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Belinda is now a Liberal Cabinet Minister - what a patriot!

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I can't help but laugh. Harper must be pulling out his hair.

Here's the story so far:

Tory MP Belinda Stronach defects to Liberals; named to cabinet


OTTAWA (CP) - In a stunning political move, high-profile Tory MP Belinda Stronach has defected to the Liberals.


Prime Minister Paul Martin announced the surprise development today, naming Stronach as human resources minister.

The move appears to give the Liberals a better chance of passing a crucial confidence motion scheduled for Thursday.

Two weeks ago, Stronach warned that defeating the federal budget in the confidence vote might be a bad move that could backfire on the Conservatives.

She said critical portions of the budget - particularly the billions promised for municipal infrastructure - were extremely important to individuals in her riding north of Toronto and other constituencies in the area.

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Two interesting things we have to wait for before rendering judgement:

1. What are the details of her move? Surely the problems she sees in the Conservative party must be institutional if she's going to jump ship to the Liberals now. Remember people, she's one of the FOUNDERS of the merged Conservatives. Maybe she feels that in hindsight it was a mistake and an Alliance takeover (just a guess)?

2. What is Harper going to say/do now that the voice of moderation in the party that Canadians (and specifically Ontarians) trusted is now gone.
 

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If there is an election in the near future, I guarantee that Ontario will go Liberal. Belinda made quite the speech about why she made the change.

The Conservatives need to dump Harper.
 

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I understand that Harper will be on TV at 11:40 am eastern.
 

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Actually it's now up to the Independants. The Liberals need at least 2 out of 3 of them to vote with the Government, and that would result in a tie. However, in a tie, then the Speaker can vote - and he is a Liberal.
 

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Harper is now on TV claiming that Belinda jumped ship because it didn't look to her that she would ever become the leader of the Conservatives, and all this is bad for Federalism in Quebec - like he gives a shit.

Too bad the Conservatives don't have the brains to a choose a leader who at least appears to be sincere on TV. This guy comes across as nothing more than a mealy-mouthed, lying politician.
 

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Harper is now on TV claiming that Belinda jumped ship because it didn't look to her that she would ever become the leader of the Conservatives, and all this is bad for Federalism in Quebec - like he gives a shit.
He brought Quebec into an unrelated issue AGAIN?!? Looks like Harper is using Bush-style tactics. Although instead of saying everything the other side does is a blow against freedom, in his case he says it's a blow agains federalism and Quebec. However, I think most Canadians are able to see through this ploy.
 

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However, I think most Canadians are able to see through this ploy.
It would be nice to think so, but then, Carolyn Parrish keeps winning elections, so it's not a safe assumption by any means...
 

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Sweet, now the Liberals have two hotties on their side (Belinda & that one out in Mississauga).
 

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Yeah! :banana::pepper:

This should force the Conservatives to rethink their party lines and boot Harper far far away... then Belinda can defect back to the Conservatives and save the party's fortunes. A bit idealistic, but could happen.
 

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It would be nice to think so, but then, Carolyn Parrish keeps winning elections, so it's not a safe assumption by any means...
Ploys imply lies. Carolyn Parish doesn't do that. She speaks what on her mind and that's why she got kicked out of the Liberal party.

But anyways,

Conservatives = owned
Stephen Harper = owned

At the press conference, Stephen Harper was saying he saw this coming and he is glad Belinda is gone, but I don't believe it of course.
 

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Carolyn Parish doesn't do that. She speaks what on her mind and that's why she got kicked out of the Liberal party.
If speaking her mind is against the rules of Liberal Party, wouldn't that imply that the Liberal Party instead endorses duplicity?
 

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If speaking her mind is against the rules of Liberal Party, wouldn't that imply that the Liberal Party instead endorses duplicity?
We do it because we must please our American overlords, else they'll send their tanks to crush our tin-can army. :D
 

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Harper is now on TV claiming that Belinda jumped ship because it didn't look to her that she would ever become the leader of the Conservatives, and all this is bad for Federalism in Quebec - like he gives a shit.

Too bad the Conservatives don't have the brains to a choose a leader who at least appears to be sincere on TV. This guy comes across as nothing more than a mealy-mouthed, lying politician.

Ouch, that's going to hurt him. Even if it were obvious and true (which nobody can know), you DON'T say negative things like that when you lose something so obviously important. Now he looks like he doesn't care to lose a moderate element of his party.
 

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We do it because we must please our American overlords, else they'll send their tanks to crush our tin-can army. :D
All that I can say for Parrish is that she makes even Tom DeLay look good by comparison. No small feat, IMHO!
 

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you heard it here first folks....

my prediction:

Paul Martin will resign in november when the Gomery inquiry reveals his involvment. The Liberals will elect Belinda Stronach as the leader of thier party....


Belinda Stronach, 22nd Prime Minister of Canada
2006-????


what a fox!

from the CBC

"She also said Conservative Leader Stephen Harper is not sensitive to the needs of all parts of the country, and is jeopardizing national unity by allying himself with the Bloc Québécois.

"The country must come first," she said.

Stronach said that someday, the Conservatives will grow and strengthen to become a worthy challenger to the Liberals. In the meantime, she thinks her place is with a party that is more responsive to the needs of cities, women and young people. "


ouch!
 
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