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Another condo tower could spring up in downtown area

Suddenly, Downtown Crossing is becoming high-rise central.

A New York-based developer is preparing to file plans with the city for a tall condominium and apartment tower at the corner of Washington and Bromfield streets, the same intersection where the 60-story Millennium Tower is now under construction.

Representatives of Midwood Investment and Development, which has owned several buildings on the busy corner since the mid-2000s, declined to comment. But people familiar with the project said it aims to go public early next year with plans for a “very tall” residential building on the site, which today is street-level retail with older office space above.

Specifics such as exact height, unit cost, budget, and community benefits are being hashed out. Any large building there would be subject to approval by the Boston Redevelopment Authority. BRA staff said Midwood had briefed them on the project but that no precise details had been finalized. The project was first reported Sunday by Banker & Tradesman.

Midwood initially proposed a 28-story condo tower there in 2008 before shelving the plans during the recession. The new proposal comes as Millennium Tower has sold 90 percent of its roughly 450 units, demonstrating a market for high-end residences in the heart of Downtown Crossing.

 

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isn't this the 3rd high-rise going up in Downtown Boston, Millennium Tower, the other tall one and now this one. It's insane to think that the Boston luxury market is doing so great, 90 percent o Millennium tower sold is an impressive feat, considering its not even open. WTC has only occupied about 80%
 

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isn't this the 3rd high-rise going up in Downtown Boston, Millennium Tower, the other tall one and now this one. It's insane to think that the Boston luxury market is doing so great, 90 percent o Millennium tower sold is an impressive feat, considering its not even open. WTC has only occupied about 80%
Well one is residential and the other is an office tower. The office leasing market has yet to fully recover from 2008.
 

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I'm sure, though, that the residential market would absorb a lot of luxury (and non-luxury) units before becoming anything like saturated. Boston is the San Francisco of the East, after all--lots of tech and education, port facilities, mediocre (at best) transit, and NIMBY power that's more or less unrivaled in the rest of the country which has suppressed real estate development to the detriment of all the people who would otherwise live there.

Or is San Francisco the Boston of the West? Eh, whatever.
 

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The expectation is that this will be over 200m/656'. 1 Dalton at the Christian Science Center is set to rise in Q2 (broke ground a full year ago) and will be approximately 230m/755'. The Copley Place Tower is currently doing prep work in the Mass Pike tunnel, and will be 190m/626'.

There is expected to be a Pru to Hancock sized tower built this cycle at the Winthrop Square parking garage. (230-240m/750'-790' range)

North Station will have 2 towers, an office and a residential, both in the 150m range, and the podium is underway.

Congress St Garage will have 2 main towers (and a few smaller buildings), with the shorter residential expected to break ground this year at 166m/547'. The taller one is a gorgeous Pelli designed office tower, looking like around 189m/620' to the top.

There are also a handful of other projects in the 100m-150m range, including The Pierce which is approximately 111m/365', and will rise this year right near Fenway. (by far the tallest building in the area) There is no shortage of projects under 100m, particularly in the Seaport but also in Cambridge and around Huntington/Longwood (Northeastern and other colleges).

Many more projects are in the pipeline, some substantial, but if the bottom doesn't drop out again like in 2009 the above listed are the "sure things" we have going here for the next 3-4 years. If all goes to plan, this will wind up being the biggest highrise boom in Boston's history.

Currently the topped off Millennium Tower (209m/685') and topping off Nashua Street Residences by North Station/The Garden (137m/449') are already making major impacts on the skyline. In a few years Boston will feel like a totally different, much larger city than it ever has before. It's amazing what a few new peaks can do.
 

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The expectation is that this will be over 200m/656'. 1 Dalton at the Christian Science Center is set to rise in Q2 (broke ground a full year ago) and will be approximately 230m/755'. The Copley Place Tower is currently doing prep work in the Mass Pike tunnel, and will be 190m/626'.

There is expected to be a Pru to Hancock sized tower built this cycle at the Winthrop Square parking garage. (230-240m/750'-790' range)

North Station will have 2 towers, an office and a residential, both in the 150m range, and the podium is underway.

Congress St Garage will have 2 main towers (and a few smaller buildings), with the shorter residential expected to break ground this year at 166m/547'. The taller one is a gorgeous Pelli designed office tower, looking like around 189m/620' to the top.

There are also a handful of other projects in the 100m-150m range, including The Pierce which is approximately 111m/365', and will rise this year right near Fenway. (by far the tallest building in the area) There is no shortage of projects under 100m, particularly in the Seaport but also in Cambridge and around Huntington/Longwood (Northeastern and other colleges).

Many more projects are in the pipeline, some substantial, but if the bottom doesn't drop out again like in 2009 the above listed are the "sure things" we have going here for the next 3-4 years. If all goes to plan, this will wind up being the biggest highrise boom in Boston's history.

Currently the topped off Millennium Tower (209m/685') and topping off Nashua Street Residences by North Station/The Garden (137m/449') are already making major impacts on the skyline. In a few years Boston will feel like a totally different, much larger city than it ever has before. It's amazing what a few new peaks can do.
Yeah this one could be a real corker!

 

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trying to improve the 180-300' list.

news...

1 Bromfield Street/Midwood Investment proposals submitted 59 stories 735'!!
Back Bay Station Redevelopment/Boston Properties' proposals submitted!
111 Federal St/Winthrop Sq moving forward. BRA will select winning development team by June... permitting by end of the year.
South Station Tower possible construction ~early 2017.
40 Trinity getting closer to startup, and a 4th ~500’ tower in the West End near TD garden.
mass.gov is pushing the sale of 5.5 acre Southbay DOT/Kneeland Street sitel,


proposed;

1. 1 Bromfield Street/Midwood Investment 59 stories 735' roof (diagonally across from Millenium Tower.

2. Back Bay Station tower #1 34 stories ~428' roof

3. Back Bay Parcel 15 #1/Weiner Ventures 31 stories 400' roof

4. Back Bay Station tower #2 24 stories ~396' top.

5. 45 Worthington/Equity Residential 35 stories ~387' loi

6. Tremont Crossing Tower #1 31 stories 365' top

7. 51 High Street 29 stories ~355'

8. Back Bay Station tower #3 26 stories ~336'

9. 15 Harrison Avenue/Drago and Toscano/Chinatown hotel 26 stories ~336'

10. Tremont Crossing Tower #2 29 stories ~336'.

11. Back Bay Station #3 28 stories ~336'

12 Back Bay Parcel 15 #2/Weiner Ventures 25 stories ~332'

13. Dudley Sqare mixed use residential tower 25 stories ~328'

14. 436 Atlantic Ave/J Hook Lobster tower 24 stories 305'.

15. 533 Washington St/Canvas (high a/r thin condo tower) 30 stories 303'.

16. Tremont Tower 24 stories #3 280'.

17. Landmark Development tower Brighton 278 feet ??


approved, +/- .gov/on schedule, construction, topped, +/- cladding or completed;

1. 1 Dalton Street/Four Seasons 61 stories 755' (construction)

2. 111 Federal Street/Winthrop Garage 725-735' roof +.gov BRA wants 'iconic tower.'
will select winning development team by June... Permitting by end of the year.

3. Millennium Tower 60 stories 685' tip (cladding)

4. South Station Tower; 49 stories 678' roof a few years out w/ .gov South Station re-do, Post Office relocation + track expansion...

5. Govt Center (oval) office tower 43 stories + tall mech screen ~647' tip... (approved)

6. Copley Place Tower 52 stories 625' roof (site prep)

7. Govt Center residential tower 45 stories 547' roof (site prep)

8. TD Garden Tower 1 (office) ~21 stories over the podium ~505' roof (podium construction 1-27-2016).

9. TD Garden Point 2 (resident tower) 45 stories 495' roof (podium construction 1-27-2016)

10. Garden Garage/Equity Residential 44 stories 485' roof (approved)

11. Avalon North Station/121 Nashua Street 38 stories 450' roof (cladding ~3-4 weeks)

12. Atlantic Wharf 32 stories 436' (2011)

13. 40 Trinity Place 33 stories 412' (pre-construction)

14. 380 Stewart Street/John Hancock Tower #3 26 stories 390' tip (approved).

15. 45 Province Street 31 Stories 367' (2009)

16. The Pierce Fenway 30 stories 367' (construction)

17. South Station #2 (office) 24 stories 342'

18. Govt Center #3 29 stories ~336' (approved ~2 years away)

19. 45 Stewart St/AVA Theatre District 29 stories 336' (2015)

20. South Station #3 (residential) 28 stories 336'

21. The Kensington Apartments 27 stories 299' (2013)

22. Radian 26 stories 291' (2014)

23. 157 Berkeley Street/Liberty Mutual 22 stories 290' (2013)

24. 30 Dalton St 24 stories 286' (cladding Jan 2016)

25. 99 Kneeland Street/1 Greenway Tower/Chinatown 21 stories 262 Feet (2015)

26. 1350 Boylston/Skanska Fenway 18 stories 223' (construction)

27. Northestern Univ Grandmarc Tower 17 stories 200 feet completed (2014)


stale;

1. Harbor Garage/Don Chiofaro/Prudential 56 stories BRA rendered guidelines for 600'/900,000. thus ending the 2 tower idea. Chiofaro/Pru team say they need 1.1~1.2M sq ft w/ single 600' tower to proceed. Harbor/city/state process is implacable.


here's the first render for what might become Boston's 5th tallest.

1 Bromfield St/Midwood Development 59 stories 735 feet....



 

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Downtown Crossing's One Bromfield: Is This the Year for the Giant Tower?



New plans call for approximately 700-foot spire

Plans to replace four low-rise buildings at Bromfield and Washington streets in busy, busy Downtown Crossing with a single tower stretch back to those prelapsarian days before the Great Recession. New York-based developer Midwood Investment & Development bought the parcels in the mid-2000s and set about with plans to construct a 28-story building with around 260 apartments and several floors of retail.

Said recession made quick work of those plans, but Midwood held on to the parcels. Now the company is back with a fresh idea that is just starting to wend its way through the city's approval processes. And it's a corker of an idea: a tower with 300 apartments and 119 condos, as well as two floors of retail and lobbies, stretching to 683 feet at its highest occupiable floor and to more than 700 feet when the mechanical whatnot are factored in.

Such scope would easily make what has been dubbed One Bromfield one of the five tallest buildings in Boston, in New England, really. Its height would rival nearby Downtown Crossing neighbor Millennium Tower, whose success surely inspired Midwood to try, try again.

Yet that particular spire, which reaches around 685 feet at its highest point and which is set to open this year, took a famously long while to get going. And One Bromfield has already been stop and go for nearly a decade. Stay tuned.

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For those interested, a ton of really cool renders of this new proposal can be found here in this presentation...

http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthority.org/getattachment/913012ef-029f-4338-ac15-e78f1f04c3d5

I'd copy and paste a few of them directly into this thread, but I don't really know how, or if that's even allowed, haha!

Also isn't the proposed height of this building 683ft? Why does the description say 735ft?
The 683' figure is for the highest occupied floor. For the mechanical penthouse + crown, the allowable envelope is 735'. Actual and final height is TBD.
 

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Praying that this one isn't cut down. Boston needs towers of this height; not necessarily much taller (yet), but if the city is eventually going to accommodate more people--which it should if wants to remain globally competitive--the bar of what constitutes "normal tallness" has to be raised to make room for as many ~100-200m towers as possible. Particularly considering how few plots will actually allow height, it's crucial to get it wherever we can.

And, within the context of the city, a design like this is borderline revolutionary.
 

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Im glad Boston is getting so many 200m+ but I wish it would get a supertall at some point.

Of the Big 12, 8 will have supertalls by 2020:

Atlanta
Chicago
Houston
Los Angeles
Miami
New York
Philadelphia
San Francisco

The only ones lacking will be Boston, Dallas, Detroit and Washington
 

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Well, we can say almost with certainty that DC won't be getting one. Detroit might, by some miracle, at the end of our lifetimes. Dallas will probably depend on whether or not the city can sufficiently decouple its economy from the energy industry.

Boston, however, has the present demand for one. We all know it's just a matter of getting all the relevant parties to agree to a supertall, and that's where more skyscrapers of varying height will help, by getting stakeholders to see the positive role that they can play in the city's overall development. Once people adjust to more 200m+ skyscrapers, it'll just be that much easier to push a supertall through.
 
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