[perheps]

Put it on ignore to leatherface. It's a blood translated bot and terrific halloween

I mean people would be saying and i said shut up because they're think 90 seconds wrong.
Also people could be enough is enough traffic jam they're want motorway one days.

 

[KJBrissy]

Induced demands is not debunked in the slightest. Not even close.

Oh, and it's also a thing for other modes as well. Increased PT frequency induces PT trips. A connected and separated cycle network indices cycle trips. Wider roads induces car trips.

 

[BrizzyChris]

Induced demand is overrated and is debunked by numerous studies. The vast majority of increased traffic to new roadways is diverted traffic from other roads ie. Traffic diverts from other roads onto newly improved roads. It's not 'new' traffic at such, or from other modes like PT.

What you actually advocate is forcing people onto PT by restricting or reducing road capacity in a growing population scenario. That's actually inducing demand.

That's just a straight out lie regarding induced demand. It's a proven fact that increased road capacity encourages further demand by road users.

 

[brianc68]

That's just a straight out lie regarding induced demand. It's a proven fact that increased road capacity encourages further demand by road users.

It's a theory not a proven fact.

I really don't appreciate being called a liar.

Check your definitions. Even the theory of supply and demand, which induced demand is based on, is still a THEORY. It's even called the theory of supply and demand. The clue is in the name.

So please educate yourself before making incorrect accusations.

BTW I have an economics degree so I'm well aware of what theories are.

 

[KJBrissy]

You said it was debunk, you didn't say it was a theory.

Gravity is also a theory.

 

[brianc68]

Induced demands is not debunked in the slightest. Not even close.

Oh, and it's also a thing for other modes as well. Increased PT frequency induces PT trips. A connected and separated cycle network indices cycle trips. Wider roads induces car trips.

You clearly only read one side of the debate on this theory.

 

[KJBrissy]

The Katy Freeway is a great case study. It was widened to be the widest freeway in the world, and travel times increased.

 

[brianc68]

You said it was debunk, you didn't say it was a theory.

Gravity is also a theory.

I said it was 'debunked by numerous studies' which it has been. Other studies support it.

 

[hornetfig]

The Katy Freeway is a great case study. It was widened to be the widest freeway in the world, and travel times increased.

Houston is a basket case generally. Failures at every level of government across swathes of departments.

 

[Coneslammer]

Building a hospital also encourages people to visit that hospital and yet 'induced demand' is a stupid argument against building hospitals.

Voters want more road space, the government is delivering, what's the problem.

 

[KJBrissy]

I never said induced demand was always bad. Heck, I even said induced demand is a thing for active and public transport also.

Of course induced demand is a stupid argument against building hospitals, I would argue however that's more latent demand than induced demand. Very different concepts.

 

[RAN-AWD]

Building a hospital also encourages people to visit that hospital and yet 'induced demand' is a stupid argument against building hospitals.

Voters want more road space, the government is delivering, what's the problem.

Because there are more efficient ways to move people.
Do you know a more efficient way to treat people's medical conditions. No!

 

[verbatim9]

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[BrizzyChris]

I said it was 'debunked by numerous studies' which it has been. Other studies support it.

Been on the ICB lately? Widened by Quirk's car-centric BCC as a "congestion busting" solution...and it's only gotten worse in the last 12 months.

 

[bribri]

Been on the ICB lately? Widened by Quirk's car-centric BCC as a "congestion busting" solution...and it's only gotten worse in the last 12 months.

I drive the ICB pretty often and find it’s vastly improved since the upgrade.

 

[verbatim9]

Lots of pre Christmas activity at the long awaited interaction upgrade on the corner of Victoria and Montague Road West End.

 

[verbatim9]

 

[joninbrisbane]

To me it seems like a mistake to intall traffic lights on Moggill Road at Stamford Parade.

 

[KJBrissy]

Edit: 🤦‍♂️

 

[sneakey pete]

only issue i can see is that people going westbound onto moggile from coonan street might not have a lot of sight range to see oncoming traffic due to the overpass embankment, meaning flow wouldn't be great (eg everyone can't see until the last carspot or 2 so would be slowing down a lot regardless) but i can see why they wouldnt want to move it to close to the next interesction either