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HE took his time. But as our dams drain, our Minister for No Water has at last admitted our politicians didn't plan ahead.

"We're not doing enough for the long-term," Acting Premier John Thwaites confessed this week to the TV cameras.

Sure got that right, my waterless friend.

Only it's a bit late for you to finally wake up to a crisis we've alerted you to for years.

How late? Melbourne's dams are already at 40-year lows and some time next week - Wednesday, I'd say -- they'll drop to just 29.3 per cent capacity.

That's officially the trigger for stage 4 restrictions.

By comparison, our dams a year ago were half full. At this rate, we won't have water for our city of 3.5 million people by the end of next year. Unless, of course, it rains - and rains hard.

And it gets worse: at least three of the four rescue projects the Bracks Government is now frantically assessing can't be built in time to save us if the rains fail again.

Call that a water policy for a major world city? To just pray for a cloudburst?

"Not doing enough for the long-term" hardly describes how badly Thwaites and his cronies have bungled.

But, wait . . . sorry, I've misread my notes.

Thwaites was in fact not taking responsibility for doing zip for so long as Melbourne inexorably ran dry. ("Zip", because I of course exclude the $7000 of Bracks Government money given to farmers' wives in Ouyen four years ago to dance naked for rain.)

No, it was actually the Howard Government he attacked for not planning ahead. As for his own performance, he has not one "sorry" to say.

In fact, you'd think Thwaites still doesn't get it.

Consider: even now, with the stage 4 trigger about to be pulled, Thwaites will wait until August before enforcing new restrictions, because it might rain. Or not.

Consider: even as late as yesterday, Treasurer John Brumby was leisurely touring a desalination plant in Kuwait to see what kind of thing his Government might have built years ago.

Consider: even in his latest Budget, just last month, Brumby announced no water project big enough to save Melbourne - and in fact spent less on water than he did last year.

Consider: even as late as last month, when it was clear we had to save every spare drop of drinking water, Thwaites' department approved a huge release of irrigation water from our biggest dam, the Thomson.

That's right: more than four billion litres of drinking water were sent down the Thomson River so dairy cows could get a drink and a feed of juiced-up grass.

How big was that release, as calculated by Geoff Crapper, for years the hydrology and flood warning engineer at Melbourne Water? About as much as Melburnians painfully saved last month through water restrictions.

What are Thwaite's priorities? He gives water to cows, taking it from humans who may soon have none.

And he gives water to the fish, too -- because even in what Thwaites claims is the worst drought in a century, he still sends drinking water from dams down rivers that would normally run dry.

Spare us. It's enough to make Ross Young, boss of the Water Services Association of Australia, representing our normally too-scared-to-squeak water authorities, say these "environmental flows" are, ahem, unwise.

"In a drought this severe, you need to look at every part of your system to ensure cities have reliable supplies," he said last week.

Indeed, Young even dared add: "There's an argument they could have done a lot more . . . a lot earlier."

God, yes. How did we end up like this, when even Blind Freddy could see a growing city would soon need more water, especially with Victoria's rainfall back down to the average of the first and drier half of last century?

Actually, I'm more dumb than blind and my name's not really Freddy, but here is some of what even I said when we still had time:

June, 2001: "We're in strife, with our dams now less than half full and the so-called greenhouse effect allegedly threatening to dry up the already scanty rain."

June 2003: "We face a water crisis, even if this drought does break and we aren't witnessing a climate change . . ."

August 2003: "We're running out of water."

Even the experts tried to warn this Government.

In 2003, for instance, Monash University's Centre for Dynamical Meteorology and Oceanography said low winter rainfalls could be back to stay, and "our cities (may) start to run out of water".

A deadline was put on that by the Government's own Water Resources Strategy committee back in 2002, when it warned we faced severe shortages by 2013 at the very latest.

But for too long, Thwaites and his green-blinded colleagues refused to do anything, and then contented themselves with simply telling us to make do with less.

"Use less." It takes a genius to think up that strategy for coping with a shortage.

In fact, rather than find new water sources, the Government drained the ones we had. Extra "environmental flows" of dam water were sent down the Snowy, Murray, Yarra and Thomson.

And most stupid of all, the Government turned the dam reservation on Gippsland's Mitchell River into a national park to stop it from ever being used for Melbourne's drinking water.

Let me tell you how good the Mitchell could be for a city's water supply.

River flow charts show a dam there would fill more than three times faster, on average, than our Thomson Dam, which holds 60 per cent of Melbourne's water.

Or put it this way: The Mitchell River flowed so fast in 1974 it could have filled the Thomson Dam twice.

(I'd tell you about the Mitchell's flows today, but Thwaites' department has now taken that data off its water resources website.)

Even better, a Mitchell dam could be built for not much more than $1 billion, says Thwaites himself - cheaper by far than any of the alternatives he's at last considering instead.

This is the dam that could have saved us today and will still need to be built tomorrow to guarantee water to the one million extra people expected to move to Melbourne within 20 years.

But dams take as much as a decade to approve, build and fill, and right now the dam-phobic Government is trying to choose between four other big-money schemes just to get us past the next few years of crisis.

There's Thwaite's dream of pumping recycled sewage water to the water-gobbling power stations in the Latrobe Valley to free up drinking water for Melbourne. Sound nice? Forget it.

This would cost at least $2.3 billion to build, millions in power bills to keep running and years to finish.

More pipes would be needed than we'd lay to bring the Mitchell's water to Melbourne.

Then there's a possible desalination plant, like the one Brumby stared at yesterday. But as the Premier conceded last year: "The energy consumption is enormous, the intrusion on the community is enormous and, of course, it's extraordinarily expensive."

I T says a lot about the Government's fluster that it's now thinking of building what it once dismissed.

And that leaves us with its last option -- a $2 billion pipeline to divert farmers' water from the Goulburn River to Melbourne.

Brumby loves this and probably for one urgent reason. It's the only thing this Government can build fast enough to save us from running dry if it doesn't rain.

This is not policy. It is panic. Time to sack Thwaites. Time to say yes to the Mitchell dam.

And past time to build a pipeline -- anything -- to give Melbourne more water in the meantime. Before the rains fail and it's too late.






^^ The only state that has no emergency plan!
 

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I say bring back Kennett. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if he were still premier we would have a desal plant and other stuff to set us up for the future.

This government? We might as well pack our bags and move to Darwin! How can they possibly rely on the rains which are more likely not to come than come to solve our problem?
 

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Let's replace Steve Bracks with Andy Bolt. All of our problems will be solved!
Andrew Bolt is what this state needs. Not the incompetent "governance" of Steve "brackswards" Bracks and is do-nothing cronies. If Andrew Bolt were in power I guarantee that we'd be in a much better situation and things would get done.



I say bring back Kennett. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if he were still premier we would have a desal plant and other stuff to set us up for the future.
Kennet was one of the best premiers in the history of Vic. He gave us vital infrastructure - where would we be without Citylink? Plus at the same time he rescued the state from a $33 billion debt in just 4 years which was left by none-other than the previous Labor shitheads.


This government? We might as well pack our bags and move to Darwin! How can they possibly rely on the rains which are more likely not to come than come to solve our problem?
Steve Brackswards: "Oh Allah Buddah please let it rain"

John "tosspot with no water" Thwaites: "what he said..."

 

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Oh my god.

You people believe the shit Andrew Bolt rants on about?

For those of you not from here, Andrew Bolt's columns are only read by the sort of people who watch TT and ACA. I'd take what he says as seriously as some of the posts from M3_SuperthunderheadHornet or Qantas743.

By the way, it has been forecast (by experts, not the government) that El Nino has gone and we should be expecting a wetter than usual winter. Besides, 30% is still a lot, compared to people in other parts of Victoria, or South East Queensland. The people who agreed with the original post probably also believed the opposition when they said "OMG WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF WATERS IN 60 DAYS".
 

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Andrew Bolt is what this state needs. Not the incompetent "governance" of Steve "brackswards" Bracks and is do-nothing cronies. If Andrew Bolt were in power I guarantee that we'd be in a much better situation and things would get done.
Andy Bolt would have built hundreds of damns right now! We'd be praying to Allah/God/Made up Deity for rain which is much much better than what we're doing right now with Bracksward.

Kennet was one of the best premiers in the history of Vic. He gave us vital infrastructure - where would we be without Citylink?
Agreed. Unlike Bracks, he didn't waste the states money on useless things like schools or hospitals and instead promoted major events like the Grand Prix. Where would we be without the Crown Casino? Kennett bestest premier evah!


Plus at the same time he rescued the state from a $33 billion debt in just 4 years which was left by none-other than the previous Labor shitheads.
It takes so much courage to be a fiscal conservative. You have to cut spending AND sell off the people's jails, transport network, electricity provider. The Labor shitheads just didn't have the balls to attempt such amazing reform.


M3_SoutheastMelb, how can someone like you be so amazingly cute but so diluted at the same time?
 

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Oh my god.

You people believe the shit Andrew Bolt rants on about?

For those of you not from here, Andrew Bolt's columns are only read by the sort of people who watch TT and ACA. I'd take what he says as seriously as some of the posts from M3_SuperthunderheadHornet or Qantas743.

By the way, it has been forecast (by experts, not the government) that El Nino has gone and we should be expecting a wetter than usual winter. Besides, 30% is still a lot, compared to people in other parts of Victoria, or South East Queensland. The people who agreed with the original post probably also believed the opposition when they said "OMG WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF WATERS IN 60 DAYS".
anyone who thinks 30% in the dams is "alot" is retarded. Like you and your **** buddy Steve Bracksward. The thing is, ANdrew Bolt doesn't talk shit, he tells it as it is. Simple. If you want shit, go to our legendary premier. Remember the pre-election pledge of No tolls on Eastlink? Forgot about that already have ya? Then there's the countless budget blowouts i.e. the "Farce" Train.
 

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Andy Bolt would have built hundreds of damns right now! We'd be praying to Allah/God/Made up Deity for rain which is much much better than what we're doing right now with Bracksward.

Agreed. Unlike Bracks, he didn't waste the states money on useless things like schools or hospitals and instead promoted major events like the Grand Prix. Where would we be without the Crown Casino? Kennett bestest premier evah!

It takes so much courage to be a fiscal conservative. You have to cut spending AND sell off the people's jails, transport network, electricity provider. The Labor shitheads just didn't have the balls to attempt such amazing reform.

M3_SoutheastMelb, how can someone like you be so amazingly cute but so diluted at the same time?

you're the one deluded.
 

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Somebody should sack the Steve Bracks Labor government. Seriously.
They had their chance in Nov last year Mate and voted the Govt back with an massive majority. I like it how all the whingeing Liberal supporters come out of the wood work scaremongering and blaming the Bracks Govt for everything that goes wrong! I didnt see the saviour Jeff Kennett building any new dams when he had a chance:bash: .
If it dosent rain it wont make any difference if we have ten shiny new dams atm we have plenty of capacity if the normal rains come and btw a lot of forecasters are predicting that we will get better than average rains later in the year due to the El Nina effect happening..
 

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They had their chance in Nov last year Mate and voted the Govt back with an massive majority. I like it how all the whingeing Liberal supporters come out of the wood work scaremongering and blaming the Bracks Govt for everything that goes wrong! I didnt see the saviour Jeff Kennett building any new dams when he had a chance:bash: .
If it dosent rain it wont make any difference if we have ten shiny new dams atm we have plenty of capacity if the normal rains come and btw a lot of forecasters are predicting that we will get better than average rains later in the year due to the El Nina effect happening..
99% of water needed to fill the dams doesn't come from the rains, but from the run-off on the ground. The ground atm is so dry that the above experts said that it will take HUNDREDS of millimeters to cause run-off again. It can rain for half a week non-stop and you wouldn't see much difference.
 

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you're the one deluded.
Oh well. You're still cute. :)

I like it how all the whingeing Liberal supporters come out of the wood work scaremongering and blaming the Bracks Govt for everything that goes wrong!
Who cares? I'm still hate Bracksward for not building that bridge from Geelong to Frankston across the bay. Andy Bolt sez it's vitally needed infrastructure. Seriously, Andrew Bolt is like the right-wing version of latte lefty Tracy Hutchinson from the Saturday Age. Both are annoyingly hilarious to read because they're utter morons.
 

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WA dams have been at 20-25% in winter for years. Find a solution and fix it, god it's pathetic. Who the **** is charge over there does the state government have any inderpendance?
 
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