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I really wish there was a feasible way to rebuild the arena at its current site. I think the location is perfect and it could help spur even more development on that side of downtown.

Though very doubtful, if Baltimore had a third professional team (NBA or NHL, most likely NBA over NHL), that would be huge. Even if we were able to get the Blast to move back, and have a minor league hockey team or D League basketball team it would be a boost. I went to a Caps game a few months ago and every restaurant within a 3 block radius was full of Caps fans and there are a ton of restaurants in Chinatown. That sort of help from a sports team can keep restaurants afloat.

Another benefit of a new arena even without another sports team is the events and tourism that come with it. Hosting NCAA tournament rounds, NCAA Conference tournaments, and even regular season NCAA tournaments draw large crowds from outside the area. Crowds that are staying in hotels, eating at restaurants, and experiencing the city when they may not have come here otherwise.
I agree. It would be a tremendous anchor for the downtown and west side. Arenas, even if you can just put one pro team in there, are amazingly active. Between the pro team playing, potential March Madness and conference tournament games, plus all the concerts and kids events, it can be busy basically every day of the entire year. Our arena is a total embarrassment. Anyone I know that goes there for the first time is appalled by its condition. It gives a terribly negative impression of the city, although of course so does people getting murdered right outside of it in the middle of downtown in broad daylight.
 

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I agree. It would be a tremendous anchor for the downtown and west side. Arenas, even if you can just put one pro team in there, are amazingly active. ...
I dunno. Maybe I'm the outlier. I just don't see an arena in the current location doing much for the west side or downtown.

Historically, the building itself -- originally proposed for Druid Hill Park -- has functioned as a divider between downtown and the west side.

When the arena was new and clean and 19th c. brick buildings were considered passé or worse, it functioned as a screen so that visitors to the new, modern Charles Center wouldn't see the old stuff on the other side.

But it absolutely killed the block of Howard Street it sits on.
 

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I dunno. Maybe I'm the outlier. I just don't see an arena in the current location doing much for the west side or downtown.

Historically, the building itself -- originally proposed for Druid Hill Park -- has functioned as a divider between downtown and the west side.

When the arena was new and clean and 19th c. brick buildings were considered passé or worse, it functioned as a screen so that visitors to the new, modern Charles Center wouldn't see the old stuff on the other side.

But it absolutely killed the block of Howard Street it sits on.
I don't see it as a barrier as much as I see no one having a reason to go to the west side of the arena. That one block isn't going to make or break the connection of the entire west side to the entire downtown. A new and active arena has much more benefits imo.

As much as I'd love to see the arena at Pier V and seeing an iconic building added to Baltimore's image I think logistically that is a horrible spot for it. There is absolutely ZERO transit for that location. The current site already has light rail service and has a metro station a block away.
 

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January 23, 2020 - Meeting #28
AGENDA

URBAN DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURE ADVISORY PANEL

9:30 a.m. - 10:30 a.m.

Schematic – Cross Street Market Addition

Developer: Atlas Restaurant Group

Design Team: BCT Architects


10:30 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.

Continued Design Dev. – University of Maryland Baltimore BioPark – 4 MLK Boulevard

Developer: Wexford Science and Technology / UMB

Design Team: ZGF/ Mahan Rykiel Associates / STV


12:00 p.m. - 1:00 p.m. BREAK


1:00 p.m. - 2:30 p.m.

Schematic – Alta Federal Hill Phase II - 1900 South Hanover Street

Developer: Wood Partners

Design Team: JDavis Architects

The next scheduled UDAAP meeting will be Thursday, February 6th.
 

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Were we previously aware of the Cross Street Market addition? I'm not remembering it.
Yes, I believe I heard months ago Atlas planned to add a second floor("Rooftop") Crab Deck for their seafood restaurant going in the market.

https://www.southbmore.com/2019/04/17/atlas-restaurant-group-in-lease-negotiations-for-a-crab-house-seafood-tavern-and-seafood-market-at-cross-street-market/

"The space for Atlas is about 5,000 sq. ft. and has an entrance on S. Charles St. This space was recently gutted after Nick’s left in January. Preliminary work to update the systems, exterior, and entrances to the space has been underway. Mirmiran previously told SouthBMore.com that a rooftop deck for outdoor dining is a possibility for this space."
 

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^^nowadays, it seems like everything (literally) that the Atlas Restaurant Group touches turns to gold!! This should be a wonderful addition to Cross Street Market..
From everything I'm hearing around the neighborhood, this will have a massive rooftop deck. Charles St. definitely needs the boost right now. There are a ton of vacancies right now, and constant gas line construction and the construction of Wheelhouse probably played a part, and it makes businesses hesitant to lease a storefront until its done. Looks like the cat's out of the bag for the Starbucks at Wheelhouse. Not a super exciting tenant, but one that always draws a crowd, escpically during the day, and this spot will have two sides of glass.
 

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... As much as I'd love to see the arena at Pier V and seeing an iconic building added to Baltimore's image I think logistically that is a horrible spot for it. There is absolutely ZERO transit for that location. The current site already has light rail service and has a metro station a block away.
Shot Tower Metro station is two blocks from Pier V/VI. Light rail is longer, but people walk that distance from parking to stadiums all the time. Would add more life to Pratt Street.

Are there any studies about how many people use rail and/or bus to get to the arena? My sense is, not a ton transit users. If you can afford a ticket to whatever's playing there, you can probably afford to drive or Uber.
 

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As much as I'd love to see the arena at Pier V and seeing an iconic building added to Baltimore's image I think logistically that is a horrible spot for it. There is absolutely ZERO transit for that location. The current site already has light rail service and has a metro station a block away.
since the entire block with the Garmatz courthouse will likely get redeveloped when a new (much needed) court complex is built, why not put a new arena there.

it would be directly across the street from the convention center which will hopefully get a major rebuild in the near future. couldn't have a more central location with good transportation and parking options. would help rejuvenate the IH as well.
 

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I would argue that all 5 of those things would be EFFECTS of a more robust white-collar economy. That's why projects like Cyber Town at PC are super important. We need to accelerate the growth of high-paying jobs, so more high-income individuals live and work in the city. Do that and the rest will mostly take care of itself. That said, we're kind of on that track already. So something like a huge property tax cut or a sharp decrease in crime (by some miracle), might be a major shot in the arm to accelerate the positive economic momentum.
Agreed.
 

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I’m personally looking forward to 2021 when the CIAA conference basketball tournament relocates to Baltimore for 3 years. The event in Charlotte brings out 100,000 visitors to attend, and comparative economic impact as Power 5 conference tournaments...Not bad for a Division II tournament. This influx of tourists during an otherwise slow end of February will be great for the economy.

Similarly, I’d love to see the MEAC (conference of Morgan and Coppin St) make the switch back to Baltimore for the first time since ‘95.

One last comment, UMD, Towson, UMBC, and Loyola should all play at least one game a year at the Baltimore Arena. Early season tournament perhaps??
Great ideas, but I don’t think they’ll become reality until a new arena is built.

Can someone explain why the arena couldn’t be redeveloped at its current site? Could easily make space by taking it to the edge of Hopkins and taking down the garage I’d think. I think an arena would be more successful on Piers 5 and 6 but it’d be better for the city as a whole (and downtown specifically) if it stayed at its current location.
 

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Are there any studies about how many people use rail and/or bus to get to the arena? My sense is, not a ton transit users. If you can afford a ticket to whatever's playing there, you can probably afford to drive or Uber.
DC Metro is usually packed with fans when there’s a Caps or Wizards game. Not to mention, transit isn’t just for those that can’t afford to drive.... Most people that take transit to games take their car to work... there’s so many more benefits to transit than just cost.... Think of how other cities utilize their arena and transit systems to see what could be. Not how Baltimore does it currently....
 

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Looks like a good meeting. Kinda surprised to see 1900 Hanover up there. Is 1800 U/C yet? I didn’t think it was... though it should be soon if not I’d imagine
 

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Looks like a good meeting. Kinda surprised to see 1900 Hanover up there. Is 1800 U/C yet? I didn’t think it was... though it should be soon if not I’d imagine
They all ready graded the site. If I'm not mistaken there starting foundation work either this or next month

Port Covington is starting vertical construction next month, I'm not surprised that Alta is trying to get these thrown up as quickly as possible
 

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Demo is underway at the site of 1800 and 1900 Hanover. The still need to rip up the existing concrete. I was just told by CVP that owns the land and will sell the parcels to Wood Partners that Wood's goal is to have 1900 open once 1800 is leased up, so I think 1900 will be 1.5 to 2 years behind 1800.
 

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In your opinion, what has been more successful at development in Baltimore:

A - Big projects marketed as "iconic" with ribbon cuttings and press releases etc.
B - Continuous pipeline of small projects/rowhouse renovations

The more I think about it, I am in the B camp because all these big apartment conversions and other flashy projects don't seem to be living up to their expectations as far as building foot traffic and supporting businesses. What does seem to be consistently working are efforts in places like Patterson Park where there are blocks and blocks of unbroken rowhomes gradually being renovated and converted. These blocks are crossing into other areas north of the Park and pushing east as well.
I think successful neighborhood revitalizations need a combination of home rehabs and big projects. Sometimes it's like the chicken and the egg, what comes first. Hampden started seeing a lot of home rehabs and then started seeing bigger apartment and townhome projects, but then places like Woodberry and Remington and Greektown seemed to attract some big projects that then led to increased interest in surrounding homes. The best neighborhoods have it all like SoBo and Southeast and Mount Vernon and Hampden.

Pigtown has really struggled to hit home runs and grand slams while knocking out many nice rowhome rehabs, some townhomes, and some nice but not destination level retail. Pigtown could really take off if it could add some luxury apartment buildings, especially ones that you could put neighborhood bars (what Pigtown Really needs) in the bottom of them. Pigtown has some development opportunities but not a ton. The parcels along Main Street that could really become special are not changing hands right now, and the Ostend St corridor could be where serious changes are made, but that likely won't happen till the Casino District really starts picking up the pace. A bold future redevelopment of Mount Clare Junction could really tie all the SoWeBo neighborhoods together as they are fractured geographically and by too many methadone clinics.

It seems Hollins Market is about to hit a nice stride of rowhome rehabs and some bigger projects at the same time, almost entirely because of War Horse.

CenterWest has led to some investment in the surrounding Poppleton rowhomes, but not enough yet to make a huge difference.
 

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