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Big Rustbelt cities vs. Small/midsized Sunbelt cities

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Which do you see poised to perform better in the years to come: big Rustbelt cities (e.g., Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh) or small/midsized Sunbelt cities (e.g., Raleigh, Huntsville, Jacksonville), and why?

P.S.--I'm considering metro/urbanized area populations when I speak of size.
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Atlanta's geography is almost identical to Greenville and Chattanooga. It's not exactly the same, but it's location in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains is very similar to Greenville's location, and Chattanooga is only 1.5 hours away, so how different could they possibly be? It's just a bit further into the mountains than Atlanta is...but Atlanta's rolling hills and mountains are abundant...
I just think he meant that Atlanta really isn't as geographically defined as some other cities out there, even some not too far away (e.g., Chattanooga, Greenville, Augusta). As much as I love Atlanta, I must admit that the city's immediate geographical setting is pretty boring.
Like I said, Atlanta does not have the big natural landmark like an OCEAN, RIVER, GREAT LAKE, MOUNTAINS. That does not take away from the city whatsoever, but it does make a difference to some people if they want to live there. The trees, hills, and gorges give atlanta a beautiful landscape, but not a natural landmark.
Oh and btw, these are mountains:

Thank you for the geography lesson, I've never seen a mountain before...the Appalachians aren't mountains??? There are two huge lakes, Allatoona and Lanier, and the Chattahoochee River runs through Atlanta. But I think you're just wanting an arguement...so whatever you want to say, of course. It's a subjective matter, and I think Atlanta does have as much a natural landmark in Stone Mountain as anywhere else. What other city has a huge piece of exposed granite sticking out of the Earth?

Just a side note - a sandpile can be considered a natural landmark.
Atlanta is IN the mountains...the city has one of the highest elevations of any major city in the U.S. Look it up.
Like I said, Atlanta does not have the big natural landmark like an OCEAN, RIVER, GREAT LAKE, MOUNTAINS. That does not take away from the city whatsoever, but it does make a difference to some people if they want to live there. The trees, hills, and gorges give atlanta a beautiful landscape, but not a natural landmark.
I see that you don't ever stop. I'm getting the feeling that you just love to hear your city's name mentioned, good or bad. If something's not about Atlanta, it's not worth talking about, and if someone gets something incorrect about it, that's even better! Give all of us a break, already.
Let's see if there is a moderator in this forum...you need to stop with the personal attacks.
You are quite far off base...YOU brought up Atlanta, not me. I questioned your judgement about a city you've never visited and obviously don't have any knowledge about, and it's been on ever since. You are the problem, not me - anybody can read through the posts and figure that out.
I see that you don't ever stop. I'm getting the feeling that you just love to hear your city's name mentioned, good or bad. If something's not about Atlanta, it's not worth talking about, and if someone gets something incorrect about it, that's even better! Give all of us a break, already.
I can't.
You are quite far off base...YOU brought up Atlanta, not me. I questioned your judgement about a city you've never visited and obviously don't have any knowledge about, and it's been on ever since. You are the problem, not me - anybody can read through the posts and figure that out.
Well, I wouldn't expect anybody to want to go through that torture...but it could be done.
Downtown is not near stone mountain, or visible appalachians mountains. Yes, we have hills and valleys, but not 9,000 feet peaks within viewing distance. Allatoon and Lanier do not equal great lakes or an ocean. Atlanta is a basically a land-locked city. This still does not inhibit it from a top transportation hub in the country.
Thank you for the geography lesson, I've never seen a mountain before...the Appalachians aren't mountains??? There are two huge lakes, Allatoona and Lanier, and the Chattahoochee River runs through Atlanta. But I think you're just wanting an arguement...so whatever you want to say, of course. It's a subjective matter, and I think Atlanta does have as much a natural landmark in Stone Mountain as anywhere else. What other city has a huge piece of exposed granite sticking out of the Earth?

Just a side note - a sandpile can be considered a natural landmark.
Sorry for the 'natural landmark', as it should have been national/signifigant natural landmark.
That's basically what I was getting at. And yes, that Chattahoochee runs through Atlanta, but one would be very hard pressed to argue that it prominently figures into the cityscape.

At any rate, enough about Atlanta. Anyone else have any thoughts on the original question that only one forumer seems to have a problem with (and apparently has gotten a dose of his own medicine, but I digress)?
Downtown is not near stone mountain, or visible appalachians mountains. Yes, we have hills and valleys, but not 9,000 feet peaks within viewing distance. Allatoon and Lanier do not equal great lakes or an ocean. Atlanta is a basically a land-locked city.
Actually, I've read the whole thread, and you just seem to be on the prowl to observe any possible slight of Atlanta and complain, even when you are just misinterpreting what people say.
Well, I wouldn't expect anybody to want to go through that torture...but it could be done.
How did you know? You are very perceptive...it's strange how some people can only see one side of an issue, but it makes no difference to me. I haven't continued this fascinating discussion on my own, ya know...two people keep coming back with shit and I respond.
Actually, I've read the whole thread, and you just seem to be on the prowl to observe any possible slight of Atlanta and complain, even when you are just misinterpreting what people say.
The mountains are visible, sorry to tell you...and it's only your opinion about how great the lakes are. Or are you referring to the Great Lakes? I wouldn't think so, since most cities aren't near those...
Downtown is not near stone mountain, or visible appalachians mountains. Yes, we have hills and valleys, but not 9,000 feet peaks within viewing distance. Allatoon and Lanier do not equal great lakes or an ocean. Atlanta is a basically a land-locked city. This still does not inhibit it from a top transportation hub in the country.
do you mean to say cities are not near the great lakes? If thats true: chicago, milwaukee, cleveland, toledo, toronto, rochester, buffalo...need I say more?

Im in atlanta right now...I do not see mountains. Im sticking with my opinion.
I wouldn't think so, since most cities aren't near those...
I think allatoon and lanier (reservoirs?) are beautiful, but too far from downtown for me
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