idea of the what the reality of Bahrain is behind the glamour of the GDN and co. Bahrain is better than alot of places on this earth, but it is nowhere near utopia.

Brother if we refuse to accept the reality of the situation then im sorry to say that we will get nowhere. Acknowedging such problems is the only way to solve them.
Could you please tell me where I mentioned you in my article??!! It's you who should read properly and not me :)
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Skyline-BRN said:
oh and just thought that you should know unemployment is one of THE BIGGEST problems faced in Bahrain's economy today. so id think twice about making such comments ;).
Dude,

Unemployment is a Global Problem, and was not invented in Bahrain !
Bahraini Patriot said:
So do u, Elmahri and Moody, really think Bahrain's current constitution is fine? It shouldn't be further modified or reformed? not even the slightest bit?

I read all constitution when was released, many times, and found it very mature.

Any modifications are left for the Nuwab and Shoura Councel, National Assembly i should say. if and when they see a need (if needed)

Now, I think no need, onlything is to learn from current experience.

The idea is, not to diliver power in one shot, but gradually, it is a very wise start for democracy, however some ppl want to benefit from this issue to promote other ideas, their ideas, which claim lack of power.

Imagine a kid and a car ! can you give him keys and ask him to drive on the highway and assume no accident will happen?? No

So, current constitution is Just Great. and is a master piece, we have many Civilized countries backing us.
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Well i too read the constitution, and the balance of power is very different from that which the 1973 constitution stipulates....The MP's have less power, the government effectively has more at the expense of the ppl....The MP's will not be able to bring about this gradual increase in power or democracy whch u mention unless the government allows them to...The government should be responsible to the MP's, the people, but now its responsible to the National Assembly which is 50% Shura, the Shura being appointed by the government, or rather the head of the government, soo they are naturally with the government, which hinders a true democratic process and the governments accountability to the people...Don't you see that?
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I think the current constitution is in favour for the sunnah to remain in power, so why they should change???
Moody said:
Could you please tell me where I mentioned you in my article??!! It's you who should read properly and not me :)
Your so called 'article' was a direct response to my reply to your first message. In youre response im sure you cleary said...
Moody said:
for those who started talking in a racist language, little shame on you, cuz Sunnies and Shittets are brothers and no such disagreement is present.
Now it does not take a genious to understand how you were obviously pissed off about how I brought in the Shiite issue in the first place. But just let me remind you that I mentioned the dominance of the Shiite population in Bahrain because you had labelled the victims of the original article an "isolated minority", despite it's clear association with the Shiite community. And if you still think these issues have no truth in them then I suggest you drive into the villages of Sitra or Duraz and see how people live there..
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Moody said:
Dude,

Unemployment is a Global Problem, and was not invented in Bahrain !
That just shows how ignorant you are. Bahrain's unemployment rate is one of the most serious downfalls in our economy, and if you dont recognize this as a problem then i really dont know what to say to you.
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