Brisbane Infastructure Boom, $12 billion U/C

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TOCC

Discussion Starter · May 20, 2008 (Edited)

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Airport Link $4.7 billion
The largest road and tunnel project in Australia, it includes a 6.7km tunnel running 40 to 50 metres underground from Bowen Hills to the airport roundabout.

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Northern Busway(part of the above project)
A 3km two-lane, two-way busway between Constitution Road, Windsor, and Sadlier Street, Kedron, without traffic lights, tunnel and above ground

Boggo Road Busway/Eastern Busway $400million
1.5 km long Busway with 2 new busway stations connecting the SE Busway to UQ

North-South Bypass Tunnel $3.2 billion
Overall the North-South Bypass Tunnel is 6.8km in length and includes dual, twin-lane tunnels, approximately 4.8km in length.

Gateway Upgrade/Gateway Bridge Duplication $1.8 billion
-Construction of a second Gateway Bridge.
-Upgrade of 20 kilometres of the Gateway Motorway
-Construction of a new Gateway Motorway deviation, providing a more direct access to Brisbane Airport

Brisbane Airport Parallel Runway Project $1 billion

Brisbane Airport Internatioal Terminal Expansion $340 million
BAC commenced a $340 million upgrade and expansion of the International Terminal in 2006 to cater for this growth, with works at the Terminal expected to be complete towards the end of 2008.

Brisbane Airport Domestic Terminal Expansion $350million
Upgrading the aiport to a two story Pavillion, with departures on one level and arrivals on another level

Brisbane Airpot Northern Access Road Project$200 million
BAC-funded, five kilometre, multi-lane road will provide Airport users and tenants with a second major access route to the terminals and on-Airport businesses.

Hale St Bridge $241
Another vehicle bridge across the Brisbane River at South Brisbane

Tank St Bridge 80million?
Pedestrian link across the Brisbane River

Port of Brisbane $1billion?
POB is reclaiming land which will give it a extra 1.8kms of berths

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TOCC

Discussion Starter · #2 · May 20, 2008 (Edited)

The Houghton Highway Duplication Project $315million
The Houghton Highway Duplication Project includes the construction of a new 2.7km long bridge linking Brighton to Clontarf across Bramble Bay. First coastal bridge in Australia capable of withstanding a one-in-2000-year storm event.

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Svartmetall

· #3 · May 20, 2008

BroadGauge said:
**Yay** at all the rail projects in the above (not).

A lot of massive road projects, and some inner city busway projects. Boo hoo. Brisbane should be less bus-focused. How about 15minute rail services, at minimum, for a start?

Goodness me, BG. Could this be one of the times that I actually agree with you?!

I, too, am sceptical about the benefits of BRT in the long run. I'm much more of a fan of Stadtbahn/light rail/premetro systems as well as heavy rail rather than buses based upon fossil fuels.

In saying that, the Brisbane Airport expansion looks pretty amazing! I liked Brissy Airport when I last used it, one of the best in all of my travels (other than airtrain accessibility, running frequency and price).

Maroon Grown

· #4 · May 20, 2008

^^ TOCC missed all the rail projects. here they are (not sure of costs though)

Coomera to Helensvale Duplication U/C
Robina to Varsity Lakes Extention with a TOD village U/C
Varsity Lakes to Coolangatta Airport Extension (in planning)
New Darra to Springfield Line (planning almost complete)
Springfield to Ipswich Loop Line (in planning)
Corinda to Darra Triplication U/C (actually quad track due to extra freight line)
Darra to Redbank Triplication (in planning)
Salisbury to Kuraby Triplication (completed)
Kuraby to Kingston Triplication (in planning)
Mitchelton to Keperra Duplication (completed)
Keperra to Ferny Grove Duplication (in planning)
Caboolture to Beerburrum Duplication U/C
Beerburrum to Landsborough (planning near complete)
Landsborough to Nambour Duplication & corridor straightening (in planning)
New Beerwah to Maroochydore Line (in planning)
New Petrie to Redcliffe Line (in planning)
Indooroopilly Station Major Upgrade U/C
Brunswick Street Station Major Upgrade U/C
Inner City Rail Capacity Study (Brisbane CBD underground $2B) in planning

Don't say we're too bus centric. clearly we have a lot of rail projects too.

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bennyboy777

· #5 · May 20, 2008

It's sad that governments are still committed to spending large amounts on road projects that rely on the ever scarce commodity of oil that is now worth an arm and a leg. It really sums up our car dependent society.:bash: We need to knock some sense into these politicians that this is not the way to go in the 21st century, then again, most people in Australia probably support road projects and are anti PT.

hno:

Imagine the miracles that could happen if we spent the same amount of money on Public Transport. I think Brisbane should be spending more on heavy rail and not buses.

Cruise

· #6 · May 20, 2008

Svartmetall said:
Goodness me, BG. Could this be one of the times that I actually agree with you?!

I, too, am sceptical about the benefits of BRT in the long run. I'm much more of a fan of Stadtbahn/light rail/premetro systems as well as heavy rail rather than buses based upon fossil fuels.

yeah they need to replace their bus ways with O-Bahns!!! (they open up the opportunity of trolley buses, but still think trolley buses are a dumb idea)

crazyknightsfan

· #7 · May 20, 2008

I love your frank assessment of every city's inept PT, BG. :banana:

TOCC

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 20, 2008

Maroon Grown said:
^^ TOCC missed all the rail projects. here they are (not sure of costs though)

Coomera to Helensvale Duplication U/C
Robina to Varsity Lakes Extention with a TOD village U/C
Varsity Lakes to Coolangatta Airport Extension (in planning)
New Darra to Springfield Line (planning almost complete)
Springfield to Ipswich Loop Line (in planning)
Corinda to Darra Triplication U/C (actually quad track due to extra freight line)
Darra to Redbank Triplication (in planning)
Salisbury to Kuraby Triplication (completed)
Kuraby to Kingston Triplication (in planning)
Mitchelton to Keperra Duplication (completed)
Keperra to Ferny Grove Duplication (in planning)
Caboolture to Beerburrum Duplication U/C
Beerburrum to Landsborough (planning near complete)
Landsborough to Nambour Duplication & corridor straightening (in planning)
New Beerwah to Maroochydore Line (in planning)
New Petrie to Redcliffe Line (in planning)
Indooroopilly Station Major Upgrade U/C
Brunswick Street Station Major Upgrade U/C
Inner City Rail Capacity Study (Brisbane CBD underground $2B) in planning

Don't say we're too bus centric. clearly we have a lot of rail projects too.

well i was only going to put the significant projects in Brisbane that are either about to start or are UC.

by significan i mean $200million plus or ones like the Tank St Bridge which will have a significant visual impact.

Maroon Grown

· #9 · May 20, 2008

BroadGauge said:
Mostly fairly minor upgrades to short sections of track or things that should have been done long ago. Equivelent to local council road upgrades. Only a couple of major projects. Look at all the road projects TOCC posted :bash: hno:

Still nothing to address Brisbane's pathetic rail frequencies and very slow lines, in need of two tier services - 30minutely off-peak ain't gonna cut it. Or what about the lack of feeder buses to pretty much anywhere in the BCC area?

Yes, Brisbane is very much a bus city.

Everything comes down to $$$$$$$. thats why projects get broken down into stages. surely you can understand that.

projects in planning do count because at least they are on the radar. notice i never mentioned an extension to samford. everyone wants it, but its not a project.

yes, the 30min freqs are pretty crap and i love for them to increase to 15min. a simple idea of splitting 6 car sets to 3 apparently seems to logistically hard for QR. maybe things will change with the new TTA. at least stations on multiple lines have coordinated timetables where trains comes every 15min instead of all at once every 30.

as you can see, there is a lot of money being invested into rail over a number of years. im not saying that brisbane isnt more bus based but at least the rail money is there.

beastjim

· #10 · May 20, 2008

Darra to Richlands of the Springfield Line is currently under construction. Only reason they aren't doing it all at once is because of financial constraints. Rail is still a poor cousin to roads here in Queensland but we seem to be doing better at expanding our network then any other state (bar maybe Victoria only because I have no idea if anything is happening down there). Also some of the "in planning" items are at very different stages of planning. Others are still around feasibility stages and other very early stages (like Landsborough to Nambour Duplication and Springfield to Ipswich - indeed that ones still a "Quality Public Transport Route") However others are very much detailed designs that will probably go to tender soon, in this list would be the extension of the Gold Coast line further south to whatever the next point is and the Beerburrum to Landsborough upgrade. So things are happening just alot slower for Rail then Road it seems.
On a side note $2 Billion is going to be nowhere near enough for an underground railway that the inner city capacity study will be examining.

Another very important project although technically not Brisbane; is the Gold Coast "Quality Public Transport" corridor. I think its got a separate thread where people have attacked the advantages and disadvantages of each style. But we wait and wonder what will happen.

That said there are still improvements that could be made tomorrow if the right political will was there. Which is the things that Broad Guage mentioned like 15 min off peak frequencies and two tiered services. QR Citytrain would need a substanial increase in drivers to cope with the extra services as they all struggle especially around "flu season" and when they all magically call in sick on the same day that a union rep is claiming they aren't paid enough. Actually if they proposed to remove the guard I could see alot of sickies happening.

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BrizzyChris

· #11 · May 20, 2008

This thread seems to be "Let's hear BG whinge about every project in Qld".

TOCC

Discussion Starter · #12 · May 20, 2008

BroadGauge said:
Even WA? Mandurah? Clarkson? Has Brisbane expanded it's network with 85km of new double track in the last 3 years?

no but its being doing a lot of duplications and triplications, which is realistically a good base to start extending a network from.

but regardless, if you want to whinge about there not being enough rail, then start your own friggin thread and leave this one to the projects which are actually going ahead.

TOCC

Discussion Starter · #13 · May 20, 2008

BroadGauge said:
Wrong.

"BG tells the blunt truth about rail investment in Queensland" :lol:

mate you hijacked the thread right from the start, at no point did i even mention rail investment.

I think Brizzychris was right on this one

JayT

· #14 · May 20, 2008

Wow talk about a boom in transport.

Guys lay off Broadgauge. I pity him as it must be hard to accept all this development in Queensland, especially when your not part of it.

J

brisbanite

· #15 · May 21, 2008

Maroon Grown said:
^^ TOCC missed all the rail projects. here they are (not sure of costs though)

Coomera to Helensvale Duplication U/C
Robina to Varsity Lakes Extention with a TOD village U/C
Varsity Lakes to Coolangatta Airport Extension (in planning)
New Darra to Springfield Line (planning almost complete)
Springfield to Ipswich Loop Line (in planning)
Corinda to Darra Triplication U/C (actually quad track due to extra freight line)
Darra to Redbank Triplication (in planning)
Salisbury to Kuraby Triplication (completed)
Kuraby to Kingston Triplication (in planning)
Mitchelton to Keperra Duplication (completed)
Keperra to Ferny Grove Duplication (in planning)
Caboolture to Beerburrum Duplication U/C
Beerburrum to Landsborough (planning near complete)
Landsborough to Nambour Duplication & corridor straightening (in planning)
New Beerwah to Maroochydore Line (in planning)
New Petrie to Redcliffe Line (in planning)
Indooroopilly Station Major Upgrade U/C
Brunswick Street Station Major Upgrade U/C
Inner City Rail Capacity Study (Brisbane CBD underground $2B) in planning

Don't say we're too bus centric. clearly we have a lot of rail projects too.

I have to agree with Broadguage that in planning means nothing. The Kippa Ring Line has been in planning for 30 odd years. I can see that a lot of these major projects such as the Maroochydore line, the Springfield to Ipswich line and the Inner City Rail Capacity study being put on the backburner and shuffled back due to the large amount of money being spent on these road infrastructure projects.

Macca-GC

· #16 · May 21, 2008

BroadGauge said:
Don't hold your breath on this one being built for a while. Why not do Robina-Coolangatta in the one go?

Why not do it at the same time as Corinda to Darra?

We can't really afford to do all these huge projects all in one go. Slight monetary constraints

Duplication of about 3km to benefit passengers at one station primarily - yeah, massively important.

Well you do realise that Ferny Grove is one of the busiest stations in the network. Like, it goes: Central, Roma St, Brunswick Street, South Brisbane, Vulture Street, Indooroopilly, Ferny Grove.
Ferny Grove is a very important station, and believe me, the duplication is done right down to Mitchelton, the Ferny Grove line will be the first to get 15 minute frequencies

Upgrades of individual stations - hardly benefits the network as a whole.

Actually they are important. Two of the busiest stations around. Helps with encouraging PT usage and passenger flow

Macca-GC

· #17 · May 21, 2008

BroadGauge said:
The Parramatta Rail Link was planned and funded when it was canceled - until it's actually under construction, don't believe its going ahead.

Do what RailCorp did with CityRail in 2005 - big recruitment drive to fill the shortfalls.

The difference: NSW had Bob Carr. Enough said.

Also, we've been doing huge recruitment drives for train and bus drivers for a couple of years now. BCC buses have ads on the inside, as do some Surfside ones. There are tv and radio ads. what happens is that we run out, we get more, increase services, run out. It's just a cycle.

muntted

· #18 · May 21, 2008

I have to agree with broadgauge, the QLD and Bris gov are too road centric, the TTA is too bus centric.

Bullswool

· #19 · May 21, 2008

BroadGauge said:
Even WA? Mandurah? Clarkson? Has Brisbane expanded it's network with 85km of new double track in the last 3 years?

Woo go us! :banana:

beastjim

· #20 · May 21, 2008

BroadGauge said:
Even WA? Mandurah? Clarkson? Has Brisbane expanded it's network with 85km of new double track in the last 3 years?

Mmmm well I was thinking currently has a digger in the ground and a machine putting done some steel on some concrete.

The Parramatta Rail Link was planned and funded when it was canceled - until it's actually under construction, don't believe its going ahead.

Sometimes something is very wishful, and no matter how long you draw that line on the map its never going to convince someone to actually build it. Maybe I just believe that things will eventually get done, timelines may not be kept but when its in the plans and the statutory documents like the regional plan then I have some faith the Qld Government will deliver it eventually. NSW on the other hand, well they change there minds about every 6 months and then theres Costa. But sometimes you can good faith especially when freight is involved like the Beerburrum - Landsborough Duplication.

Do what RailCorp did with CityRail in 2005 - big recruitment drive to fill the shortfalls.

QR had a big driver recruitment drive late last year/early this year. Failpage became over run with new trainees it seemed. However all our recruitment focuses on places where the coal comes from. Even with that drive there will be driver shortages come the middle of winter. Unlike CityRail who went so over board that driver shortages can not be a problem.

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