Has there been any update on the depot for the Red Line/Bannerghatta Road line?
Airport line is not a priority, line reaching /linking tech parks is also not a priority over other trunk lines, especially since these IT areas have proved to be much more car dependent than public transport dependent.^considering it as an airport line and it reaching/linking all the tech parks I assumed ORR line as the most important wrt impact it has on vehicular traffic until Carmalaram-Hudson-Hebbal line comes up.
Why is ORR the most important line? Just stop the metro trains that are running now on purple & green lines & you will realize to which areas it is most important - like congested old areas of City mkt, Chikpet, Majestic etc..
At least, ORR is very wide but if cars usurp most of the space, its their choice to live in jams & atrocious traffic. Wonder how many will actually shift to metro when it gets built on ORR.
ORR line is important only to those that will shift to metro when it opens, not for car riders that hope metro will free up roads for them. And probably most car riders will not shift to metro anyways.
And BTW, traffic on Tumkur road & Mysore road is equally horrible, if not worse than ORR. The only difference is that the proportion of cars is smaller. So, metro on those roads is far more important than metro on ORR since people have demonstrated for years that they will use metro (& have been using buses from long back). This is suspect for ORR, judging by the number of empty buses & huge number of private vehicles on ORR.
I know this doesn't sound very encouraging to those that are looking forward to using ORR metro, but its a point to ponder over.
____________________________________________________________Bangalore Metro Rail Corporation Ltd. (BMRCL) on Monday said religious places are acquired for the Metro project only when it inevitable.
“For Phase 2 work, 33 religious places — 30 temples, two churches and one mosque — were acquired,” said BMRCL senior manager (public relations) TL Ravi Prakash.
Responding to protests staged by the All Saints Church for nearly 300 days, BMRCL said there won’t be any damage to the church due to construction activities.
“Metro alignment on Hosur Road is 36m away from the All Saints Church building and does not pass below it. An open area of 1,140 sqm with a few trees in front of the church building is needed for construction of the underground Metro station,” he said.
He said area required in vacant land on a temporary basis for a period of three years and number of trees to be cleared only 26. "There will not be any damage to church structure by Metro construction activities. One of such work was that of Cubbon park underground Metro station which was constructed at a distance of just 3m from more than 100 years old CTO building without causing any damage" the release adds adds.
The officials, however, have not been successful in acquiring a portion of All Saints Church as the members of parish approached European Investment Bank, which is a major financier for the Metro project, for mediation. While the members of the church are against parting with even an inch of the century-old church premises, the BMRCL has maintained that it will not cause much damage to the church.
The approach to the church from Hosur Road will remain intact during the Metro construction. The open area required for Metro construction is small compared to the total area of the church premises. Construction will be at least 17 metres away from the church building. There will be space in front of the church for day-to-day activities,” officials said. 26 trees will be cleared for Metro construction.
Then what's the point of metro sir, let everyone use car. Metro should replace cars instead shouldn't replace buses.Airport line is not a priority, line reaching /linking tech parks is also not a priority over other trunk lines, especially since these IT areas have proved to be much more car dependent than public transport dependent.
And the impact ORR line has on vehicular traffic may be surprisingly minimal.
Carmelaram-Hudson-Hebbal line may never come up either.
You, employees in your office & your friends may have the complaint "I want AC and traffic jam immune mode of transport that saves time even if I have to stand throughout the journey" & be happy to use metro when it comes up but it is not a generalization for all groups of commuters, as is evident by the huge split in private motor vehicles, especially single occupant cars on ORR.I don't get the "empty buses" trope being repeated again and again, when I have been traversing Marathalli-SB for 4 years now, and at peak times, it is difficult to even get inside AC buses (or non-ac), forget about seats.
Infact, most employees in my office, and so are my friends would be more than happy to shift to Metro - a lot of them use motorbikes (unsafe) or cars (because AC because the entire stretch is very dusty). The biggest complaint is not "I want my car because I bought it" but "I want AC and traffic jam immune mode of transport that saves time even if I have to stand throughout the journey". And most of them (including me) would pay for than BMTC fares to avail Metro happily.
Metro is primarily for those that will use it in preference to private vehicles most times, like ak_pradhan & his fellow employees & friends, & to take care of future commuter capacity enhancement requirements. It may not free up much street space as freed up street space always gets filled up quickly due to the convenience of point to point commute offered by private transport.Then what's the point of metro sir, let everyone use car. Metro should replace cars instead shouldn't replace buses.
Private cars or cabs are mostly used for tech parks, airport and malls only.
You're putting down a 'generalisation' seen first hand with your own generalisation. Makes no sense.You, employees in your office & your friends may have the complaint "I want AC and traffic jam immune mode of transport that saves time even if I have to stand throughout the journey" & be happy to use metro when it comes up but it is not a generalization for all groups of commuters, as is evident by the huge split in private motor vehicles, especially single occupant cars on ORR.
Lets wait & see how much of the road traffic disappears when metro becomes operational. I'd be happy if it does come down but I have a feeling traffic jams at Silkboard /ORR will continue.
My generalization is based on visible evidence as also the fact that people used to cars are generally very reluctant to get on to public transport, worldwide - Indian cities are no exception. In fact Bangalore may be one of the sole exceptions where some (not all) may be using private vehicles because they are forced to do so because of lack of proper public transport. This lot will of course get on to the metro & discard private vehicles for daily commutes (like ak_pradhan & party), but every group isn't like ak_pradhan's.You're putting down a 'generalisation' seen first hand with your own generalisation. Makes no sense.
Sure, a lot of the people living and working in that area might be private commuters that think they're too good for public transport. But there are a lot of people that already do use public transport, or want to but face inconveniences. It's an absolutely enormous area with an enormous number of people living and working there, and most of them are regular people. You're generalising the many with the bourgeois-minded few. I too have travelled in buses over there that are crush loaded, and faaar from empty.
Traffic jams haven't decreased by much in any place that has metro. With the rate that the city is growing, space on the streets just keeps drawing more vehicles. The size of the metro network at this stage is like reducing water that's pouring into an already over flowing bucket.
I think its both ways - chauvinism from outsiders is with absurd arguments like "ORR metro is top priority for city", "airport metro most important", also like what you stated above - "outsiders *combined* pay more property taxes", "commercial spaces in the *outsiders'* emerging areas are what are mostly responsible for contributing substantially to the economic activity of the city and country)" etc etc.. So the so-called chauvinism is from both sides, in a city that had almost no such chauvinism in the past.... before outsiders flooded the city.Unfortunately I have seen quite a few posts here (and even more so in the "Blore Discussions" thread) where a *divide* in society has been supported by some, a divide between *outsiders* and *insiders*. One can call it chauvinistic thinking, quite the hallmark of a Tier 2 town, not a Tier 1 town. Every comparable city has some amount of chauvinistic thinking by some section of society, and I guess Blore also has it (probably to a slightly lesser extent, to Blore's credit).
The thinking goes like this:
- Insiders deserve to get all the benefit bcoz they were the early settlers.
- Outsiders are 2nd class citizens, how dare they ask for any benefit like broad roads, footpaths, water supply, metro, parks, etc! (despite the fact that outsiders *combined* pay more property taxes bcoz they're mostly ghetto'ed in the *emerging* areas which have multi-storeyed apts and hence higher population per sq km, and despite the fact that commercial spaces in the *outsiders'* emerging areas are what are mostly responsible for contributing substantially to the economic activity of the city and country)
- If an outsider points out some scope for improvement, he is faced with the query: "Then who told you to come here? Go back to where you came from."
I guess thats what distinguishes Blore from a truly cosmopolitan city. But as I said, no hard feelings, it is still a better place to live than many other comparable cities in respect of this "extent of chauvinism".
Agree, priority lines for phase-3 IMO are:If I get more responses, I plan to publish it in the newspaper - Bangalore Mirror.