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Bangkok city plan needs a rethink

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Bangkok city plan needs a rethink
A pragmatic and innovative approach from the BMA to improving life in the capital is long overdue

One of the most remarkable things about Bangkok, which celebrated its 225th anniversary earlier this month, is that concerned officials over the past several decades have consistently failed to bring to fruition a comprehensive city-planning initiative. This is even as rapid urbanisation has turned the metropolis into the chaotic anthill that it is today.

The last time the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) tried its hand in a comprehensive manner at a city-planning exercise was in 2004. At that time city officials introduced a new five-year city plan, complete with fantastic-sounding programmes that, had they been successful, would have resulted in the city becoming greener, less congested and more aesthetically pleasing overall.


One of the key features of this plan is its call for zoning and land use to be more strictly controlled. This is a proposal that sounds impressive on paper but carries little weight in practice.


The BMA has not used the city plan to guide the city's physical, economic and social development by well thought out infrastructure investment strategies and the enforcement of rules, as it should have. Instead, the BMA has allowed politically well-connected property developers not to only flout the rules, but also to take the initiative in controlling how and where they exploit their business opportunities.


A common occurrence in many suburbs throughout Bangkok sees property developers start building housing projects in areas that do not have adequate infrastructure, such as water supply or a functioning sewage system, sell individual units, make a profit - and then expect the BMA to chase after them and spend taxpayers' money installing new infrastructure or upgrading what is already there. In a way, the city government is spending public funds to subsidise the business of property developers.


This is a matter of the cart being put before the horse and it leaves the city government in no position to take the lead on how to achieve the objectives of the city plan. The BMA has a yearly budget of about Bt30 billion. But much of that money is spent on the constant upgrading of infrastructure and the maintenance and upkeep of what already exists, with little money left for new projects.


The city plan calls for the restriction of land use in certain inner-Bangkok areas that have become overdeveloped, leading to severe traffic jams and air pollution among other problems. Green areas that used to be reserved as the "city's lungs" and for recreational purposes are dwindling and being replaced by the construction of new roads.


The major weakness of the city plan is the failure to include the five provinces adjacent to Bangkok - Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan, Pathum Thani, Samut Sakhon and Chachoengsao - into a "greater Bangkok city plan".


It has been evident for some time that urbanisation has already spilled over from Bangkok into these provinces.


A large number of Bangkok's 12 million people now commute between their residences in Bangkok's suburbs or these five provinces and their offices in downtown Bangkok.


Bangkok should learn from the experience of other well-run cities around the world. The concept of satellite towns should be explored and introduced in metropolitan Bangkok when and where relevant.


Under the satellite-town concept, now widely applied in many major cities in Germany and other European countries, a city should be divided into many residential areas and suburbs. Each area is made self-sufficient, complete with office/commercial buildings, schools, hospitals, shopping centres and other facilities. This should reduce the necessity of residents having to take long commutes to and from work. It thereby does away with many urban problems related to large numbers of people moving about, including traffic snarls and air pollution, among other problems. It also helps improve people's quality of life.


For a city the size of Bangkok, which has managed to continue to function despite being under very poor administration, it is never too late for the BMA and the central government to rethink, improve and refine the city plan to make sure that it serves its stated purpose of transforming Bangkok into a great place to live and work.


Source: The Nation 29 April 2007

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A few simple things would improve life a lot. Put wires under ground and improve footpaths (being done - slowly). More red lights at major U-turns and many more electronic pedestrian crossings so not all roads are like motorways (is this going to happen?) More BRT/public transport (being built - slowly). More trees! And also, some sois should be made 1-way and the footpath widened; I hate sois where you can't walk at all without risking your life!! :)
+ smog check.
+ clean klong and a more organized water traffic. :2cents:
Personally I think the current BMA administration is moving in the right direction, building the BRT, getting the BTS extension on track, building new parks etc.
I don't think the City needs a huge budget to carry out grand schemes. I think if we spend money wisely on priority projects eg. upgrading transport infrastructure, providing more open space, that will make a different and will get people thinking about the benefit of good planning. :)
^^ And more roads as well. But the BMA is doing that already, building roads that link up other roads, providing motorists with more options. Personally, I wish they would connect our little Sukhumvit sois as well as stop thinking of canals, railroads, etc. as dead ends. Our city's roads need more connectivity, right now we rely on the huge behemoth of a road too much (like Sathorn or Ratchada).
The BMA has not used the city plan to guide the city's physical, economic and social development by well thought out infrastructure investment strategies and the enforcement of rules, as it should have. Instead, the BMA has allowed politically well-connected property developers not to only flout the rules, but also to take the initiative in controlling how and where they exploit their business opportunities.

A common occurrence in many suburbs throughout Bangkok sees property developers start building housing projects in areas that do not have adequate infrastructure, such as water supply or a functioning sewage system, sell individual units, make a profit - and then expect the BMA to chase after them and spend taxpayers' money installing new infrastructure or upgrading what is already there. In a way, the city government is spending public funds to subsidise the business of property developers.
IMO this may be the most imprtant, and also the hardest thing to do. Strictly enforce the rules for everyone. Developers, shop leasers and squatters should not get away with paying bribes and thugs to bend the rules. Easier said than done though.
The last time the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) tried its hand in a comprehensive manner at a city-planning exercise was in 2004. At that time city officials introduced a new five-year city plan
The current five year plan seems to run from 2004 until next year which should mean that there should be some sort of review and public consultation sometime this year before the next five year plan is finalised (assuming that there will be one)?

Does anyone have any info or will this not be addressed the BMA elections? Ideally good intergrated planning should not be subject to electoral cycles but.....
They should focus on cleaning up roads and footpath along with the city plan.

Main pollution problems in bangkok is DUST, Smoke, and Gabage not only the traffic :bash::bash::bash:
I think new roads built in Bangkok are designed for too high speed traffic to be the road in the city area.Such as Pradit Manoontham.

(งูๆปลาๆ จะไหวมั๊ยนี่)
ขออนุญาติใช้ภาษาไทยนะครับ ผมคิดว่าถนนที่สร้างใหม่ ทำกว้างเกินไป ทำให้รถวิ่งเร็วกันมากๆ ซึ่งปกติแล้ว ในเมืองใหญ่ๆระดับนี้ ถนนน่าจะลดบทบาทลง และให้ความสำคัญกับคนเดินเท้าซึ่งเป็นเหมือนสายเลือดที่ส่งไปหารถสาจุเดดียวธารณะมากกว่า สังเกตหลายแยกแล้วครับ ว่ามักจะทำเป็นทางแยกต่างระดับ และมักจะไม่มีทางเท้าช่วงนั้นเลย หรืออาจจะทำเป็นสะพานลอย ซึ่งสร้างความลำบาก ยุ่งยากมากๆครับ อย่างทุกวันนี้ ในถนนประดิษญ์มนูญธรรม ใช้ความเร็วกันเป็นร้อย ข้ามถนนทีหนึ่ง ต้องเดินไปข้ามที่ทางข้ามซึ่งมีอยู่จุดเดียวเท่านั้น และอันตรายเช่นกัน เพราะรถใช้ความเร็วสูงมาก
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This is what Bangkok also needs a rethink and take China's lead:

China bans free plastic shopping bags

The Associated PressPublished: January 9, 2008

BEIJING: China will ban shops from giving out free plastic bags and has called on consumers to use baskets and cloth sacks instead to reduce environmental pollution.

The regulation, effective in June, was decided on about 15 years after shopkeepers started handing out cheap, flimsy plastic bags to customers. "White pollution," a reference to the color of many bags, has cluttered landfills.

"Our country consumes a huge amount of plastic shopping bags each year," said the State Council, China's cabinet. "While plastic shopping bags provide convenience to consumers, this has caused a serious waste of energy and resources and environmental pollution because of excessive usage, inadequate recycling and other reasons."

The regulation is part of Beijing's increased efforts to fight the pollution that has accompanied breakneck economic growth. As factories churn out low-cost products for the world's consumers, they have severely fouled the country's air and water.

Beginning on June 1, all supermarkets, department stores and shops will be prohibited from giving out free plastic bags, the State Council said. Stores must clearly mark the price of plastic shopping bags and are banned from tacking that price onto products.

The production, sale and use of ultra-thin plastic bags - those less than 0.025 millimeters, or 0.00098 inches, thick - were also banned, according to the State Council notice. Dated Dec. 31 and posted on a government Web site Tuesday, it called for "a return to cloth bags and shopping baskets."

It also urged waste collectors to step up recycling efforts to reduce the amount of bags burned or buried. Finance authorities were told to consider tax measures to discourage plastic bag production and sale.

Internationally, legislation to discourage plastic bag use has been passed in parts of South Africa, Ireland and Taiwan, where authorities either tax shoppers who use them or impose fees on companies that distribute them. Bangladesh already bans them, as do at least 30 remote Alaskan villages.

Last year, San Francisco became the first U.S. city to ban petroleum-based plastic grocery bags.

IHT
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And here is a brilliant lifestyle article by IHT that shows why I would love to somehow organize and modernize Bangkok but keep the vibrancy of our street vendors

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/07/travel/06bangkok.php

หากใครคิดว่าพ่อค้าแม่ขายควรจะเลิกไปให้หมด โปรดอ่านบทความข้างบน

ส่วนตัวผมอยากเห็นกรุงเทพฯ สามารถพัฒนาภาพลักษณ์ความสะอาดมีระเบียบเรียบร้อยของเมืองโดยทีคงเสน่ห์และเอกลักษณ์ไว้ ดังเช่นภัตตคารข้างถนนเหล่านี้

บางที ด้วยความคิดสร้างสรรค์ผมว่าเราสามารถเป็นแบบอย่างให้เมืองอื่นๆ ในโลกได้ว่าการผสมผสานความทันสมัยกับวัฒนธรรมอาหารแบบไทยๆ จะเกิดขึ้นได้
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^^ ครับ ไม่อย่างงั้นก็ไร้สาเหตุที่คนจะเที่ยวมาเมืองเรา เราขายความเป็นเรา

พัฒนาไม่ได้หมายถึงต้องเหมือนเมืองต้นแบบ...​ แต่ต้องเอาคุณภาพชีวิตและความสุขของคนมาเป็นหลักมากกว่า
And another IHT article on elephants in the city. Need to include them in the next development plan!

In Bangkok, it's a tough life for elephants http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/13/asia/elephants.php
And another IHT article on elephants in the city. Need to include them in the next development plan!

In Bangkok, it's a tough life for elephants http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/13/asia/elephants.php
Yea! Most plans though are usually too grandiose and far removed from reality....like many of our new year's resolutions :lol:

Maybe I will write up my plans in the deranged hallucinations thread seeing as it will probably be too fantastic to be true.....maybe I should keep a realistic viewpoint
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